89-94 Euro Crystal Clear Headlights!
i'm getting a set...why? because i'm going to take the lense off and slap them on the housing i built for projectors...this will allow me to keep the stock look and curve of the car. the rest of the light i'll probably not use.
why didn't they consult with us? because i can probably bet all this stuff comes from tawain/china and our opinions don't really care.
for the guys who thinks there's another bulb...nope it's going to be the stock 9004. look at that square plate w/ the hole...same thing on the stock headlight.
you guys all b1tch that there's no support for the 3rd gen...then a product comes out and you guys are still not happy. if there was a projector in it...you think the price would be under $200? glass lense too. then you'll all b1tch that the price is too high and etc. you wonder why there's no support?
why didn't they consult with us? because i can probably bet all this stuff comes from tawain/china and our opinions don't really care.
for the guys who thinks there's another bulb...nope it's going to be the stock 9004. look at that square plate w/ the hole...same thing on the stock headlight.
you guys all b1tch that there's no support for the 3rd gen...then a product comes out and you guys are still not happy. if there was a projector in it...you think the price would be under $200? glass lense too. then you'll all b1tch that the price is too high and etc. you wonder why there's no support?
Originally Posted by DanNY
you guys all b1tch that there's no support for the 3rd gen...then a product comes out and you guys are still not happy. if there was a projector in it...you think the price would be under $200? glass lense too. then you'll all b1tch that the price is too high and etc. you wonder why there's no support?
To be honest, this is the kind of thing I would expect a member to make in his garage. Not something for a company to do. I'm sorry Custom Enterprise, but I believe a little more time could have been spent on the interior of the assembly. Change it around, and make it more along the lines of a projector, or just fill in some of the gaps or something. Just don't let it look the out lense was swapped out.
Though I agree, a lot of the comments here have been harsh. But it's the sort of feedback that helps the company know what kind of buyers they have and can adjust accordingly.
Originally Posted by DanNY
i'm getting a set...why? because i'm going to take the lense off and slap them on the housing i built for projectors...this will allow me to keep the stock look and curve of the car. the rest of the light i'll probably not use.
why didn't they consult with us? because i can probably bet all this stuff comes from tawain/china and our opinions don't really care.
for the guys who thinks there's another bulb...nope it's going to be the stock 9004. look at that square plate w/ the hole...same thing on the stock headlight.
you guys all b1tch that there's no support for the 3rd gen...then a product comes out and you guys are still not happy. if there was a projector in it...you think the price would be under $200? glass lense too. then you'll all b1tch that the price is too high and etc. you wonder why there's no support?
why didn't they consult with us? because i can probably bet all this stuff comes from tawain/china and our opinions don't really care.
for the guys who thinks there's another bulb...nope it's going to be the stock 9004. look at that square plate w/ the hole...same thing on the stock headlight.
you guys all b1tch that there's no support for the 3rd gen...then a product comes out and you guys are still not happy. if there was a projector in it...you think the price would be under $200? glass lense too. then you'll all b1tch that the price is too high and etc. you wonder why there's no support?
good idea...same thing I was saying about buying them to put the lens on the E36 lights.
Dont start that no support thing. If it were anything but a stock housing with a clear lens I would not be b1tching about it but come on man its just a stock housing with a clear glass lens on it. If you didnt have the projectors to put the lens on would you run them? I know for a fact you wouldnt because of your views on lighting and how horrible it will be without cuts in the reflector to point the light or lines in the housing to difuse and point the light.
The light will be very wild and unfocused. It will probably be dangerous and blind oncoming drivers. I konw with all the info you know about headlights you will agree with me here.
its not a matter of supporting a car...its more a matter of supporting it the right way...maybe do a little R&D or whatever instead of just taking a stock light and putting a clear lens on it. Heck it wouldnt have been hard to take an existing diamond cut reflector and cut the factory lens off and fit that reflector in there for a mold.
I will more than likely buy a set one day just to put the lens on a set of E36s but to use them like they are is crazy imo.
I am sorry I just cant see the value of these lights other than just using the clear lens on other lights and I dont really see this as supporting our car.
Do you think of those ugly R34 kits that guy made as being support for our cars? I dont want to tick off any of our vendors or mods but I am raising specific concerns and pointing out flaws...I really dont see that as b1tching.
edit: oh and btw I dont think I have ever b1tched about not having support for the 3rd gen. Heck the one thing I really like about the car is you can do little things to it yourself that takes a little work and thought instead of just bolting something on that everyone with a little money can do. Dont get me wrong I am glad they came out with a new product for us but I just think a little thought and work should have gone into it.
