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Old 05-27-2004 | 03:10 PM
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Electric superchargers on a ve

i am possibly getting a VE 5spd, and im going to supercharge it most likely:

i came across this
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/products.htm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

what is the best way to do this? also what is the estimated cost, and gains?
Old 05-27-2004 | 03:16 PM
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go ahead and spend your money on one but no one has ever shown dyno proven gains. if anything it will restrict air flow at high rpms and you will lose HP

best bet is to buck up and go turbo
Old 05-27-2004 | 03:36 PM
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oh knoes



lets just say with what that flows, well you might make more power idling
Old 05-27-2004 | 03:55 PM
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"go ahead and spend your money on one but no one has ever shown dyno proven gains. "

C'mon lets be a little open minded about this at least. I've seen a 3000gt dyno with the one from the above link and the gains that the company guaranteed were there. An .org member from a few years back had one too and he said it worked. Check out this one that turbomagazine tested out, a 93 whp gain on an altima:
http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight/
But I agree, that ebay one looks like a scam.

I did find a few dyno's too, here is one on an MR2:
http://gawlowski.com/mr2/mr2_dyno.html

I'm not saying I would go out and buy one though. The E-ram is only supposed to be good for 3-5% gains and thats less than 10 whp. If you are just buying a stock maxima, get an underdrive pulley, lightened flywheel, y-pipe, cold air intake, and then consider the E-ram.
Old 05-27-2004 | 04:07 PM
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That one in your link Rosa, while it *might* work, it is not true to a SC.

1. it draws too much freakin power
2. those batterys arent meant to be drained all the way then recharged, it would take the altenator quite awhile to do so aswell, and you drastically shorten the battery life. That makes it non cost effective
3. you only get to use the "supercharger" for as long as the batterys last, so uhhh yeah, lol.
4. Nitrous is a cheaper solution
Old 05-27-2004 | 04:27 PM
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It does work, there's a dyno right on the page. If you read through the Q&A's it talks a bit about the battery charging and alternator issues. You're right though, it is more like nitrous than anything else, and I'd rather just get nitrous, simpler, easier to install, etc.

I'm not saying I would pay for either of those above, but there are electric "superchargers" or "turbochargers" or whatever you would conisider them, and they do actually work, that's all I was saying.
Old 05-27-2004 | 04:44 PM
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the charger only comes on at high rpms. its not on all the time. so when your pushing your max it kicks on at the top of each gear from what i understand. the max im looking at has:

Stillen HI-FLOW Intake
FRANKENCAR Mid-Pipe (RED)
ASP Under Drive Pulley
Warpspeed Performance SS Y-Pipe
Carsound Catalytic Converter
Greddy SP Exhaust System
AASCO Flywheel
ACT HDMM Clutch Kit
Stillen Short Throw Shifter
BlehmCo Ground Strap Kit

i think its ready!
Old 05-27-2004 | 04:45 PM
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that electric supercharger that would actually work is too expensive to even be worth anything. for that price you could do you own turbo setup.

the e-ram would work but wouldn't give you much hp. any other electric "superchargers" are scams like the one in the bay auction. you could make money thought by buying one of the scam s/c's. when the thing falls apart and shoots pieces of whatever in the engine you can sue the person who sold it to you and get a bunch of money back :
Old 05-27-2004 | 05:13 PM
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you could make money thought by buying one of the scam s/c's. when the thing falls apart and shoots pieces of whatever in the engine you can sue the person who sold it to you and get a bunch of money back :
Yeah, that would really suck!

I've actually looked into the E-ram and I would consider it, but it's only like 5-8 hp if it does what they guarantee. It's up to you dnas420 if you think it is worth the money. I might consider it too if I was spending the dough for an already tricked out VE that already had all the bolt-ons available for it. You might want to consider an intake manifold spacer too, port the TB and manifold, and what about the suspension? If you do get the E-ram, let us know how it works and try to get on a dyno!
Old 05-27-2004 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dnas420
the charger only comes on at high rpms. its not on all the time. so when your pushing your max it kicks on at the top of each gear from what i understand. the max im looking at has:

Stillen HI-FLOW Intake
FRANKENCAR Mid-Pipe (RED)
ASP Under Drive Pulley
Warpspeed Performance SS Y-Pipe
Carsound Catalytic Converter
Greddy SP Exhaust System
AASCO Flywheel
ACT HDMM Clutch Kit
Stillen Short Throw Shifter
BlehmCo Ground Strap Kit

i think its ready!

it wouldnt happen to be white and reside in NY would it? Sounds just like Diego's.

That would be a nice one to have...I wish I could get it.
Old 05-27-2004 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by awsm66
it wouldnt happen to be white and reside in NY would it? Sounds just like Diego's.

That would be a nice one to have...I wish I could get it.
it is Diego's lol

I'm showing Diego this thread, maybe he wont sell his car then
Old 05-27-2004 | 07:11 PM
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noooooooooooooooooooooooo dnas i wanted dtas!
Old 05-27-2004 | 08:37 PM
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no its not diegos, its someone elses.
Old 05-28-2004 | 05:32 AM
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here was the companies reply

Hello Dennis,

Thank you for your interest in the e-RAM Electric Supercharger.

