vansskaterfreek

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hey guys... in me VE....i have a hard time getting the tires to break loose on dry ground....... even if i try and get the RPMs up al ittle to try and break the tires loose.. i just cant do it... the motor has 68k on it.. it is BONE STOCK.... is there a cheap way to get more low end power????? would a WSP help alot?

Dillbag

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ditch the auto...

Harvs94max

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more mods will solve ur problem i have just about every bolt on for the ve and first gear is nuts now i have to modulate the throttle in first too keep the tires from spinning the jwt ecu made a huge low end difference
otherwise wsp ypipe will help along with the rest of the exhaust

vansskaterfreek

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well i am defiantely getting the WSP... i dunno about the pulley though.. and yes when i blow this automatic up.. im dfinately putting in a 5 speed! i have to.. these autos suck!

todamax

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I have no problem spinning all the way through 1st gear. In 2nd I get a decent squeal. I never tried to do this stuff with the auto, I figured it was pointless.

dmontzsta

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Good luck with an auto, you need to be making another 20-30hp. With a 5 speed it will be the opposite (how can I keep them from spinning in 1st). Honestly the best mod I ever did was convert to 5 speed. I know an old school 4th gen owner who had an auto, then went 5 speed, then went supercharged. He claimed the auto to 5 speed swap was more noticeable than the supercharger. It costs a chunk, but well worth it. Either that or dump $700-800 in bolt ons.

Dillbag

iTrader: (4)

oh yeah, vans, what's with all the blinking lights in your cluster in your videos? Wiring probs?

ustfdes

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In my VE5spd, in 1st i break loose to the point my front end actually floats (drifts) left or right for a few seconds before i finally catch traction, in second i get a decent squeal, and i get a good chirp out of 3rd. Bone stock also, except i removed the factory air duct leading to the air box and added a high flow K&N air filter.

me loves me some VE5. yessirrrrr.....

vansskaterfreek

iTrader: (14)

i guess the car had some wiring problems... i didnt touch one wire.. didnt cut one wire on this car.... since it already had a VE in it there was no cutting of wires so i guess it may be a problem with something i dunno and it dont affect anything so im gonna leave it..... now i cant wait to blow this tranny to put in my new 5 speed....LOL

swowlinc

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Too much wheel spin? Get some 18's. Not enough, buy more bolt-ons...That's what I did.

internetautomar

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wheel spin is wasted HP

nismology

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I was thinking the same thing. Spinning tires is not ultimately a good thing, and doesn't really say much. Even honda's can spin out in 1st if they launch high enough and dump it. It's hard for me to spin in first with my bolt-on VQ and 225 all-season's up front unless i pretty much dump it engage the clutch abruptly.

Harvs94max

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sorry i dont need to do any clutch dumping or reving just smash the throttle and i can light the tires up
now that takes a little power
i understand that wheel spin obviously isnt the best to go fast but it sure is fun
or just buy some r compounds from me

nismology

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Sorry? You say that like i'm at a disadvantage for having a VQ. LOL


I mentioned that because i am most likely putting out more torque than a bolt-on VE and i can't just light the tires up at will. It's more a function of your tires than anything else.

4dscPat

I have a VG5 and can smoke my bald all season passenger tires all through first and get a good chirp/jerk in 2nd. I could maybe get a small chirp off the line on dry pavement with my auto.

vansskaterfreek

iTrader: (14)

well the tires that i have are pretty much shot and i have about 6 rims that have OK to bad tires on them.. i wanna play with some smoke.. since the tires are pretty much trash anyways.. no loss there

Jeff92se

iTrader: (82)

More than anything, my JWT ecu helped my low end greatly. But advancing the timing a tad and running premium gas will help. But not as much

505max94se

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In my currently non-running ve-5, I'd get wheel spin on dry pavement, in first gear, almost like it's revving WOT in nuetral, if it was <40 degrees outside. I was using 235-45/17 kumho ecsta 712's.

vansskaterfreek

iTrader: (14)

can you tell me exactly what advanced timing does??????? i always wondered this and since i used to have a VG i never payed attention........is there a way that i could turn it a little and still use 89 octane fuel??? how much would the JWT ECU set me back?

Hectic

iTrader: (20)

Very Egocentric

todamax

iTrader: (6)

Yes it is. That is why my max has nice shoes, which is why it will never chirp 3rd gear without way more power.

nismology

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What exactly does a JWT do to provide gains on a VE? I've always wondered since from what i know the ignition timing has to be advanced manually.

Greeny

iTrader: (43)

Advancing the timing will give you a little more low end power,but will shave some pwer off the top end...

Note: If you advance your timing even a little you need to use premium fuel,or risk detonation,which will slowly destroy your engine over time...

James92SE

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Vans..

No matter what anyone says, you're just flat not gonna get any power out of a VE auto on the low end. My VE auto was fully modded and was even then still an absolute dog off the line. With stock tires I could at best get a little chirp, and nothing at all with my 17's. If you're gonna stay auto then get used to it, cuz no matter what you do it's always gonna suck ***** anywhere below 30 or so

You'd have to get a high-stall TC to accomplish much of anything, and if you were to do that much work on an auto you could just do the swap to a 5spd

VEvolution

So because your putting out more torque, its harder for you to break the tires loose? I just did a nice read on the difference between horsepower and torque, and it seems that torque helps the engine operate better as speeds increase. Does this mean, the more torque you have the longer you have to wait until you get it depending on your horsepower? http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mhorsepower.html

nismology

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I'm not saying that the reason i'm putting out more torque makes it harder to break the tires loose. I'm saying that people saying they can light up their tires at will is not a good thing since it means they're wasting HP, not necessarily cus they're putting out mAdD HP y0!

VEvolution

Yeah, I know what your sayin.. But was my analogy correct on the torque thing? Im just tryin to understand what I read in that link a little better, and since you mentioned something about breaking tires loose and torque, I thought I'd ask you.

nismology

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Well to answer your question, torque and HP are seperate things even though HP is derived from TQ. People often have a misconception that torque is what moves the car at lower RPM and that HP takes over on the top end. That's completely false.

1. What you feel, no matter what the RPM is, is torque.
2. Torque on it's own does a car no good though since the wheels need to be accelerated, aka work.
3. HP is a measure of how much work a motor can do throughtout the rev-range. Basically...

vansskaterfreek

iTrader: (14)

ok instead of me makign a new thread, when my motor temperature goes a little higher than normal, i have an EXTREME loss of power.... anyone know why?

Scope

iTrader: (5)

Change your t-stat, check radiator fluid. You are out of your optimal operating temps and the intake will be a little warmer and maximaum lubrication won't be acheived as the oil breaks down fairly easy when heated up.

vansskaterfreek

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ohh ok... the temp goes up because my radiator fans will not kick on.. i just replaced the relays so ill see what they do soon

internetautomar

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Knock sensor heat soak

vansskaterfreek

iTrader: (14)

so my KS is fine?????? or do i need a replacement???? becasue it is fine when it is at normal temp.

internetautomar

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well first fix the high temp problem then worry about the KS

Greeny

iTrader: (43)

You also may have some air pockets in the cooling system due to the swap...Bleed it out.....

vansskaterfreek

iTrader: (14)

the radiator fans arent kicking on and i have to wait until tomorrow to see if they work right... i replaced the relays in the box near the battery.. the one looked a little burnt so i changed it.. cannot test it until tomorrow and my A/C compressor has a bolt broken off in it so i cannot turn the A\C on to see if they kick on

edit: ohh and the car seems t o have alot more ***** when the engine is cold

Scope

iTrader: (5)

Check your under fuses also.