- more work should've gone into them...yes
- they should've made some projectors in them...yes
- would the cost be under $200 with projectors...no
- is this a quick and simple way to make $ for the manufacturers..yes
how many members would REALLY buy these headlights with projectors if they were $250 bucks (cheap projectors). the market for these and any 3rd gen performance/aftermarket parts will be LOW. how many if you guys honestly would buy projector headlights if they were $250+? manufacturing and tooling cost will not make it worth while for a company to make projectors in the housings.
michael...true i would not run these headlights as is. pattern is total crap and it'll be another coleman lantern..just cleaner looking glass/lense but it's just another alternative. who knows...if people are REALLY asking for projectors then maybe the companies will make them...but for now this is what we have. i highly doubt any company will put that much effort into making parts for 3rd gens.
- they should've made some projectors in them...yes
- would the cost be under $200 with projectors...no
- is this a quick and simple way to make $ for the manufacturers..yes
how many members would REALLY buy these headlights with projectors if they were $250 bucks (cheap projectors). the market for these and any 3rd gen performance/aftermarket parts will be LOW. how many if you guys honestly would buy projector headlights if they were $250+? manufacturing and tooling cost will not make it worth while for a company to make projectors in the housings.
michael...true i would not run these headlights as is. pattern is total crap and it'll be another coleman lantern..just cleaner looking glass/lense but it's just another alternative. who knows...if people are REALLY asking for projectors then maybe the companies will make them...but for now this is what we have. i highly doubt any company will put that much effort into making parts for 3rd gens.
Originally Posted by DanNY
- more work should've gone into them...yes
- they should've made some projectors in them...yes
- would the cost be under $200 with projectors...no
- is this a quick and simple way to make $ for the manufacturers..yes
how many members would REALLY buy these headlights with projectors if they were $250 bucks (cheap projectors). the market for these and any 3rd gen performance/aftermarket parts will be LOW. how many if you guys honestly would buy projector headlights if they were $250+? manufacturing and tooling cost will not make it worth while for a company to make projectors in the housings.
michael...true i would not run these headlights as is. pattern is total crap and it'll be another coleman lantern..just cleaner looking glass/lense but it's just another alternative. who knows...if people are REALLY asking for projectors then maybe the companies will make them...but for now this is what we have. i highly doubt any company will put that much effort into making parts for 3rd gens.
- they should've made some projectors in them...yes
- would the cost be under $200 with projectors...no
- is this a quick and simple way to make $ for the manufacturers..yes
how many members would REALLY buy these headlights with projectors if they were $250 bucks (cheap projectors). the market for these and any 3rd gen performance/aftermarket parts will be LOW. how many if you guys honestly would buy projector headlights if they were $250+? manufacturing and tooling cost will not make it worth while for a company to make projectors in the housings.
michael...true i would not run these headlights as is. pattern is total crap and it'll be another coleman lantern..just cleaner looking glass/lense but it's just another alternative. who knows...if people are REALLY asking for projectors then maybe the companies will make them...but for now this is what we have. i highly doubt any company will put that much effort into making parts for 3rd gens.
I just wanted to make clear that I wasnt complaining about the lights but pointing out legitimate concerns about the pattern and over all look.
Like I said I will probably buy a set as well just to use the lens (thats a pretty expensive lens though) for either my BMW projectors or my other projectors I put in my stock housing (but never finished).
Originally Posted by Michael
I agree about the projectors and cost but I didnt mention projectors (others did I know). How much harder is it to make them diamond cut with an H4 bulb? Thats a pretty common way of making lights. I think you could make diamond cut H4 headlights for less than $200 and I know people would buy them because they would look good and function 10X better than what we have.
I just wanted to make clear that I wasnt complaining about the lights but pointing out legitimate concerns about the pattern and over all look.
Like I said I will probably buy a set as well just to use the lens (thats a pretty expensive lens though) for either my BMW projectors or my other projectors I put in my stock housing (but never finished).
I just wanted to make clear that I wasnt complaining about the lights but pointing out legitimate concerns about the pattern and over all look.
Like I said I will probably buy a set as well just to use the lens (thats a pretty expensive lens though) for either my BMW projectors or my other projectors I put in my stock housing (but never finished).
Originally Posted by chay2263
You need to try and make some altezza tail lights for the 3rd generation. That's what we need.
Go buy a 4th gen,then go the 4th gen forum..Ricey/gay altezzas are widely accepted there...
i like the idea of retro fitting bmw lights or a projector setup.
these lights may not be that great but it's something new for us so no one should be b!tching. really, when's the last time something new came out for a 3rd gen?
these lights may not be that great but it's something new for us so no one should be b!tching. really, when's the last time something new came out for a 3rd gen?
They should definentely consider making some clear corners or Euro ones that would match those lights better. The best thing they could make would be a whole single piece assembly, like "therealgoon9's" with some H4's or even projectors. That would be worth it.
bout damn time they started down this road! time to start saving!! I've wanted something like the AE headlamps - but would definately like better function! Maybe they'll take some of everyone advise and inprove the functionality of these lamps by the time I can purchase...
... and altezza's suck! but to each his own...
... and altezza's suck! but to each his own...
