mtcookson

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i would never, ever, ever hit the rev limiter on our cars. the rev limiter on these cars is a fuel cut limiter. whenever i hit the rev limiter (which of course is on accident) the knock reading on the s-afc goes pretty high. not good at all.

mtcookson

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i think my torque curve is worse...



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ok, ok... my intake pipe popped off so we put it back on and then tried it again but then the other coupler somehow broke so i couldn't get any good numbers. this was also with that pos broke turbo. should be a bit better now.

this was on a mustang dyno so i guess the numbers are supposed to be a bit higher.

Chris91SE

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wow can i have that 10 mins of my life back?

we all know i have the fastest 3rd gen on here so everyone shaddup already

2k3TitaniumSe

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Funny wheels! IMHO, I think the intyerior doesn't seem very nice also. Bad color choice. Sorry for these opinions but I your Max needs a little more work.

Matt93SE

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depends on the clutch, track, tires, and how I feel like driving.
I got my best times by launching at 5k and slipping the clutch. but it also ruined the throwout bearing in 5 launches at the track.

just play with it and develop your own style for launching. all of the typing and instructions in the world wont' do any good unless you have time in the seat to practice.

Bryan H

no roof = no sunroof.
i posted the mods that came to mind first, the secret sauce, is well, secret sauce.
i shifted at 6400 on all my passes {after countless hours of dyno time}

the major mods i did were the weight savings, and well i suck as a drive {bwhahahaahah ok maybe not}
i dropped half a second by adjusting myself as a driver <---the best mod you can do to a car

jwmaxse

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Bryan, what do you think is the next best mod to do after you have done the basic bolt-ons such as y-pipe, CAI, UDP, high flow cat, better clutch, lightened flywheel, 5* timing advance? What kind of stuff did you do to cut down on weight? What size and kind of wheels/tires did you run? Also, maybe you should start a "Bryan H" thread so people can see some of this stuff without having to look into this dying thread. BTW-I can't believe how long this thread has gone on.

Bryan H

i would port the tb and port match in the intake manifold
dyno proven {for me at least} at 6 hp and 13 ft lbs

when i drag raced i ran the stock size tires in front and 17's in the rear, why? not a clue why i did it, but never the less i did, im sure i could have gone faster with out the 17's and out the stockers back on

weight savings included, no door braces {crash bars} front and rear bummper supports were severely modded, gutted trunk, very little sound deading, thats a basic run down

jwmaxse

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I'll have to check into doing that. So 6 and 13 for both of them together huh? Sounds like it was worth while. How much did it cost you?

Bryan H

didn't cost me a dime to do it, i had access to a die grinder and a measureing device at the time, so i went to town.
there is a huge thread about this done last year on how i ported mine, and on tips i gave to people to do it.
6 and 13 on my car, it might be more might be less on yours, but there is hp to be had

Aaron92SE

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I have a good write up and lots of pics on how I did mine and what I recommend.

This is my main webpage:

http://www.littlebabywebs.com/maxima/maximalbw.html

There is a link on there entitled "Ported throttle body and matched intake WITH porting instructions". More specifically, here's the link:

http://www.littlebabywebs.com/maxima/tb/tbpage.htm

Hope this helps some people. That's why I made it.

mtcookson

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everytime i look at those picture it makes me wish the vg didn't have the crappy dual butterfly setup. maybe i should start looking into the pathfinder intake manifold and see if i can make that thing fit.

Aaron92SE

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Yeah, it makes it a little more difficult to port. Plus I believe you have a water jacket in that TB. So don't port too much.

mtcookson

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i disconnected the water from the water jacket so i wonder if i can fill the jacket with something and then port the crap out it. i may try that with my spare tb if i can find something to fill it with.

jwmaxse

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Yeah, thanks aaron, I have seen that and when I'm ready to do it I'll definitely need it. I misunderstood Bryan, I though he was saying he portmatched the TB part of the manifold and the lower part or something. Just portmatching the TB and the where it connects to the manifold and getting 6 and 13 is incredible. I'm at work and I have 8 hours to look through old threads so I'll look for yours Bryan. BTW Bryan, did you ever compare 1/4 mile times using your stockies on the front and then using your 17's on the front? I'm getting rid of my 17's and getting 16" Rotas that are 13.5 a piece.

I found a thread with some of Bryan's mods BTW in case anyone is interested: https://maxima.org/forums/west-coast/1848-today-2wks-until-sf-meet-maybe.html

Bryan H

someone did some diggin!

