View Poll Results: What vehicle are you considering?
Another Max of course, but 4th gen!



17
13.39%
Another Max of course, but 5th gen!



26
20.47%
Another Max of course, but 6th gen!



20
15.75%
Another import



58
45.67%
Domestic



6
4.72%
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As life of our beloved 3d gens coming to an end...
Originally Posted by shavedmax
you cant compare a muscle car to a 4 door grocery getter. look up pricing on any 61-64 impala. drop top is big$ followed by ss's them impala 2 doors, impala 4 doors, then wagons, then beairs and biscaynes. where you can get 50g's for a fully restored 64 drop top, a fully restored 4 door impala may only score you 5g's. be real, how many joe-schmo cars do you see from the 60's and 70's? how much do you think a 4 door chevele goes for. sure as **** not as much as a 2 door matching number ss. maximas are only going to be worth $ if there's some idiot out there willing to pay for it.
happy halloween
happy halloweenI have a friend that has a 64 Chevelle wagon that is pretty nice and he only wants 3500 for it. If it were a 2 door wagon I might think about it...well even as a 4 door it would look pretty sweet with an air ride and 20s
...plus I could haul my whole family around. Then again with my 66 2 door I still have plenty of room in the back of that thing to haul my two older and one infant (on the way) without any problems.
Originally Posted by Michael
yeah...I have had a couple of people offer me a pretty good amount for just my shell and its just a malibu (although a nice optioned malibu with air, power steering and brakes and a 327) and not an SS. Heck I have had some offer me 3-4K for just my parts cars (also 2 door 66 malibus). When I was 16 or so (way back in '88) there was a guy that had two wrecked 66s. One was a true SS that still had the 396/4spd and he only wanted $500 for both. I couldnt talk my dad into getting them and I didnt have any money at the time...man I wish I could have gotten them. Of course I dont want to even think about the 68 Firebird my dad passed up when we were looking for another car (after I flipped my 69 and before I bought my 66). I really wish we would have gotten that car as well but when we drove it he had it to the floor and it was only going about 10mph and smoke was pouring out the tail pipes. Still we had a motor we could have put in it...thats it now I am aggrivated all over again about not getting all those cars back then lol.
I have a friend that has a 64 Chevelle wagon that is pretty nice and he only wants 3500 for it. If it were a 2 door wagon I might think about it...well even as a 4 door it would look pretty sweet with an air ride and 20s
...plus I could haul my whole family around. Then again with my 66 2 door I still have plenty of room in the back of that thing to haul my two older and one infant (on the way) without any problems.
I have a friend that has a 64 Chevelle wagon that is pretty nice and he only wants 3500 for it. If it were a 2 door wagon I might think about it...well even as a 4 door it would look pretty sweet with an air ride and 20s
...plus I could haul my whole family around. Then again with my 66 2 door I still have plenty of room in the back of that thing to haul my two older and one infant (on the way) without any problems.69 ,70, 71 camaros
several el caminos.
ah the days when they were $500 beaters and no one gave a funk
Originally Posted by shavedmax
if you'll be willing to pay 30k for a 3rd gen in 30 yrs god bless ya. ill be flying my rocket ship by then
How about thinking for a minute or two. Try anyway. Of all the cars that have greatly increased in value and are desirable now, what percent of these are 4-doors? Now FWDs have been out since the 70s. Plenty of time for anything of that vintage to become "desirable". Now how many FWDs can you think of are actually worth 2 cents? Got some in mind? Now combine the two. How many FWD 4-doors with so-so power are actually worth anything?
I wish you luck my friend.
I wish you luck my friend.
Originally Posted by VEvolution
I don't see why # of doors matters to a collector 

