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Old 08-17-2006 | 08:49 PM
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Question about difficulty of swapping

I just recently decided that im gonna keep my 90 max and do the ve swap, does any one have links to threads about write ups, ect ect... all help is greatly appreciated
Old 08-17-2006 | 09:15 PM
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the closest anyone has gotten is vanskaterfreak and he gave up after it turned into a wirey mess.
Old 08-17-2006 | 09:37 PM
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the thing is, a VE and VG aren't really much different in price to the general public.

You would save yourself much headache by selling your car and hunting around for a good price on a VE.

It is a LOT of work, since you have to swap the wiring harness, plus a bunch of other stuff.
Old 08-17-2006 | 09:44 PM
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if you have both cars to work with then it shouldnt be too bad. You just have to get the entire wiring harness, ECU, Hubs, axles, motor and trans mounts etc.

There is no write up so if you need one to do this (ie not a person that can figure out stuff without a write up etc) then dont attempt this. If you are good at figuring out stuff yourself then go for it and do a write up for the guys who cant figure it out.

Good luck if you try it...I would actually like to see someone do this and get it running...though most will say its not worth it and to just sell your car and buy a VE car but if you really like your car and its mint then why not give it a try.
Old 08-18-2006 | 07:49 PM
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thats really what i wanted to do was just buy a ve but around here in oh ppl want way to much for them and thts wit high miles ect ect.

my car was at one time in really good condition till it got broke into three times and then the driver side fender got smashed up by a drive off in a parking lot.

while doing the swap is something i think i can accomplish ( i never use manuals when i work on my car) i think im starting to see that this can get very expensive very fast since i was planning on changing clutch and flywheel while i had it out.... so i guess my search continues for a ve or maybe ill even just swap a vg at this point who knows but thanks for the pointers
Old 08-18-2006 | 09:58 PM
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too bad you are so far away. Mine is for sale...

Nice VE that no one wants to buy
Old 08-19-2006 | 02:47 PM
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yea urs was the first i saw and of course id buy it no problem but like u said ur wayyyy to far away
Old 08-19-2006 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpp85
yea urs was the first i saw and of course id buy it no problem but like u said ur wayyyy to far away
Mine isnt too far away and may be for sale when I am finished. It will not be cheap but not overpriced as well considering all the new stuff (including paint) I will have on it.

If you want you can PM me for a list of mods plus price. I am not advertising it because I am not 100% sure I am selling and also because I am not finished yet.
Old 08-22-2006 | 08:41 PM
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Despite any distance, you can fly down and drive the car back for cheaper than you could do the swap that you are proposing. It would also be more emediate as well. IMHO: Trying to swap a VE into a VG is pointless and borders insanity. It makes sense if we are talking about a rare engine and you've lucked across one and parts to do the swap into your car. But, we're not. We're talking about spending thousands of dollars and hours to create something you can buy with patience or going out of state. Do the swap, and you'll have nothing gained but the ability to say you did it. If that's the kind of gratification you want, I'll dub you with the honorary VE to VG swap award....now go buy one!
Old 08-22-2006 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin
the thing is, a VE and VG aren't really much different in price to the general public.

You would save yourself much headache by selling your car and hunting around for a good price on a VE.

It is a LOT of work, since you have to swap the wiring harness, plus a bunch of other stuff.
This statement is entirely true and is without question the one thing that all hardcore VE/VG enthusiasts could always agree on.

My opinion based on lots of work with both cars.
Old 08-23-2006 | 08:08 AM
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Talk to Vansskaterfreak. He tried exactly what you're talking about. Either he learned alot and can guide you as far as he got or he'll convince you not to do it. Listen to his story, then decide if you really want to try this.
Old 08-25-2006 | 09:34 AM
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i listed to his whole story as he tried it thru post, but i petty much decided im judt gonna finda half way decent VE...thanks guys
Old 08-25-2006 | 10:51 AM
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yeah man just buy one and don't spend money on swappin' a VE into the VG body. i have tried to attempt this a long a$$ time ago and in the end it ain't worth it. if u really like ur car and want to mod it even more just boost the motor and be done with it. or just sell it and buy the VE. i was even gonna attempt the VQ swap since a member on here made it possible but i also got past that. findin the VQ engine ain't the problem but findin' an LSD tranny from a 4th gen is a problem. then fabbin' a plate for the tranny to bolt up to the 5th gen VQ block. on top of that doin' the wirin'. then modifyin' the crossmember, mounts, and axles. the guy did a nice job and the car is runnin' but its too much money and work to make it possible. he claimed that it took him about 3 months to finish everything up and makin' the car run to spec.
Old 08-25-2006 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GRNMAXDMON
findin the VQ engine ain't the problem but findin' an LSD tranny from a 4th gen is a problem. then fabbin' a plate for the tranny to bolt up to the 5th gen VQ block.=.
no need for an adapter AFAIK VQs all use the same bolt pattern.
also the I30t came with LSD, and the automatics are the same as a VE, but different bellhousings.
Old 08-25-2006 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
no need for an adapter AFAIK VQs all use the same bolt pattern.
also the I30t came with LSD, and the automatics are the same as a VE, but different bellhousings.
then what the he!! was that guy talkin' about fabbin' up a tranny plate??? all that work for nothing .
Old 08-29-2006 | 12:42 AM
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I'd still be interested in what it was that stopped people who tried from completing the swap. I never saw vans original thread. Anyone care to elaborate? Is there something beyond having the key components, as Michael suggested, entire wiring harness, ECU, Hubs, axles, motor and trans mounts, that isn't being considered? What pitfalls did those that tried encounter along the way?
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