nismosleeper

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Alright so I finally got my motor mounts in and intalled my engine, tranny, and such....I was cruising the local "strip" and all of a sudden the horn started blairing and the brights light came on in the cluster, although my brights weren't really on. I pull over, leave the car running, and open the door and it stops. I then close the door and while it is happening again walk to the front of the car and pull the wires off of the horn. My turn signals are not hooked up in the front for now, and my tailights haven't worked for six months....any ideas on the problem/s? Maybe an exorcism is in need? Thanks

DaWifey's90

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dude there are so many questions and flags all over this one.

why haven't your tails worked? when you pulled the horn wires what (if anything) happened with the lights?

to state the obvious, you have a wiring issue. the options are you reconnected the connectors improperly which based on my limited experience should be hard to do because manufacturers rarely use a shape/size connector twice unless there's a left and right application - or - the more likely possibility, you crushed a harness when reinstalling items in your engine bay. you may have also missed a ground connection - this would be more likely if all of the systems you're reporting are on a shared circuit.

Wiking

Exorcism does not hlp when its working as its wired.

1. Drive door open
2. correct taillights
3. cont. as is, soon smbdy will flatten u, no exorsim prblm in da graveyard: spend eternity with em...

Luckily we still have police which collects death traps off da road. No rear lights = killer attitude.

internetautomar

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1. PARK THE CAR
2. open wallet
3. remove pink slip
4. wave bye-bye as junk yard takes car away.

seriously, unless you're dam good at tracking down wiring shorts and have tons of time in which to do it, you're better off junking the car.

Greeny

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........Nicely said....In my opinion it is going to cost more then the car is worth to track down and fix all the wiring ghosts this car has.....

Wiking

Btw. Unpluggin rear light does not cost anythin. Shorts there might even be the whole problem.

- Unplug rear lamps; any change? If now ok, check/repair/buy new
- Unplug horn

Whatever, dont keep on driving w/o rear lights

nismosleeper

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Oh it makes brake checking people even funner. There is no way in hell that I will junk the car. I'll trouble shoot, and if need be, I will use a different harness (I have one). The horn is disconnected, I guess that I'll just have to track it all down, and possibly rewire the brake lights for now. The tails do turn on at night though.

Greeny

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Now thats dedication.......Remember though there are alot of maximas out there cheap...that don't have all these problems that your car has....

nismosleeper

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Yeah, i would like nothing more than to get another 3rd gen, but in my area, finding a nice 5 speed is very unlikely. The car runs fine, so i'll stick to it until it quits on me. My boss is thinking about selling this beautiful candy blue VE 5 speed, so I might hit her up.

Wiking

Everyone can believe that: smbody else will flatten ya, a 70mph rear end on nightly higway. Recklesness explains 50.000 roadkills, floods (NO levee board bought 6 casinos, personal jets, but did not do their job; by FoxNews) Luckily there always is mr Bush to put the blame on...

Functionality of rear/br lights is on par with brakes, nobody needs em, theyre just dead weight... until smtg happens. I think its worst insult on fellow travelers to knowingly drive without. Your job is to keep u car safe, not because of u, but for others who have paved the road for u to roam.

Make sure the tails really work - always. Doesnt hlp u relatives if they fail, while u were thinking they were ok.

nismosleeper

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You do realize that you might not have an invalid response in that rambling incoherency. I am just real careful when I brake, and the way that I drive, most other cars are waaayy behind me when i come to a stop. I do need to get it fixed though. So the general consensus is that it's the grounds?

Greeny

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Now be easy on wiking...He is learning a foreign language on the fly here on the org. He means well, he just doesn't know how to express himself in a way we can understand him...It would be like you traveling to sweden and going into a autoparts store and trying to explain to the people behind the counter what part you need.....He is doing the best he can to convey what he is thinking....I am a little biased though...My mother is from germany...

nismosleeper

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I really can't figure out whether he is serious or throwing sarcasm out there. Seems like he has the language down ok. Sorry Wiking; failed to notice that you are Swedish...good luck with that. How are gas prices for you pal...so does anyone have any ideas?