yeah, I agree with Jeff.
My car was in a car collector magazine and no one will give me **** for it.
It is basically the best version of the best car (VE 5-speed with leather) in excellent condition with some performance modifications that could easily be replaced back to stock.
It isn't worth as much as a bone stock 92 base model 240sx in excellent condition with the same miles.
My car was in a car collector magazine and no one will give me **** for it.
It is basically the best version of the best car (VE 5-speed with leather) in excellent condition with some performance modifications that could easily be replaced back to stock.
It isn't worth as much as a bone stock 92 base model 240sx in excellent condition with the same miles.
Originally Posted by internetautomar
because 2 doors are sportier.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
How about thinking for a minute or two. Try anyway. Of all the cars that have greatly increased in value and are desirable now, what percent of these are 4-doors? Now FWDs have been out since the 70s. Plenty of time for anything of that vintage to become "desirable". Now how many FWDs can you think of are actually worth 2 cents? Got some in mind? Now combine the two. How many FWD 4-doors with so-so power are actually worth anything?
I wish you luck my friend.
I wish you luck my friend.

Oh, and thanks for the respect Jeff
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
So if times have changed, please give some examples. Earn my respect here.
It should be enough that cars just aren't built the way they use to be, and if you havn't noticed the sports cars died out at the end of the 90's to make way for the all new sports sedan craze.. I think these "two doors" are only creeping back now, slowly. Even Mazda added a 3rd door for their RX8 to seem a bit more neutral.. Toyota still doesn't have a Supra replacement, and Mitsubishi's top performer is a four door rocket.. Do I need to say more?
Originally Posted by VEvolution
I was generally speaking.. You really need examples for that? 

It should be enough that cars just aren't built the way they use to be, and if you havn't noticed the sports cars died out at the end of the 90's to make way for the all new sports sedan craze..
I think these "two doors" are only creeping back now, slowly. Even Mazda added a 3rd door for their RX8 to seem a bit more neutral.. Toyota still doesn't have a Supra replacement, and Mitsubishi's top performer is a four door rocket.. Do I need to say more?
Why don't you answer my question on why sports sedans are more popular then the 2 door cars nowadays? They didn't make em' this fast and good looking many years back. They were just grocery getters like someone here mentioned. They are much more then that today. Just look at the M5.. You think that won't be a classic someday?
Orginally, I did say 30 years from now, didn't I?
Oh yeah, I remember reading that somewhere. So why couldn't they just make them cheaper like they are today? Why come out with sports sedans? Im sure it wasn't only based off that.
Apparently you didn't read mine.. But no matter. Judging by your posts, you seem to think it's gonna be the same 30 years from now. Im pretty sure it won't be, but thats just a hunch.
Also you mentioning our 3rd gen.. I think it actually can be a classic just because of the VE. Only in that one car for 3 years. Or maybe it's good looks?
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Yes, give me general examples. Like I said fwd 4-doors have been around since the 70s. Where are the classic examples???
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Incorrect. The mega buck sports cars died because they were too damned expensive. No one was buying them after the 80's economy boom. It was NOT to make room for anything.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Um while I'll agree that the STI and EVO stand a good chance at being a classic and actually increasing in value after it bottoms out once, these aren't ANYTHING like your maxima now is it? Did you not read my first reply??
Also you mentioning our 3rd gen.. I think it actually can be a classic just because of the VE. Only in that one car for 3 years. Or maybe it's good looks?
Um your original contention was the MAXIMA was going to be worth alot of money someday. STI/EVO/M5 while 4-doors are NOTHING like the maxima. And nothing historically supports the maxima ever being worth any considerable amount. If you base your logic on what you think the STI/EVO/M5, will be, you are in for a rude awakening.
Again, I wish you luck. IMHO you have NO concept of economy or the classic car market.
But it would be extremely funny to see you try to maintain an almost zero mile MINT maxima for 30 years and then try to sell it.
Again, I wish you luck. IMHO you have NO concept of economy or the classic car market.
But it would be extremely funny to see you try to maintain an almost zero mile MINT maxima for 30 years and then try to sell it.
Originally Posted by VEvolution
Why don't you answer my question on why sports sedans are more popular then the 2 door cars nowadays? They didn't make em' this fast and good looking many years back. They were just grocery getters like someone here mentioned. They are much more then that today. Just look at the M5.. You think that won't be a classic someday?
Orginally, I did say 30 years from now, didn't I?
Oh yeah, I remember reading that somewhere. So why couldn't they just make them cheaper like they are today? Why come out with sports sedans? Im sure it wasn't only based off that.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Um your original contention was the MAXIMA was going to be worth alot of money someday. STI/EVO/M5 while 4-doors are NOTHING like the maxima. And nothing historically supports the maxima ever being worth any considerable amount. If you base your logic on what you think the STI/EVO/M5, will be, you are in for a rude awakening.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Again, I wish you luck. IMHO you have NO concept of economy or the classic car market.