17's vs 15's
14.3 on 15's
14.6 on 17's {50 lbs with tires each}

thats only a small portion of the mods i had
add the others i posted on here earlier, plus the weight savings, and the secret sauce {might have to do a search to find that one}

Aaron92SE

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Stock 15's should weigh around 38lbs. So your 17s will slow you down. 2 or 3 tenths sounds right too.

Bryan H

i think they were lighter then that, then again 90% of the tread was gone

bonzelite

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bryan, you have some very not-commonly-done approaches to horsepower. very hardcore.

Bryan H

i used to sit for hours on end looking at the motor and playing with things on it to see what affect it would have on how it ran. what worked and what didn't. playing with the powervalve, timing, blah blah blah, and finally came up with the combo of mods that worked good for what was available on the market at that time.
and some things that were not.

weight is the enemy of every car.
power to weight blah blah, so on and so forth.
my 76 280 had 70 hp stock, now it has 320. and is going on a diet, same hp rating {off bottle} just faster!

i learned more by tinkering on my own then reading crap on the net, when i foudn this site i was already running 14.8's 14.7's and just got faster through trial and error

jwmaxse

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Yeah, I did a little digging at work today, I can look and talk at the same time. 3/10 difference with the different tires huh? Sound's like it will definitely be worth it for me to go with the 16" rota's instead of my lovely 17's. Masssmail is trying to get me to port the TB soon, I'm motivated with the numbers you showed earlier bryan. How much should I take off? I'll keep searching for your instructions, and keep aarons.

Bryan H

hmmm, 71 mm is pretty big as it is, i could port it for ya for a small fee if you want to send it to me, thats if you have a spare one to send. then you can port match the intake manifold yerself {easiest part}

jwmaxse

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Let me get back to you on that one Bryan, and thanks for the help. I'm going to be doing a KS redo soon so it would be a good time to do the intake manifold while it's already off the car. PM me or post on here how much you'de charge for the throttle body. I think ultimately I may turbo this thing. Another fellow .org member has a little experience and I think it would be worth it. You can only bolt so much stuff on the thing before you run out of ideas. And in case someone else reads this, this is not an official announcement that I'm turboing my VE, I don't want to get flamed for making claims and not following through with them.

Aaron92SE

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Run out of ideas? It's hard to run out of all motor ideas. It's all about what you're willing to spend. I have a crap load of ideas for all motor stuff. Eventually, turbo will appear to be cheaper. But, I'm going with nitrous since I'm a track *****.

Scope

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Well this summer before I take my car to get the VB mod so I can get a harder shift. Best part is that it only costs 380 installed. After that comes the tranny cooler and possibly a turbo (Next years mod)

Kyle

What is the general cost to buy and install a tranny cooler?

DA-MAX

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the run about $45...install is pretty simple,you can do it yourself(mount cooler, remove old hoses, run new hoses from tranny to cooler and back) but if you get someone to do it look at paying probably an hour worth of labor

Kyle

Thanks, if it is that easy and cheap i could probably do it next weekend.

jwmaxse

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What all motor ideas are you talking about? How much HP do you think you could get with all motor, would it be usable HP?

Bryan H

like i told arron, about 75 for the intake manifold and tb, you pay shippin.
as far as usable hp from a v6, how much do you want?

jwmaxse

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N/A? I did see a N/A 3000 v6 motor like ours that was putting out 300 hp, that would be nice, but the price isn't. Forget the website but it was like $6,000 for the motor. I might be willing to turbo in the future so if I did that I'd expect at least 300-350 from that if possible.

89maxSE

http://www.hekimianracing.com/
Almost $9k lol. Would be pretty cool to have though. If I win the lottery, I'm getting it

Chris91SE

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if you win the lottery i can guarantee you're not buying a motor for your 89 maxima

jaguax

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True, but he'll probably buy one for every member of this board

Aaron92SE

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There's a lot of all motor ideas. A motor is a motor. You can do 10.5 compression pistons, which might help. Good cams. Good ECU tuning. More weight reduction. Variable intake for my auto. Intake spacers. Headwork. Headers. There's a lot of stuff I haven't done yet. Oh yeah, more weight reduction.

89maxSE

Why not buy one for my 89? Its still drives and all that stuff

mtcookson

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hmm... something i just thought of. i think i'd much rather go turbo than n/a. take a look at the torque number on the nissan engine. its only at 240 ft. lb. of torque at 5500 rpm. going with a turbo would make that torque number a crap load higher.

Spipedong90

I'd like to drop that sucker into a Z31 and smoke some people.