We have seen good results with the e-RAM on this series of Maxima. You
should get around 10hp gain from the addition of the e-RAM-INLINE-3-3 placed
between the flow-sensor and the Stillen intake tube. The additional length
will extend your stillen cone filter close to the wall of the engine bay
behind the battery.

We do have one customer with your generation Nissan Maxima who ran G-Tech
tests and provided us with a testimonial. It is located on our web-site at:
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/...onials.htm#two

As far as this or mechanically drive supercharger.... It's all about
dollars per hp and your budget. We designed the e-RAM as a relatively
inexpensive way to get mild 5% hp gains with a true bolt-on device that
requires no modification of your engine, intake, ECU or fuel system. We
also made sure it required no maintenance, and would be as simple as an
intake tube to install.

Superchargers generate much more hp, but come at a high cost, and require a
large amount of additional modifications to assure proper gains and
relatively trouble-free operation over the long haul.

Regardless of your decision, the e-RAM will continue to provide gains, even
when attached to the intake of a supercharger system (just not at the top
end, as the max boost is regulated by the supercharger system).

Hope this helps -

Regards,

Mike Kibort
e-Racing Motorsports, LLC.
www.electricsupercharger.com/

"Prove it at the track"
Old 05-28-2004 | 06:06 AM
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factor of this thread is unmeasureable
Old 05-28-2004 | 07:17 AM
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Well IMHO, it would be sad to see this added to a nicely modded VE but you seem convinced it will work. So go ahead and buy it if you think it will work. In the end, it's your $.

I know I do what I want
Old 05-28-2004 | 11:28 AM
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i hear that resistor mod also works just as well...
Old 05-28-2004 | 08:04 PM
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i hear that resistor mod also works just as well...
Yeah right, it worked for me until I put my KS in today Seriously though, if you guys think that E-ram is bogus could you give us a reason why you think that instead of just bashing it? I've seen the dyno's and read up on it and even read posts from an .org member who used E-ram on a Maxima and they said it worked. I'd consider it just another bolt-on and I think it would be great if you would buy it and let us know the results. They're like $300, how many people on here have bought a cat-back exhaust for more than that and have seen little to no results? I think it's worth a try.
Old 05-28-2004 | 08:16 PM
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It needs to be called an A Ram.
Old 05-28-2004 | 08:18 PM
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So let us know how it works

Seriously. Proof is in the pudding. Which of those who thinks it will work is going to pull the trigger and buy one? Because you know 90% of the 3-4-5th gen guys don't do squat until they see someone else succeed/fail.

Originally Posted by rosamax
They're like $300, how many people on here have bought a cat-back exhaust for more than that and have seen little to no results? I think it's worth a try.
Old 05-28-2004 | 08:34 PM
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they may work and they may be proven... but 10 extra hp for 300 dollars doesn't seem very worth it.
Old 05-28-2004 | 08:59 PM
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Yeah, if one person bought it and it worked well I'm sure lots of others would jump on the bandwagon. I don't think 10hp for $300 is the best bang for your buck mod, but if its the only mod you havn't done to your car, why not? My excuse for not doing it is that I'd rather wait and see if I can get a turbo together, but we'll see
Old 05-28-2004 | 09:04 PM
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it would be much more worth it just to save your money to get a turbo setup later on.
Old 05-30-2004 | 08:27 AM
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For what the eram claims, a modest boost for a lot of cash I don't doubt that it works. The concept comes right out of thermodynamics, compress your energy source before burning it and you'l get more power out of it. If this system can actually force more air into your engine then yes, you will see some gains.

People knock this system because they think it's supposed to be some sort of cheap turbo knock off. Perhaps the name of this thing should be "inline compression system" and it would sell a little better. Take it for what it is, not for what it isn't, and don't knock it till you try it.
Old 05-30-2004 | 11:27 AM
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Well spoking adamis, i totaly agree with u..
And sure damn well i`m going to try it.....i`ll let u guys know what kind of respond did i get of that e-ram
Old 05-30-2004 | 11:33 AM
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At list someone needs to try it, that`s the only way to find out(ezy to say hard to do).....
Old 05-30-2004 | 12:03 PM
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Make sure to let us know!

BTW: nice max, I see you only have 65 posts, but have you been on the .org before?
Old 05-31-2004 | 08:44 AM
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Yes i have been on the org before, is just been a while that`s all
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What has happened to this place
Old 06-01-2004 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by KLoWnPR109
What has happened to this place

lolzomgomgaltezzasanybody?!!!1111////one
Old 06-01-2004 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by James92SE
lolzomgomgaltezzasanybody?!!!1111////one
keekles teeheeheehee
Old 06-01-2004 | 11:56 AM
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When someone buys one, post. This thread has offically gone to hell (usually when Shawn jumps in. )
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