Turn Signal Hell
#1
Turn Signal Hell
So my two front blinkers went out a week ago. So I replaced both bulbs... and that didn't work (even though they do light up... they just don't blink). Then i checked the fuse... still a no go. Is there a seperate electronic entity that makes these damn things blink? Any help would be most appreciated.
#3
Originally Posted by toddyfresh
there should be a signal relay ...
How about side/rear turn sig: do they blink?
First: push the hazard sw once. (Btw, this troubleshooting WORK takes 8 hours at stealer$hip; u owe me now 800$)
If no blink, DIY replace relay.
#4
First, make sure the emergency blinker switch is plugged in. If it isn't, the blinkers wont work. There is a flasher unit that controls the blinkers (not exactly a relay) that is behind the drivers side dash hidden to the right of the steering column (attached to a bracket that is about where your right knee would be).
#7
I have the same prob, exept only one (passenger side) blinker wont blink. The rest of them (3) work fine just not the pasendger front side one.
THINKING OF JUST SPLICING THE REAR CABLE AND ADDING A NEW WIRE, SO BACK AND FRONT BLINKERS ARE CONECTED DIRECTLY
THINKING OF JUST SPLICING THE REAR CABLE AND ADDING A NEW WIRE, SO BACK AND FRONT BLINKERS ARE CONECTED DIRECTLY
#9
Originally Posted by MarkofCain
Yeah the backs work fine... does that mean its not the relay under the drivers side dash?
I would think thats just about impossible
How about some more active and intelligent participation from your side then - read and answer the questions people post in particular the hazard switch thing
#10
If rear blinks work, hazard switch is ok (=not jammed in midpos).
(Yes, blink is not relay but 2-pole assy, contains bimetal spring which stwitches on/off due to heating effect)
Front blink complicated? Surely not,cannot be more simple. You have some serious shorts in your wirings. Reason for it should be verified... Cut off front blink wires, route new wires to the point where rear blinks wires are attached, solder in.
That schema is valid for your car... maybe ? not for you....
(Yes, blink is not relay but 2-pole assy, contains bimetal spring which stwitches on/off due to heating effect)
Front blink complicated? Surely not,cannot be more simple. You have some serious shorts in your wirings. Reason for it should be verified... Cut off front blink wires, route new wires to the point where rear blinks wires are attached, solder in.
That schema is valid for your car... maybe ? not for you....
#11
Well as I have learned when it comes to car trouble, nothing is impossible and I think we can all agree on that. The back turn signals work fine and when i put on the hazards they blink like they should.
Maybe (i am a newb... but i am getting better) i replaced the wrong bulbs. There are two different bulbs in each of the front signals, i replaced the ones that are closer towards the grill. Did i do the wrong ones perhaps?
And when i put my turn signal on the flashers on console do about double the speed as usual, so is that way it knows a full circuit (maybe the wrong word, but i am sure someone will correct me) isn't being completed.
Finally, if it isn't the bulb, do i really need to rewire? Are you sure it can't be some type of relay or fuse.
Maybe (i am a newb... but i am getting better) i replaced the wrong bulbs. There are two different bulbs in each of the front signals, i replaced the ones that are closer towards the grill. Did i do the wrong ones perhaps?
And when i put my turn signal on the flashers on console do about double the speed as usual, so is that way it knows a full circuit (maybe the wrong word, but i am sure someone will correct me) isn't being completed.
Finally, if it isn't the bulb, do i really need to rewire? Are you sure it can't be some type of relay or fuse.
#12
Originally Posted by MarkofCain
... nothing is impossible and ... Did i do the wrong ones perhaps? ... double the speed as usual, so is that way it knows a full circuit (maybe the wrong word, but i am sure someone will correct me) isn't being completed.
Double speed follows when load is taken off, front bulbs do not suck current via current heated bimetal blinksbox...
Dunno of the need to rewire. Its one option to cricumvent real problem.
The shown schema works for you, is real simple. Actual wires are mostly hidDen...
T here is only one turn sig bulb in front. I have them yellow... Open, check bulbs, voltage grounding. Lukiluki
#13
I must be really dense today but your last post simply does not correlate with either already posted facts or theory, and in particular
If they "light up" then the bulbs are ok and you shouldn't need to replace them - no?
The only thing possibly able to explain your situation may be that you are not telling the whole story especially since you mention
If it is a "custom" light job on your car where there are also some "parking lights" incorporated in the front orange indicator units, then it could be that the "ground" wire running to the indicator bulbs are somehow screwedup..............
and it may be the ground wires in either the front units or the rear light clusters or a general absence of decent grounding around the alternator or the battery
So I replaced both bulbs... and that didn't work (even though they do light up... they just don't blink).
