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Old 04-25-2005, 09:06 AM
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track time for a 3rd gen turbo

Ok the best time was a 13.9 at 102.9mph
with a crappy 60ft of 2.4 with a full leather inter and 17 crome wheels
Not bad but the ecu is pulling timing way back.

I was using c16 (116 octane) to try to get the knock senor not to go so high but it did not help. The car is not detnating or any noise I can hear though.its something eles doing it.maybe heat from the down pipe as mine goes back over tranny on the fire wall.

P.S if some one can post the pics of time slip ill send them from my pic phone.
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Still in the 13's!

You can run mid 13's with that trap if you can get the traction. Good job man!
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send them to me and ill host at gregg@gregg-henry.com

nice job
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tripleGmax
send them to me and ill host at gregg@gregg-henry.com

nice job
ok will do it will be about 6:00pm or so when I get off
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Old 04-25-2005, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by James92SE
You can run mid 13's with that trap if you can get the traction. Good job man!
I don't suppose they have ladder bars for FWD independent suspension cars...?
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Slamnasty
I don't suppose they have ladder bars for FWD independent suspension cars...?
nope but he could get slicks which would hold traction fine

not a bad time for street tires

with traction and a 1.9 60 you could run a low low 13
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Old 04-25-2005, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Slamnasty
I don't suppose they have ladder bars for FWD independent suspension cars...?


my other car OTOH......
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He proved me wrong by well alot. I thought 14's. You might be the first third gen to pull 12's if you can find a way to keep that tq on the ground and keep your ECU from pulling the timing. Are you using a stock ECU or an upgraded one. THe should be your next mod if it's still stock (or you can go with tires).
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um that one dude had 12.73 or something, vg turbo....that guy was on selling vg ecus.....
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Nice times! As everyone has said, try to get that 60' down and you will pull low 13's! You should just ditch the stock KS and go with a J&S. To bad its like $500 though. Major props for goin to the track, I dont recall hearing about any turbo 3rd gens racing besides you and Mark.


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um that one dude had 12.73 or something, vg turbo....that guy was on selling vg ecus.....
Who are you talking about? I dunno, I would be kinda apt to discount any records like this unless they have proof either with a slip, or word from a reputable .org member. Not tryin to flame, I just like concrete evidence.
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Originally Posted by Brad92SE
Nice times! As everyone has said, try to get that 60' down and you will pull low 13's! You should just ditch the stock KS and go with a J&S. To bad its like $500 though. Major props for goin to the track, I dont recall hearing about any turbo 3rd gens racing besides you and Mark.




Who are you talking about? I dunno, I would be kinda apt to discount any records like this unless they have proof either with a slip, or word from a reputable .org member. Not tryin to flame, I just like concrete evidence.
thanks Brad. Yeah he is right about that the guy had a timeslip for that run it was a 12.5 If it was infact his.

Ok what do you think this would pull

Drag radals on a light weight 16 inch rim
getting the knock levels down so I will have good timing still
install the 370cc injectors and go up to 15 psi( the highest boost you can run on a ct26 before it starts to fall off verified by some guys from supraforums.com)
What kind of time do you think that may pull?
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Old 04-26-2005, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
thanks Brad. Yeah he is right about that the guy had a timeslip for that run it was a 12.5 If it was infact his.

Ok what do you think this would pull

Drag radals on a light weight 16 inch rim
getting the knock levels down so I will have good timing still
install the 370cc injectors and go up to 15 psi( the highest boost you can run on a ct26 before it starts to fall off verified by some guys from supraforums.com)
What kind of time do you think that may pull?
I take it you'll be using an FMU in addition to those 370's, right? Id say with that setup, you would be looking at ~350whp, which would be good for high 12's with a decent launch. Just dont snap an axle.
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Originally Posted by Brad92SE
I take it you'll be using an FMU in addition to those 370's, right? Id say with that setup, you would be looking at ~350whp, which would be good for high 12's with a decent launch. Just dont snap an axle.
Me and mark were thinking we good get a apr and turn down the base fuel pressure. that may be pertty close as we are thinking that im being rob of about 30 horses with the timing be cut back so far. So maybe after I can figurger out the sensor and get these injectors in we can see what a new dyno would look like. Also should be getting the 4th gen next weekend too.
But I have decided to keep my 3rd gen and race both of them.But it will be a while before the 4th gen becomes turbo.
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Old 04-26-2005, 10:32 AM
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Is the octane too much? Would too high of an octane just burn continuousy causing sounds to make the KS activate...or maybe some internal noise that is new the to car is activating the KS?

PS say your octane is too high, and fuel continuously burns. (easy to do as 1 revolution at 6-7k rpm takes so short of a second) Would it just burn and expand into the exaust? J/W if theres a octane that would do that...

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Old 04-26-2005, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex_V
Is the octane too much? Would too high of an octane just burn continuousy causing sounds to make the KS activate...or maybe some internal noise that is new the to car is activating the KS?

PS say your octane is too high, and fuel continuously burns. (easy to do as 1 revolution at 6-7k rpm takes so short of a second) Would it just burn and expand into the exaust? J/W if theres a octane that would do that...

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i dont think so
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Old 04-26-2005, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
thanks Brad. Yeah he is right about that the guy had a timeslip for that run it was a 12.5 If it was infact his.

Ok what do you think this would pull

Drag radals on a light weight 16 inch rim
getting the knock levels down so I will have good timing still
install the 370cc injectors and go up to 15 psi( the highest boost you can run on a ct26 before it starts to fall off verified by some guys from supraforums.com)
What kind of time do you think that may pull?
if your going to get DR get MT ET streets if not get REAL slicks. BFG or simalare DR wont hold traction on your car in 1st and posibly 2nd trust me i know
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
i dont think so
oh yeah thats what is got to be is the octane is too. iM going to get some 85octane and dog the hell out of it to see...........................Just kidding

Ok the higher the octane the slower it burns and the harder it is to burn.
That will only help it to not detnate.And the ks is reading the same with 93 also.
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Ok the higher the octane the slower it burns and the harder it is to burn.
That will only help it to not detnate.And the ks is reading the same with 93 also.
I know that, I was just wondering if it got to a point where it burnt slow egnough to cause a degredation in performance.

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well as promissed finally here is the slip. Remember on street tires and crome with a full interior with ks problems.


Dam this is the wrong slip this was not the best one. the other one was like a 13.92 something llike that
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:44 PM
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Bah! I can ride my N/a car faster than that in neutral.















j/p Next time wipe the grease off of your hands before grabbing the timeslip.
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