Trouble shooting my new max...
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Trouble shooting my new max...
Well Thanks to tripleGmax, I got a new maxima for $300. Had to go get it from dayton but it was worth it. It was beatuiful. The paint was a little dull, but thats fine... But the leather interior was in great shape, and it didnt have much rust at all. The biggest rust spot isnt even a half in in diamiter. I'll take care of that real quick...
Any way, I got it over to my friends house, where Ive got both max's to work on. I tried to charge the battery but after not being started in a year it was toast. I charged the one outta my max, and it started right up. At first it didnt click, but I kept tapping the key into start position, it idled rough but eventually it fired. I reved it a little and let it idle. It warmed up a little and then I shut it off.
I tried R,1,2,D and moving the shifter constantly. It wouldnt engage, and and the shifter wasn't percise at all. Going to have to replace the bushings after its running.
So now to trouble shoot what it is. Could it be a bad TCU, or is that pretty much impossable? I doubt it would be that but Im up for fresh ideas. I was thinking it could be a bad CV shaft as the owners friend thought it might be, and there was a spare CV shaft in the trunk. (btw low long is the driver and passenger CVs? I know they are diffrent, wanna know which one I have) Any way I was thinking, jack the front end up and idle/rev it up to about 1500rpm in gear to see if it spins the wheels, or leave it in park and try to move the wheels. Would that work? Ive got good axles and tranny from my parts car to use, and Im doing all the labor my self.
Whats the easiest way to change the CV axles? Ill go check the stickies...
~Alex
Any way, I got it over to my friends house, where Ive got both max's to work on. I tried to charge the battery but after not being started in a year it was toast. I charged the one outta my max, and it started right up. At first it didnt click, but I kept tapping the key into start position, it idled rough but eventually it fired. I reved it a little and let it idle. It warmed up a little and then I shut it off.
I tried R,1,2,D and moving the shifter constantly. It wouldnt engage, and and the shifter wasn't percise at all. Going to have to replace the bushings after its running.
So now to trouble shoot what it is. Could it be a bad TCU, or is that pretty much impossable? I doubt it would be that but Im up for fresh ideas. I was thinking it could be a bad CV shaft as the owners friend thought it might be, and there was a spare CV shaft in the trunk. (btw low long is the driver and passenger CVs? I know they are diffrent, wanna know which one I have) Any way I was thinking, jack the front end up and idle/rev it up to about 1500rpm in gear to see if it spins the wheels, or leave it in park and try to move the wheels. Would that work? Ive got good axles and tranny from my parts car to use, and Im doing all the labor my self.
Whats the easiest way to change the CV axles? Ill go check the stickies...
~Alex
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Well if its not engaging in gear then I dont think its just a CV shaft problem. Cv shafts just transfer the power from the tranny to the wheels. I would begin by checkin the tranny fluid and seeing what that looks like. then I would just put it in gear and see what it does when you give it a little bit of throttle.
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Originally Posted by Drivin Maxima
I would begin by checkin the tranny fluid and seeing what that looks like. then I would just put it in gear and see what it does when you give it a little bit of throttle.
I put it in gear and revved it, nothin. Ill take a closer look saturday night.
~Alex
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well the passenger axle is pretty long, and it should have a metal thing that has 3 bolt holes in it. If so its the passenger, though i have a manual so it may be a different axle. the drivers should be about 2 feet or so and the passengers should be about 3.
If you are going to replace the tranny, the easiest way to remove the axles is to just pull them off with the tranny. The passenger one will remain on the car and the drivers will remain in the tranny. Just tap it out with a wooden dowel. Doing this (pulling the tranny from the axles) damaged my axle seals, but i was going to replace them anyway (cheap part), and on a different tranny, who cares about the old ones.
My best word of advice is GET A SHOP MANUAL! I screwed up tranny during my clutch job, and it was not a cheap fix ($200), so make sure u know what ur doing before you screw with things...lol. Just make sure you know which bolts are the bell housing bolts (kind of obvious), and don't remove random unneccessary bolts that contain little detent *****.
Other than that, it should be cake, and if the boots on your axles are ripped, just spend the 10 bucks per boot kit and make sure the bearings aren't all screwed up. It should take about 2 days if it's your first time, but could be MUCH faster, like 6 hours. Good luck
If you are going to replace the tranny, the easiest way to remove the axles is to just pull them off with the tranny. The passenger one will remain on the car and the drivers will remain in the tranny. Just tap it out with a wooden dowel. Doing this (pulling the tranny from the axles) damaged my axle seals, but i was going to replace them anyway (cheap part), and on a different tranny, who cares about the old ones.
My best word of advice is GET A SHOP MANUAL! I screwed up tranny during my clutch job, and it was not a cheap fix ($200), so make sure u know what ur doing before you screw with things...lol. Just make sure you know which bolts are the bell housing bolts (kind of obvious), and don't remove random unneccessary bolts that contain little detent *****.
Other than that, it should be cake, and if the boots on your axles are ripped, just spend the 10 bucks per boot kit and make sure the bearings aren't all screwed up. It should take about 2 days if it's your first time, but could be MUCH faster, like 6 hours. Good luck
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Garbury- I want to try the CVs first, then if thats not the problem I'll go ahead and swap the trannys. Mine has 20k less miles tho, so is it alot more work to just goahead and do both or is it not much more work to do both at the same time?