CyMax

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Sucks but sounds like the truth.

Or

1. Drive car to mechanic
2. Open wallet
3. Remove money, heck just all of it.
4. Wave bye-bye to dignity

Greeny

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I would rather stick my head in a vise and start twisting then try to track down a damn wiring gremlin.....

nismosleeper

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hell no; my car is ugly as crap, i will only throw money into it to make it sleeper status. It can have all of the kinks it wants as long as I can terrorize the unsuspecting citizens of Tulsa. I will not throw money at a mechanic, or invest money into something like that. I will learn how to do wiring before i give up and junk it, or pay someone. I just asked you guys first so I might have a better idea before I dug into it....so thanks I guess for the ideas.

CyMax

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Sorry man, wiring problems suck, heck SUCK!!! Not much way around hours of testing tracing and confusion. Best of luck tho I really hope it works out for you.

Greeny

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You will see what we are talking about when you dig in to this wiring problem... Been there,done that.....They are usually imposible to find...I would like to help you, but Like i said....The vise thing......

nismosleeper

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Thanks, i know what i'm getting into, and it does not sound like fun, but necessity sometimes cultures unexplored skills. I don't have a vice, otherwise...

Matt93SE

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damn dude.. you're telling us we're stupid when we tell you not to turbo the car, and you can't even make the BRAKE LIGHTS work?

please do us all a favor now.... next time you're terrorizing the fine people of my home city, drive as fast as you can down I-44. when you get near the Arkansas river bridge, veer right just a few feet and hold on.

nismosleeper

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I have not tried to fix the lights yet. It's kinda pointless trying to defend myself, but here it goes. I never told anyone that they were stupid; I always expect skeptics on the .org, that's a given, i mearly told the skeptics that they were wrong and that i can and will make that happen. I am mechanically inclined, not as much so as some of you guys, but i can swap out engines, trannys, and do all of that good stuff...I even know how to swim. I don't speed too much on I-44 so sorry; I only speed excessively on 169 and 244. And going into the river...hmm...fixing that might be more troublesome than the wiring issues, plus it is real dirty. Thanks for the support guys

CyMax

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Yikes!!!!! Kinda harsh dude. I feel ya, but damn lools like your wishing the deep sleep on someone.

Wiking

All is well.

...only after u brake&rear lights do work. This does not matter if u decide to just walk, then all is well now. ...

I've already learned to sverve farmer trailers like u in pitch blk higway w/o lights. By Gods Grace I am still alive. But those on graveyards did not. Its not what YOU do on the road, its what u have not done. Its not u skills, but the poor blondie whose capacity is overflown already with street lights: these drivers will cause a pileup b/c u did not blink brake lights or any lights.

When a Deutsche Autobahn stops dead, everybody has immediately hazard lights blinking. I say that is traffick culture if any! They warn possibly sleeping fellows speedin behind - not to smash. Now ppl like u (alas, global phenomena), take this into other extreme: lights off, wait as bait!

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Btw. I am serious about this light stuff. Do not kill innocents, there are lots better, more profitable targets...
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Gas is cheap, only 7.5$ per gallon. Trouble starts at 15$...thats all I've got. Long live socialismus...

Actual Issue:
- Take rear lamp assy, both on the table and inspect for short.
- If u cannot correct, take fused +12V wire to brake pedal sw, then route to rear, solder in. Cut off ol brake wires...
- Front lights prbl possibly totally different, sw assy contacts are known to burn. May melt even connectors; horn wiring goes near... Take out, clean. Install bypass relays, then the sw might even last, get boosted lights.

explained in here: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/748507/11

nismosleeper

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Thanks wiking...will do. I DO however have rear lights, so people do see me, i just don't stop fast we someone is behind me. The front turn signals are just disconnected for now (the bumper cover is off). I will fix that problem after class in a couple of hours.