Originally Posted by Michael
Heck the one thing I really like about the car is you can do little things to it yourself that takes a little work and thought instead of just bolting something on that everyone with a little money can do.
They should definentely consider making some clear corners or Euro ones that would match those lights better. The best thing they could make would be a whole single piece assembly, like "therealgoon9's" with some H4's or even projectors. That would be worth it.
I dont think this will ever happen for the 3rd gens though, too much design and manufacturing work for too small a market.
Originally Posted by -shock211-
i like the idea of retro fitting bmw lights or a projector setup.
these lights may not be that great but it's something new for us so no one should be b!tching. really, when's the last time something new came out for a 3rd gen?
these lights may not be that great but it's something new for us so no one should be b!tching. really, when's the last time something new came out for a 3rd gen?
Originally Posted by chay2263
You need to try and make some altezza tail lights for the 3rd generation. That's what we need.
As for the lights, you can't say that they (CE) aren't trying - albiet not hard enuff, from what everyone is saying thus far. I'd probably get them, if but to do what DanNY and Mike are suggesting. That would TOTALLY eliminate the whole "let's-mold-clear-lenses-to-BMW-housings" method. Still, you don't see anyone else putting something aftermarket out there for a 12+ year old car - certain Honda's excluded.
the "NEW" product sounds SWEET, except everyone's bashing on it and saying there gonna totally suck, now i havent been around to know all the "cool" things and what not. i was all for this product because you dont see after market headlight assemblies for our cars, and it was a great idea but i guess it fell through. what im trying to say here is that i would like to see the new product installed and how effective the lighting is (since everyone is bashing on it and i still dont know what that lantern thing is about) versus the projector lights of an E36 conversion
also im guessing the stock headlights dont suck that bad i mean... they're the legal standard since they came out of the factory like that
IMO i think they'd look sweet smoked out or tinted
also im guessing the stock headlights dont suck that bad i mean... they're the legal standard since they came out of the factory like that
IMO i think they'd look sweet smoked out or tinted
Originally Posted by nubiannupe
you don't see anyone else putting something aftermarket out there for a 12+ year old car - certain Honda's excluded. 

it don't have so much to do with the year more so the popularity of that make and model. i mean if a 69 gremlin became the most popular car all of of a sudden company's would flood the market with stuff for it
Originally Posted by xx-Marshall-xx
(i still dont know what that lantern thing is about)
also im guessing the stock headlights dont suck that bad i mean... they're the legal standard since they came out of the factory like that
also im guessing the stock headlights dont suck that bad i mean... they're the legal standard since they came out of the factory like that
i think i have the only 3rd gen in this area that is in fairly decent condition, let alone e36 headlights. its awesome when the guys with the h22 civic hatchbacks that do 8.5 secs at the 1/8th mile and their friends are trying to figure out wtf youre driving when they see you at taco bell.
if output is the problem, then the 9007 conversion with the "high as low beam switch" is best for the money and definitely least time consuming. i had the bmw conversion on my old max (RIP) which maybe even had less output though it did look better.
nice product though, definitely good for those who plan to use projectors.
nice product though, definitely good for those who plan to use projectors.
Pretty friggin interesting.
This would totally be the way to go. Just like Dan said, ditch the rest of the lights, keep the clear Maxima contoured housing. Perfect for BMW type conversions and not have to have a plastic lense that will yellow or crack.
Anybody actually receive them yet?
This would totally be the way to go. Just like Dan said, ditch the rest of the lights, keep the clear Maxima contoured housing. Perfect for BMW type conversions and not have to have a plastic lense that will yellow or crack.
Anybody actually receive them yet?
Is that clear lens made to fit the 3rd Gen light assembly?
I want to buy some custom-made E36 lights with the CCFL halos in super white, with the twin HID's in there. Anyone selling those?
I could probably fit 3 HID bulbs within each assembly, but I would have to engineer the rear out of FRP from my supplier. Im sure he could do it, but as far as the reflective plastic for a triple-Beam.. hmmm. I actually am designing a projection casing that would direct the beams far forward. Adjustable spread and direction. No testing yet. I could provide a sketch if someone can judge it for merit.
I can probably do the rear assembly for the headlight easy, so that it interfaces with the clear lenses. What you guys think, 2 high beams one low in each light?
I want to buy some custom-made E36 lights with the CCFL halos in super white, with the twin HID's in there. Anyone selling those?
I could probably fit 3 HID bulbs within each assembly, but I would have to engineer the rear out of FRP from my supplier. Im sure he could do it, but as far as the reflective plastic for a triple-Beam.. hmmm. I actually am designing a projection casing that would direct the beams far forward. Adjustable spread and direction. No testing yet. I could provide a sketch if someone can judge it for merit.
I can probably do the rear assembly for the headlight easy, so that it interfaces with the clear lenses. What you guys think, 2 high beams one low in each light?




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