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Old 04-29-2006 | 09:55 PM
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5spd ve tranny problem

a few days ago the tranny got stuck in reverse and wouldnt come out with clutch in out and either engine on or off. so i was playing around with it and finally it came out so then i tested out all forward geas and they were fine then i tryed reverse again and again it got stuck and i reversed and herd a stanger than normal whirring sounds so i said fack. i took the tranny out and took it to a tranny place they crakced it open and tell me nothings wrong so they replace some seals and i get the tranny back so i plop it back in and it was in first and now wont come out of first with engine on or off and clutch in or out
so my question is what they heck is wrong

clutch
flywheel
throwout beaing
slave and master
all about a year old and look and work properly
shift linkage i disconected and has plennty of room and movement and is not hung up on anything
Old 04-29-2006 | 10:17 PM
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that sucks ***. could be anything now that theyve messed with it.
Old 04-29-2006 | 10:26 PM
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Uhh...paging Matt...I can't say what is wrong with it, but since there is a new problem with it the shop who worked on it is somewhat liable. How does reverse work for you now?
Old 04-30-2006 | 03:13 AM
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i cant get it out a first which is what it was in when they gave it to me
Old 04-30-2006 | 03:23 AM
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I would check the shift fork for proper operation. can you get it in and out of gear using only the shift fork? If so, check the shifter linkage (all the bolts + stabilizer bar) and shifter asembly; especially if you have sts. If not, you need to look deeper in the trans... possibly the input shaft, main shaft, etc.

clutch
flywheel
throwout beaing
slave and master

...most likely are not your prob since they just put crank revs to the ground. You need to find out why you can't gear that power... i.e. m/t & related mechanics.

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Uhh...paging Matt...
You didn"t ask for any specific matt

Lata,

Matt a.k.a fugi

P.S. this is the abreviated form because i have one hand in a cast...
Old 04-30-2006 | 09:12 AM
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my guess is the input shaft bearings, even thought it could be something else.

OK, put your car in neutral and start it. Leave it in neutral and push in the clutch. Listen for whirring. Now I can't remember which , but you will hear it whirr pretty loudly.

Bad input shaft bearings are very common problems with Maxima 5-speeds. I had that happen, except mine initially wouldn't go into 1st or 2nd, then it got stuck in 2nd for a while.

I just got another tranny and swapped it in. If you are good with puzzles, the bearings aren't that expensive. Hectic replaced his himself and IIRC, it cost like $50 or less for the parts. If you call up a tranny shop, it's like $1,000 or more for the whole job.
Old 04-30-2006 | 04:15 PM
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the tranny is locked in first i cant move it out at all even if i take the linkage off and try and pull on the lever with my hand or with a hand wrench
the tranny was rebiuld about a year ago and the bearings should be good
when i took it into the tranny place they opened it up and they said nothing was wrong
but im pretty sure something is wrong internally
im just trying to figure out if there is anything externally that would cause this and i have re checked and double checked everything
linkage is fine it has plenty of movement and nothing is in the way as far as the input shaft bearing like i said before the tranny was just rebuild and there is no whirring from the bearing i had it go once before and i know what it sounds like.
Old 05-01-2006 | 01:34 PM
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i cant move it out at all even if i take the linkage off and try and pull on the lever with my hand or with a hand wrench
Make sure your pulling on the striking rod. If you can't get it out, your problem is definatly internal. You should be able to pull it out an inch or so and turn the yoke left or right to change gears.

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when i took it into the tranny place they opened it up and they said nothing was wrong
Therein lies your problem. They probably didn't remove the check plugs (1st & 2nd and 3rd & 4th) before splitting the case. This is throwing one or all (3) of your shift forks out of alignment and not allowing proper operation. Some one is going to have to crack it open and search for return springs and check *****.