Wiking

Reasonoble for short period. But making temporary brake light is veery simple, buy third light an plugit into cig lighter, or whatever, use with a sw. But make u rear safe...

Ppl get killed as drowsy drivers bang head on even if u park beside highway, hazard lights on. Seen lots folks 'on picnick' even behind steep curves. Once in Austria IN A TUNNEL driving 50mph, behind a curve was stopped car, their whole family around, like a campsite, 'havin fun'. It was fraction of second margin as I sverved tha bus [my luck there was space] off their lane. If not, I'd still be in jail... Sometimes I wonder how many more seconds they survived as lots traffick zooming in, behind me. For this blondie -reason I prefer to drive extra miles for a turnaoround, rather than stop in the middle, even legally: maybe 10% drivers are blondies, drugged, sleepy...

As an extra rear light is added, u will be amazed how much more distance the drivers behind start to keep. Your been seen... And besides, I do use hazard light liberally and/or blink few times br lights as stopped in lights... For this reason I have the extra fogh lights: to sign out for beloved stupidos that I am coming, pls, dont get killed.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/748507/11

Matt93SE

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dude, my point- and Wiking's- is that driving with no brake lights is UNSAFE and ILLEGAL.

don't even think about cruising memorial with no brake lights. they'll give you a ticket for sneezing at the wheel, let alone anything actually illegal with the car. been there, done that. $287 and three dates with a Tulsa County Judge later... for turning into the second lane going around a corner at 41st and Memorial on a Friday night..

not to mention the unsafe aspect. the first time you DO get rear-ended out there (and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet), YOU will be the one getting the ticket.
just because you say you stay ahead of traffic doesn't mean you're not going to get stuck in front of someone and have to hit your brakes- especially with all the street racing you infer about in various posts.

Hell, if I run into you next time in Tulsa, I might just rear end you and call the cops just so I can get my fading bumper cover replaced and A/C system rebuilt on your insurance company's dime. That's assuming you actually have insurance.

I'm not trying to be mean man, I'm trying to teach you how to properly do things. haven't you seen that from all of the posts on all of the forums that I tell you that? ghetto-rigging **** will only get you so far for so long. eventually it's going to catch up with you and cost you a sh!tload of money, and possibly legal fees as well.

fix the car right and STOP DRIVING IT if you don't have any brake lights. several hundred thousand people in the Tulsa Metro area will thank you for it.

nismosleeper

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I don't really cruise Memorial anymore; there are sooo many stupid people and too many wrecks. My setup is for top-end anyway, so I do highway runs with a group off of Memorial, at a place called Carpet and Tile. A couple of your TU guys there have 700+ hp supras they sport . I fixed the turn signals a few minutes ago, but I will still drive the car w/o brake lights. I have a lawyer for the ticket and fines aspect; he is great. If anyone rear ends me, then my brake lights will have been broken by the impact....ya know. I have insurance, thanks, I just got it back on the road, so I'm trying to fix the kinks to make it safe and reliable. Ghetto-rigging has worked fine so far; I should win an award for how ghetto my maxima is....adds to the sleeper effect.

Matt93SE

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No, you should win a Darwin award for KNOWINGLY driving around with no brake lights.

If you get in a wreck and the person that hits you says they didn't see brake lights, they can and will check your car. even if the lights are broken, they can tell whether or not your brake lights were on when you were hit.

and whether you have a lawyer or not doesn't excuse you from doing stuff so stupendously foolish as that.
not to mention high speed street racing. there is not a road in Tulsa that's safe for that kind of stuff. the surface streets aren't safe because of turnoffs, and the highways aren't safe because of the traffic.

have fun. hope your lawyer laughs at you when you call him from jail with a car with no brake lights and a 100+mph ticket.

MrGone

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this is one of the most retarded things I've ever read.

seriously, buy a bike (the pedal kind) and stay off the roads.