I've seen some posts on here for pacesetter headers...Is it only the VE engine that uses headers?

 

Pacesetter sucks no matter what they are put on. Fittment sucks, and they arent too much better over stock.

~Alex

 

i have a pacesetter catback i like it. Headers i dont know.

 

The VE doesn't have aftermarket headers available

 

Pacesetter are only for the VG. IIRC, they replace the tubing from the heads to the cat. I think your money would be better spent on a y-pipe. But, it's your money.

 

I have the Pacesetter headerback and I love it, I have seen a 18 hp increase and a gain the the tourqe also, but I havent seen any other headers for the VG

 

I was just on the pace setter header site and noticed that they list headers for the 90-94 VG30E engine. But why no 89? Why won't they fit?

 

Did you dyno that 18hp increse? Not doubting the increse just wondering if its a exact gain or a guessed one.

~Alex

 

Whatever your claimed increase is, I am sure it is within a couple of hp of the warpspeed y-pipe.

 

Got got a dyno sheet to show us right?

 

That's why I put in "claimed" hp

 

18? u sure it wasn't 22hp increase?

 

well I think headers would look nicer than the tubing. Is PaceSetter the only one that provides them? Are they polished?

 

who cares what it looks like if it doesnt perform any better it would be a waste of money unless your going for the rice appeal

 

well it's always nice to make it look good as well as perform well. You can't have the headers AND the Y-Pipe can you?

 

1. alot of polished are ceramic coated which does help performance and life span
2. no , you have to use their y-pipe

 

You think you would notice any gain if you cut the headers before they merged into one pipe, then ran two pipes back (assuming you could find space to route the second pipe) for a true dual exhaust system?

 

I have to find the dyno, in which that shows my increase in hp, I'm not doubting that the y-pipe puts the same amount of increase in hp as my headers. Keep in mind that each persons car will be affected differently due to wear and tear, how hard one drives their car, center of gravity, other mods and the order that they are done. My results should not be a guideline for others.

 

There's no room under there for true dual 2.5"

 

if you have enough $$$$ it can be done....

 

i have cattman headers for the very hated and anemic VG. they were about $800, custom made in small quantities in new zealand for cattman. they are illegal race headers. but i use them anyway.

they have no tapped holes for the EGR or O2 sensor. they have their own y-pipe and are stainless steel plated, shiny. and are heat-coated. they look awesome. and i can't wait for the flames of disapproval from those who may read this.

i have not dynoed them. but i have lost some low-end torque, as i was expecting with headers. however, the gains to mid and top end are quite notable. they exceed the gains that i was getting with the warpspeed y-pipe. however, the wrpsd. y-pipe allowed for more low-end pickup. were i you, i would stay with the y-pipe, as the headers, as cool as they are a novelty, are not really meant for the street. and you can put the $800 to buy another 3rd gen if you'd like.

however, with cattman headers, you can easily bury the VG speedometer needle past the puny 125 mph mark on the gauge. in fact, i have pondered swapping in the VE 145mph speedo, as that would be more appropriate. i'd like to take it out to a race track for the heck of it, with that gauge setup, and see how fast it can actually go.

mind you, this is all illegal. yet with the remaining warpspeed b-pipe and catback, with magnaflow, the VG sounds like a gawd-dayum animal from the depths of heL.
and with the R32 Skyline factory wheels, it looks the part. people want to race me, but i know i have no low-end. and i cannot launch at high-rev the p.o.s. borg sh!tter tranny anymore, so forget it. i'll own them in my GVR-4 for that task.

peace.

 

Illegal? not in ohio! The law here says something like "Cannot be obnoxious" or something w/o a real decible level. My buddy is running 3.5in from the header back w/o a cat on his rx7 3 rotor. Its loud and bad.

Unless you lost 30hp in the low end I doubt youd have a problem beating 4cyls in a race. Try it, may surprise you.

~Alex

 

Illegal being it won't pass the smog test...

 

to catogorize all 4 cylinders together and say that you can beat them is unlogical. Its all power to weight.

 

right. that's what i mean.

and, yeah, i have not lost so much low end that the car is ineffectual. it isn't at all like that. but i did lose a little. to compensate for it, i can rev higher and do jack-rabbit starts at stop lights, but this wastes tons of gas and is just unecessary. it zips in and out of traffic like it always did. so i am not unhappy. it is what it is. a daily ride to get me around that is a bit different.

about 4 cyl. if they're turbo'd, forget it. any max is toast. especially against an STi or Evo, or GVR-4, or A4 --notice those are all AWD. go to the drags one night and see who is really fast. you'll never see a maxima there. and about most of the imports are all 4cyl.

i've seen 11 and 10 sec civics, as well. sad to say, but true. seriously, if you want to hang with some fast homies, and learn a lot, start going to the drags. it will change your entire perspective. you'll want a turbo car so badly.

 

Its just power to weight... whether there turboed or not. im sure there are alot of N/A 4 bangers that will woop most maximas on here and there are alot of the vise versa. Im not trying to just defend four banger but to rate speeds of cars into how many cylinders they have is unlogical. to say that "i could beat four banger donsnt mean jack." im not trying to start any arguments either just try to clear up a bit of unlogical thinking.

 

Forgot about the smog test, but we dont have one every year any way.

And I ment you can beat most riced out 4cyls like ricer hondas and stuff. But not people who know what they are doing. All I was saying is the max isnt limping around on 3 cyls so it should still be very fast compared to most cars. And Im well aware of power to weight ratio. Thats why an mr2 with the same HP as a VE will kill it, much better P:W. I know it'd be pretty hard to beat a evo or dsm, those things are wicked fast. Ok well unless we were FI too..but thats besides the point...

Any way It sounds like the headers were a sweet upgrade. But did you make a hole for the O2 sensor? Because you can gain more power that way as the computer goes into a limp mode. Unless you used a O2 simulator.

~Alex

 

use the word "illogical" from now on. you will sound more logical.

 

Center of gravity. Please elaborate further on this so that we may all benefit from you awesome car knowledge.

 

yeah, i never tapped an O2 sensor hole. i need to. you make a good point.

 

you are driving around without an O2 sensor in the exhaust?

 

Thats what I was thinking. Kinda a loss of power right there...a pretty noticeable one at that..

~Alex

 

yep.

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