Also, is the FSM good egnough for this job? I also have very experianced car mechanics to help me or give me advice, the haven't worked on max's tho
~Alex
Also, is the FSM good egnough for this job? I also have very experianced car mechanics to help me or give me advice, the haven't worked on max's tho
~Alex
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yeah if you dont plan on fixing the tranny, then do not attempt to remove the tranny, it is way more work. Just follow the FSM, it should be sufficient. I think you just pry the axles off, but the passenger axle has 3 bolts holding it in (for Ve 5 spd). Just gotta get down to the spindle and take the nut off, then the drivers axle should be good to pop out. Check the stickies for the link to the autozone website...They have a long article on cv shafts.
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Originally Posted by Alex_V
.... I got a new maxima ....Could it be a bad TCU, or is that pretty much impossable?...
TCU can be toast. More probably voltage /connector oxidation problem (outside mechanical faults).
Run the self test after checking that u get healthy +12V to TCU.
check: http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/748507/15
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Both are VG autos. Im not going to repair anything, just take the good tranny outta my parts car and the axles, and put them in this one. I need a car so if i only have to do the axles Id rather do that. But if i have to do the tranny I can do that too.
I'll be doing a 5speed swap asap
~Alex
I'll be doing a 5speed swap asap
~Alex
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Originally Posted by MaxToGo
Sorry for using your topic. I can't seem to post a new topic.
I have a 98 Max. with the digital instrament cluster. The AC controls are dark and I can't tune AC or fan on since it's dark. Any ideas?
I have a 98 Max. with the digital instrament cluster. The AC controls are dark and I can't tune AC or fan on since it's dark. Any ideas?
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Originally Posted by Alex_V
I tried R,1,2,D and moving the shifter constantly. It wouldnt engage, and and the shifter wasn't percise at all.
have you checked the shifter cable? do you have absolutely no gears at all?
you mentioned that you checked your fluid and it it looked good to you. if your fluid quality and level is good and you put it in gear and get nothing, i would think that the next logical link in the chain would be main line pressure is bad - meaning your tranny pump is toasted
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if the axels are really bad the speedo will move and the car wont while its in gear right? At least thats what happend to a friend of mine when his CV axels went out in his civic, thats a funny story, but i wont go into it
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Yea if it want it in 2ed, I have to hold it above or below (cant remember exactly) to get it into that gear. I think its a sepertate problem tho. Like if It was in any other max that ran and everything this would be a secondary problem. I'll fix it but a rolling max is more important then one that shifts exactly.
The speedo doesn't register any MPH or move at all.
DaWifey- Where can I find the tranny pump?
~Alex
The speedo doesn't register any MPH or move at all.
DaWifey- Where can I find the tranny pump?
~Alex
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Originally Posted by Alex_V
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The speedo doesn't register any MPH or move at all.
DaWifey- Where can I find the tranny pump?
~Alex
The speedo doesn't register any MPH or move at all.
DaWifey- Where can I find the tranny pump?
~Alex
For exact trannyinfo, go, check bottom of page: http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/748507/1
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what twinkle said makes sense...If the car would go into gear yet the axles were broken, the speedometer would move with any input from the gas. The speed sensor is bolted right onto the tranny case itself, so twinkle pretty much eliminated the broken axle hypothesis. Don't waste your time troubleshooting with those unless the boots are all cracked and they need replacement. Definately a transmission issue at hand.
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Originally Posted by Alex_V
Yea if it want it in 2ed, I have to hold it above or below (cant remember exactly) to get it into that gear. I think its a sepertate problem tho. Like if It was in any other max that ran and everything this would be a secondary problem. I'll fix it but a rolling max is more important then one that shifts exactly.
The speedo doesn't register any MPH or move at all.
DaWifey- Where can I find the tranny pump?
~Alex
The speedo doesn't register any MPH or move at all.
DaWifey- Where can I find the tranny pump?
~Alex
in any case, if you put a guage inline with the line going FROM the tranny TO the cooler and determine you have the proper pressure (a spec i do not have - i'm more accustomed to school buses and rigs that actually have a pressure measuring port) - then more likely than not you have a fubar'd convertor and shold just have to swap it out and be done with it
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Originally Posted by eric93SE
actually where he said the shifter is not precise. that may simply be the shift cable bushings (once again), there is one at both ends of the cable, they usually break and fall off the car.
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Dawifey- If its internal im not going to mess with it! Ill pop this tranny in the trash and put in the one from my wrecked max.
I still havn't gotten anything done because I got a migrane yesterday morning, the day I was suspost to at least get the good tranny outta the wrecked max...another weekend shot....
~Alex
I still havn't gotten anything done because I got a migrane yesterday morning, the day I was suspost to at least get the good tranny outta the wrecked max...another weekend shot....
~Alex
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Originally Posted by Alex_V
... I got a migrane yesterday morning, the day I was suspost to at least get the good tranny outta the wrecked max...another weekend shot....
~Alex
~Alex
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