Originally Posted by Jeff92se
But it would be extremely funny to see you try to maintain an almost zero mile MINT maxima for 30 years and then try to sell it. 

Originally Posted by VEvolution
I never said alot.. And I never said everyone would be looking for these cars. Maybe just a handful. The VE engine supports it historically. There..
Says who?
So does that mean you agree? Your talking as if you've already been there
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Because it's no required to illustrate my point. Why waste time/
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
History repeats itself. Maxima has NONE. Won't have any either.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Says all your posts on the subject
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Not it does not. An engine only used for a few years, a classic it does not make.
Um, yeah. I'm talking about maximas not ever being worth crap so I just got done maintaining mine for 30 years. Even though mine was a 1992 and it's 30 years later here in 2022.

Um, yeah. I'm talking about maximas not ever being worth crap so I just got done maintaining mine for 30 years. Even though mine was a 1992 and it's 30 years later here in 2022.

Originally Posted by VEvolution
Because it's required to illustrate my point.. So times do change afterall then.
Not always.. Don't be ignorant.
Really? Like what. Give an example that would lead us to believe that a so-so powered, FWD family hauler with no real performance statistics or racing history is going to have any historical/monetary value over and above all the other FWD, 4-door family cars
Originally Posted by VEvolution
Since when are you the expert?
Nothing you are saying is backed up by anything unless you have the uncanny ability to see into the future.
History and logic is backing me. What is backing you?
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
M5/evo/sti does NOT help illustrate your point in the least. Sorry
Originally Posted by VEvolution
Do I have to start naming all of them for you to get the point? Look at any company and see if they offer a sports sedan.. How many back then offered sports sedans?
I
don't really have time to keep playing ping pong here with you, but a simple answer: Times do change if you havn't noticed
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Not saying the 4DSC will be anything special
but Im sure there will be somebody out there looking to pay a decent amount for it.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
No. But how about even one or two? So far you have provided NONE
3 series, TSX, TL, G35, IS, Maxima, Altima SE-R, Mazda 3/6, huge etc. whats the point of this again?
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Times change. Logic and commen sense do not.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
So you recommend everyone to maintain their mint low miler for 30 years for that ONE somebody who has some odd maxima fetish? Again, ANY car falls into that category. That makes the maxima neither a classic or valuable in the terms we are talking about.
And you keep missing the VE fact. Don't all of you stand by the VE saying it was way ahead of it's time, this and that? Plus it was only in a very attractive sedan. Come on, you can't seriosly sit here and tell me you don't even have the slightest doubt that maybe many decades from now, cars like these will be worth something?
Originally Posted by VEvolution
3 series, TSX, TL, G35, IS, Maxima, Mazda 3/6, huge etc. whats the point of this again?
The logic changes with times.
As some have mentioned before, owners of many classics never thought they would be classics.
And you keep missing the VE fact. Don't all of you stand by the VE saying it was way ahead of it's time, this and that? Plus it was only in a very attractive sedan. Come on, you can't seriosly sit here and tell me you don't even have the slightest doubt that maybe many decades from now, cars like these will be worth something?
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
None of which have increased in value. None are considered classics in any sense of the word.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Let's take the 5 series. The 5 series came out in 1972. It's even rwd and has the BMW marque behind it. It's now 34 years old. Worth how much again? That's right
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Logic and common sense do not.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Such as? What kind of FWD 4-door has accomplished this? I keep asking and you keep avoiding. 

