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Old 07-30-2004 | 06:54 AM
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piggie cai design

so i remember awhile back some people here had an idea for a new style cai for the vg motor. i believe n34jz was kinda leading the idea. anyways, piggie made cai's of the same design eventually.
one of the issues that was discussed briefly was extending the maf wires and relocating the maf. the main concern was that by lengthening the wires the resistance the maf needed to register correct readings for the ecu would be disrupted. also people were saying that the maf had to be a certain distance from the throttle body or else (once again) the readings from the maf to the ecu would be different.
was this all bogus specualtion or not?
i'd like to either purchase a piggie cai or make one of the same design myself.
'antonthegrey' is selling one and i'm thinking of buying his. he says that it worked great and he didn't notice anything odd happening from the maf relocation...however i was looking for other opinions on this intake from people who arent selling one (no offence anton )
is it more effective than the place racing design?
will the maf be affected by being relocated?

it's too bad that piggie disappeared/ran away without getting more of his cai's out the org members. i'd really like to hear some more feedback.

thanks ppl
Old 07-30-2004 | 07:16 AM
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I don't see how lengthening the wires would affect anything as long as they are DECENT gauge wires and not old speaker wire from dad's 1972 8-track player.

the VG MAF is about what, 24"+/- or so from the TB right? so if distance is a concern, you've got plenty to work with
Old 07-30-2004 | 07:31 AM
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I don't see how lengthening the wires would affect anything as long as they are DECENT gauge wires and not old speaker wire from dad's 1972 8-track player.

the VG MAF is about what, 24"+/- or so from the TB right? so if distance is a concern, you've got plenty to work with
Old 07-30-2004 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DA-MAX
I don't see how lengthening the wires would affect anything as long as they are DECENT gauge wires and not old speaker wire from dad's 1972 8-track player.

the VG MAF is about what, 24"+/- or so from the TB right? so if distance is a concern, you've got plenty to work with
Wiring is definately important. I planned to use a decent quality 14 or 16 ga. wire anyways. I'll most likely try it because anything has to be better than the pr cai design. not to mention much less expensive than the pr cai.
Old 07-30-2004 | 02:08 PM
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i got the 93 accord cold air from ractice.. the tubes 5 inches before the maf and smaller after the maf..great power for only 50 bucks..
Old 07-30-2004 | 02:11 PM
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Please explain in technical terms why anything must be better than the pr cai?

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anything has to be better than the pr cai design. not to mention much less expensive than the pr cai.
Old 07-30-2004 | 02:28 PM
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from ractice..
it's spelled Ractive
Old 07-30-2004 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by -shock211-
I'll most likely try it because anything has to be better than the pr cai design.

because relocating a MAF is a better design...are you serious?
Old 07-30-2004 | 03:54 PM
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I extended the wires on my maf for the turbo setup and used some wires that came on an old wiring harness. I also used some shielded wires for the two wires that are shielded on the maf. I noticed no problems at all in doing this.
Old 07-30-2004 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by -shock211-
is it more effective than the place racing design?
pipes are shorter with only one bend instead of 3
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will the maf be affected by being relocated?
as long as you do a decent job extending the wires, you shouldn't have a problem
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i'd really like to hear some more feedback.
This is the only intake in this style that ever piggie sold. The other is on his car.
Old 07-30-2004 | 06:03 PM
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piggies a crook and a scam artist must be nice to steal from the org and run like a wuss. id love to stomp his head like a grape....
Old 07-30-2004 | 08:17 PM
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jeff,
for one the pr cai is quite expensive when you can get the accord design which is essentially the same for $50 off of ebay.
second, the piggie cai design should technically perform better because there's only one bend in the tubing. with less tubing for the air to flow through, it won't lose much veloctiy and the air will stay cooler because it doesn't sit in the engine bay as long.
third, it will give me more room in the engine bay to run ThAT CraZZYY TwiN TurBO SeTUp YO!

chris,
i'd prefer not to extend the maf wires but...i have 3 extras mafs kicking around and it seems that it will likely not affect anything so....who cares if it blows a maf.
Old 07-30-2004 | 10:41 PM
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You said and I quote"anything is better than the pr cai". Not just piggie's or etc..
Old 07-31-2004 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You said and I quote"anything is better than the pr cai". Not just piggie's or etc..
okay ya got me!
Old 07-31-2004 | 08:04 PM
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You think that was my purpose? I'd have a harder time shooting fish in a barrel with shotgun. Point was you made a pretty general statement that I wanted clarification on. There is enough bad information as it is in here.

Good luck with whatever intake you choose.

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okay ya got me!
Old 08-01-2004 | 01:09 AM
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Personally The PR Intake I Just put in w\ the AEM air bypass valve rocks!!!!
Old 08-01-2004 | 05:32 AM
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How much did that bypass valve run you for?
Old 08-01-2004 | 09:25 AM
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i Think it was $75 ish my girlfriend pick it up as a present for me. I was very happy!!!!
Old 08-02-2004 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You think that was my purpose? I'd have a harder time shooting fish in a barrel with shotgun. Point was you made a pretty general statement that I wanted clarification on. There is enough bad information as it is in here.

Good luck with whatever intake you choose.
fair enough.
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