You don't need a rebuild so don't pay for a rebuild. If you have an fsm check pages mt-11 thru mt-12.
Old 05-01-2006 | 01:56 PM
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I had a very similar problem, every time I took it into the trans shop, they were able to shift it fine, and couldnt see any problem. Get it back in the car, and I would get locked in a gear. Turned out to be a weak detent ball spring. A new spring and Ive had no problem for the last 20k miles.
Old 05-02-2006 | 07:04 AM
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sucks you had to do all that and get nowhere. but yeah, make sure all ***** and springs are there and positioned correctly. if your input shaft bearing is shot, there's going to be ***** and debris blocking you in and out of gears as well, but you probably would have noticed the grinding sounds months ago. sounds like this transmission shop failed to do what you paid them to do.. there's obviously something wrong inside the transmission and they couldn't find the problem. that sucks, but if you drop the tranny again, take it back and try to get them to fix it for free since they didn't last time due to lack of knowledge (in other words). if they don't agree, it's nothing some wrenching, organization, service manual and maxima.org account cant fix. unless you're disassembling the shafts, it's not all that complicated in there. and if you get stuck you can get help here at the org. good luck with the shop if you go back. imo, they owe you the time you've taken to remove and install the tranny. I doubt they'll see it that way though...
Old 05-02-2006 | 09:21 AM
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well i called the tranny place and they sent a tow truck out to get the car which i was pleased about. So I get a call today saying they had to take the tranny back out (i think they tought i intsalled it wrong thats y they wanted the whole car) and they fixed whatever the problem was they said that i must have bumped the shaft and got it locked up which is complete bull as i took it out of the car and it was back on the motor in 10 minutes and i never bumped it. But get this they wanted to charge me the labor and for the towing i was like ahhhh no. I ended up explaining to them that thats crap and they messed up y should i have to pay for it and then i ended up talking to the owner and now i dont have to pay a dime which is what should happen

so ill be picking it up later today and we shall see if it is indeed fixed. I still have a feeling that it is going to lock up again in reverse.

im still a little pissed they were going to actually charge me and the fact that i just put in 45 bucks worth of redline into the tranny i hope they reused it.
Old 05-02-2006 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Harvs94max
well i called the tranny place and they sent a tow truck out to get the car which i was pleased about. So I get a call today saying they had to take the tranny back out (i think they tought i intsalled it wrong thats y they wanted the whole car) and they fixed whatever the problem was they said that i must have bumped the shaft and got it locked up which is complete bull as i took it out of the car and it was back on the motor in 10 minutes and i never bumped it. But get this they wanted to charge me the labor and for the towing i was like ahhhh no. I ended up explaining to them that thats crap and they messed up y should i have to pay for it and then i ended up talking to the owner and now i dont have to pay a dime which is what should happen

so ill be picking it up later today and we shall see if it is indeed fixed. I still have a feeling that it is going to lock up again in reverse.

im still a little pissed they were going to actually charge me and the fact that i just put in 45 bucks worth of redline into the tranny i hope they reused it.
well, that's good news. sounds like a reasonable shop if they didn't make too big of deal about it and waived the charges. "bumped the shaft" give me a break.. they probably realized they overlooked something the second time around.
Old 05-03-2006 | 03:53 PM
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well i got the car back and everything seemed pretty good for a while
me and my friends decided to go golfing at a course about 45min from our house as we r leaving from the course i miss a turn so i pull into a driveway to turn around and fock its stuck in reverse again. so now i have to call a tow truck and have it retowed to the trannny place and we are sitting there for three hours meanwhile i miss an exam. what a day. now im really getting pissed at this tranny place

i dont understand what it is wrong with it all the forward gears are fine but it just gets locked in reverse and the tranny place has opened the tranny twice now and they havent seen anything wrong
but we shall e now what they say
Old 05-04-2006 | 01:51 AM
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Hey,

I'm sorry to hear they're putting you through this. I've had things like it happen before. Best advice is to stay on 'em and go in prepared. Have them check the shift fork (& rod) for 5th gear where it connects to the 5th & reverse bracket and reverse lever assembly. After looking deeper into the fsm it seems to me that they're looking past a missing spring, improperly installed spring, or something similar. It could be many things so I don't want to speculate, however I will say this. That shop should refund your money for the first diagnosis they never completed or tell you whats wrong. IMO, you shouldn't owe them a dime since you never needed a tow/more service until they messed up the job. Besides, look at the headace its caused you.

Good luck with getting that exam made up,

lata
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