The only thing possibly able to explain your situation may be that you are not telling the whole story especially since you mention
There are two different bulbs in each of the front signals, i replaced the ones that are closer towards the grill. Did i do the wrong ones perhaps?
and it may be the ground wires in either the front units or the rear light clusters or a general absence of decent grounding around the alternator or the battery
#15
Wow... i never thought so many people could just rip my problem apart and call me dumb and confused as fast as i could post my responses.... all i want is a solution... so only constructive answers are needed.... but for those who already clicking on to post a reply to this let me go ahead and explain in every detail what has been happening and what i have done.
I HAVE DONE NO MODS TO THE CAR!!! One day my left front (yes only the left front blinker went out), and the turn signal on my console began to blink at more than 2x the speed than usual. Then the next day the other front did the same thing. When I turned the signals on the light that comes on when you turn to provide more lighting for the turn comes on, and thats it. When I turn of my turn signal or my hazard lights the backs DO come on, just not the blinkers on the front. So I took off my corner lights and replaced the bulbs. There are apparently two on each, and i replaced the bulbs that were closer towards the grill of the car (by the recommendation of a mechanic at Pep Boys). That didn't fix anything. Thats where I am now. Its that simple. I may be new at this, but don't try to rip me a new one. If you need any more information of my predicament please don't be afriad to ask.
I HAVE DONE NO MODS TO THE CAR!!! One day my left front (yes only the left front blinker went out), and the turn signal on my console began to blink at more than 2x the speed than usual. Then the next day the other front did the same thing. When I turned the signals on the light that comes on when you turn to provide more lighting for the turn comes on, and thats it. When I turn of my turn signal or my hazard lights the backs DO come on, just not the blinkers on the front. So I took off my corner lights and replaced the bulbs. There are apparently two on each, and i replaced the bulbs that were closer towards the grill of the car (by the recommendation of a mechanic at Pep Boys). That didn't fix anything. Thats where I am now. Its that simple. I may be new at this, but don't try to rip me a new one. If you need any more information of my predicament please don't be afriad to ask.
#16
I guess you are refering to me in particular, but please understand that there is no simple answer with the description of your problem and the facts you posted so far ............. and the basic problem is statements like
????????????? is all I can say!
Those have a name, and if you want to get snotty over some simple clarification questions and comments in thus far a thread with extremely confusing and contradicting posts, then good luck!
Given that statement, can you confirm my previous question:
When you move the indicator stalk to indicate the need to turn left for example, its my understanding from your posts this far, that what happens is that the front indicator lights up but dont flash, and that your rear indicator as well as the indictor lamp in your dash starts flashing at about twice the speed you are used to .................... correct?
When I turned the signals on the light that comes on when you turn to provide more lighting for the turn comes on, and thats it.
but for those who already clicking on to post a reply to this let me go ahead and explain in every detail what has been happening and what i have done...........
and
so only constructive answers are needed
and
so only constructive answers are needed
Given that statement, can you confirm my previous question:
When you move the indicator stalk to indicate the need to turn left for example, its my understanding from your posts this far, that what happens is that the front indicator lights up but dont flash, and that your rear indicator as well as the indictor lamp in your dash starts flashing at about twice the speed you are used to .................... correct?
#17
Originally Posted by MarkofCain
Wow... i never thought so many people could just rip my problem apart and call me dumb ...
Getting a pic here FOR YOU needs always some work. Thereby I kindly ask you if the lamp you are referring is the yellow ONE I show up t here.
#18
Originally Posted by «§»Craig B«§»
There is a flasher unit that controls the blinkers (not exactly a relay) that is behind the drivers side dash hidden to the right of the steering column (attached to a bracket that is about where your right knee would be).
Originally Posted by Wiking
DIY replace relay.
Im thinking maybe you should find one of these at a junkyard or dealership and replace it and see if thats the problem. Assuming peoples words on here will fix your problem isnt going to happen. You have to do some testing. You started to by replacing the bulbs, but then you quit. i dont think people are being bungholes to you......
I might be wrong but, i thought the front bumper has the only blinking turn signals......the corner lights only house lights that stay on.......i cant remember. good luck
EDIT: you have to be talking about the corner lights and those dont blink. so your problem isnt a problem....
#19
EDIT: you have to be talking about the corner lights and those dont blink. so your problem isnt a problem....
#20
*Trumpet Sounds* Well I guess that is... I always thought thats what blinked. Now i know exactly which bulbs to replace. Ah and i thought i maybe had to do some rewiring. Well in a bit I will go get some replacements and see if it works... and if by chance it doesn't I will be back. TripleGMax you are my hero.
#21
Originally Posted by MarkofCain
*Trumpet Sounds* Well I guess that is... I always thought thats what blinked. Now i know exactly which bulbs to replace. Ah and i thought i maybe had to do some rewiring. Well in a bit I will go get some replacements and see if it works... and if by chance it doesn't I will be back. TripleGMax you are my hero.
#23
Ok this thread is officially finished... as it turns out i wasn't looking at the turn signal lights at all. So I went to autozone, got the bulbs and replaced them (took all of 10 minutes). And now they work beautifully and everything is back to normal. Thanks all who had constructive advice and Gmax.
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