Originally Posted by Jeff92se
They are good cars. Not great cars. PERIOD.
[QUOTE=VEvolution]
My guess would be, cause the one from back then looks like crap?
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will you two stop this multi post responding, it makes it hard to follow the point............................................
you honestly think anyone is going to look at a 3rd gen in 30 years and say, wow what a sexy car. i bet i can pick up tons of chicks if i had that rotted out 4 door hunk o junk.
it's called a sport sedan because car companies want to sell more of them, NOT because it actually is a sports car. nice car, yes, but not a sports car. cars that become classics and collectible HISTORICALLY are the sports cars of the era. i personally think the general lee is a horrible looking car, late 60's impalas are big ugly boats(if fact, i only like the early impalas as lowriders, i think they look hideous as muscle cars) but it's what that generation customized and drove.
the majority of the 90's generation will either be known for rice burnin' civics, accords and integras(all offered as 2 and 4 doors!)
or camaros, firebirds, mustangs, 300z's, 3000gt's, eclipses, nsx's.
i highly doubt to see many civics or integras of the 90's being considered collectible on 30 years...................but i see them way ahead of the line of a 90 maxima.
next time you go to a car show look around, 75% of that will be what that generation will want to buy and relive 30 yrs from now. i dont see too many maximas in the mix.
My guess would be, cause the one from back then looks like crap?
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will you two stop this multi post responding, it makes it hard to follow the point............................................
you honestly think anyone is going to look at a 3rd gen in 30 years and say, wow what a sexy car. i bet i can pick up tons of chicks if i had that rotted out 4 door hunk o junk.
it's called a sport sedan because car companies want to sell more of them, NOT because it actually is a sports car. nice car, yes, but not a sports car. cars that become classics and collectible HISTORICALLY are the sports cars of the era. i personally think the general lee is a horrible looking car, late 60's impalas are big ugly boats(if fact, i only like the early impalas as lowriders, i think they look hideous as muscle cars) but it's what that generation customized and drove.
the majority of the 90's generation will either be known for rice burnin' civics, accords and integras(all offered as 2 and 4 doors!)
or camaros, firebirds, mustangs, 300z's, 3000gt's, eclipses, nsx's.
i highly doubt to see many civics or integras of the 90's being considered collectible on 30 years...................but i see them way ahead of the line of a 90 maxima.
next time you go to a car show look around, 75% of that will be what that generation will want to buy and relive 30 yrs from now. i dont see too many maximas in the mix.
I think I got what your saying shaved, but I think maximas are pretty common from the 90's. Wouldn't that hold some type of place in the hearts of our generation many years from now? Even if it is just a good lookin 4 door..
Originally Posted by VEvolution
I think I got what your saying shaved, but I think maximas are pretty common from the 90's. Wouldn't that hold some type of place in the hearts of our generation many years from now? Even if it is just a good lookin 4 door..
Originally Posted by shavedmax
you me and everyone on the .org, yeah, but not the general population.
I was just thinking more of the same in greater numbers later on down the line, thats all.. Guess not
Now he gets it
Originally Posted by VEvolution
Yeah, I hear ya.. Don't know if you remember, but it's interesting to note though that somebody did pay $10k for a mint no optioned VE awhile back
I was just thinking more of the same in greater numbers later on down the line, thats all.. Guess not 
I was just thinking more of the same in greater numbers later on down the line, thats all.. Guess not 
Last edited by Pearl93VE; Apr 18, 2011 at 12:46 AM.



