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Old 10-11-2006 | 06:19 PM
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94 Nissan Maxima Shocks

All 4 of my shocks are completely or close to dead.
I want to replace them, but i like the lowish look! Not too low or too high.
Do i need to buy new KYB(or other) shocks and ask the mechanic to make it low?
Or i need a complete kit?
Does anyone here have it for sale?

Thanks
Old 10-11-2006 | 06:22 PM
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You'll need new struts and lowering springs to get the "look" your after.
Old 10-11-2006 | 07:25 PM
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If you don't want it too low you are probably going to want to get some Eibachs to go with your struts. Brian the resident parts ***** sells pretty much all you need http://www.internetautosupply.com/ . welcome to the org btw.
Old 10-12-2006 | 03:24 AM
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Welcome to the board yo.

Don’t let the posies get you down about your VG.
Old 10-12-2006 | 03:58 AM
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Thanks for the welcome guys! I'll be here a really really long time!...or probably until death do us apart!lol

i'm checking out brian's website now!
TY

the height i'm after is like N34JZ's maxima (red)
it can be seen in this post:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=495349

...how much u guys think a mechanic would probably charge to put them in? any estimates?

TY
Old 10-12-2006 | 06:45 AM
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...how much u guys think a mechanic would probably charge to put them in? any estimates?

TY
Way too much.. Want the best struts for the 3rd gen? Go for Koni
Old 10-12-2006 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by VEvolution
Way too much.. Want the best struts for the 3rd gen? Go for Koni

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT Wrong lol, IMO Tokico are the best trade off of ride and handling.


Installing them is a PITA (Pain in the A$$)
If you do it yourself you will need air tools, time, spring compressor, time, new alignment (front and back,) time, and patience.

Oh and lots of time.

I got a shade tree to do mine for the cost of spring compressors and some tools, which in hind sight he said that he would have asked for more.
Old 10-12-2006 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 89blackse
ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT Wrong lol, IMO Tokico are the best trade off of ride and handling.


Installing them is a PITA (Pain in the A$$)
If you do it yourself you will need air tools, time, spring compressor, time, new alignment (front and back,) time, and patience.

Oh and lots of time.

I got a shade tree to do mine for the cost of spring compressors and some tools, which in hind sight he said that he would have asked for more.
and you base your opinion on this from owning both or driving someone elses car with either or?

I am not arguing with you because I haven’t had either (have toks on my current car but haven’t gotten to drive it yet) but I have heard from so many that have had toks and gone to Koni and say the Koni are superior. You are the very first person to say the opposite.
Old 10-12-2006 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael
and you base your opinion on this from owning both or driving someone elses car with either or?

I am not arguing with you because I haven’t had either (have toks on my current car but haven’t gotten to drive it yet) but I have heard from so many that have had toks and gone to Koni and say the Koni are superior. You are the very first person to say the opposite.
I have two maximas, both with the same springs just different struts

One with Tokico the other with KYB GR2.

The Tokico offers the best tradeoff of ride and handling.
That being said, the KYB GR2 do handle better, but your back will be in pain all the time.

A good example is with stock spring/strut you hit a bump and you bounce like 2 times.
Tokicos you bounce once and you feel the struts "soak" up the energy of the 2nd bounce.
KYB GR2 you hit the first bump and it feels like the car never really rebounded, and you just pitch and plow into the pavement.

It depends on your taste. I like a compliant ride with decent handling.

But again, it's all subjective
Old 10-12-2006 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 89blackse
ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT Wrong lol, IMO Tokico are the best trade off of ride and handling.


Installing them is a PITA (Pain in the A$$)
If you do it yourself you will need air tools, time, spring compressor, time, new alignment (front and back,) time, and patience.

Oh and lots of time.

I got a shade tree to do mine for the cost of spring compressors and some tools, which in hind sight he said that he would have asked for more.
That's probably because they don't see how difficult the rear one are to change. You have to unbolt the entire hub/strut/caliper assembly, and take it off the car to get ot the insert that is INSIDE the strut.

I took mine to a place and they told me I had the wrong parts for the back (in fact, I was told this TWICE). There's a write-up on it I found from here that I gave to the shop that did mine, and they STILL screwed it up.

Since then, i have done it myself.
Old 10-12-2006 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 89blackse
I have two maximas, both with the same springs just different struts

One with Tokico the other with KYB GR2.

The Tokico offers the best tradeoff of ride and handling.
That being said, the KYB GR2 do handle better, but your back will be in pain all the time.

A good example is with stock spring/strut you hit a bump and you bounce like 2 times.
Tokicos you bounce once and you feel the struts "soak" up the energy of the 2nd bounce.
KYB GR2 you hit the first bump and it feels like the car never really rebounded, and you just pitch and plow into the pavement.

It depends on your taste. I like a compliant ride with decent handling.

But again, it's all subjective
Well for a Tokico and KYB owner, I don't see how you could say anything about Koni
Old 10-12-2006 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by VEvolution
Well for a Tokico and KYB owner, I don't see how you could say anything about Koni

well...you see...um....yeah you're right.

I have read that KYB is similar to Koni in terms of ride quality. But I don't have a solid foundation to call out Koni, other than I really like Tokico struts.

And onto changing the subject, did anyone cut their bump stops down as suggested by Suspension Technique?
Old 10-12-2006 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 89blackse
I have two maximas, both with the same springs just different struts

One with Tokico the other with KYB GR2.

The Tokico offers the best tradeoff of ride and handling.
That being said, the KYB GR2 do handle better, but your back will be in pain all the time.

A good example is with stock spring/strut you hit a bump and you bounce like 2 times.
Tokicos you bounce once and you feel the struts "soak" up the energy of the 2nd bounce.
KYB GR2 you hit the first bump and it feels like the car never really rebounded, and you just pitch and plow into the pavement.

It depends on your taste. I like a compliant ride with decent handling.

But again, it's all subjective
but he mentioned KONI not KYB. KONI is the far superior strut.

here is the order of struts from best to worst
1. KONI
2. Tokico
3. KYB

I think you got KONI and KYB confused.
Old 10-12-2006 | 08:22 AM
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See my previous post.
Old 10-12-2006 | 08:25 AM
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KYB= like stock ride

Tokico= Much stiffer than stock

KONI= Never had them..

The adjustability of the koni would be nice for track time vs. daily driving though..
Old 10-12-2006 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
KYB= like stock ride

Tokico= Much stiffer than stock

KONI= Never had them..

The adjustability of the koni would be nice for track time vs. daily driving though..

That may be the accepted understanding, but there is no way my KYB Maxima is anything close to stock. And both of my maximas have the same springs.
Old 10-12-2006 | 09:15 AM
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interesting guys!
so with installations, strut, spring...would it run me around $500?
i dont really want to spend too much...i have madd expense, but i tihnk very soon my lack of good shocks will start cutting my tires and in long run cost me more.

I'm not a racer, although i speed alittle

Thanks for the input guys, i really appreciate it.
Old 10-12-2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 89blackse
well...you see...um....yeah you're right.

I have read that KYB is similar to Koni in terms of ride quality. But I don't have a solid foundation to call out Koni, other than I really like Tokico struts.

And onto changing the subject, did anyone cut their bump stops down as suggested by Suspension Technique?
From what I read on experiences with all different kinds of struts on this board, Koni are the only ones that could take a seriose drop without being blown after a few thousand miles. That kinda says something about them, oh and the price.. Wouldn't ya think?
Old 10-12-2006 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 89blackse
That may be the accepted understanding, but there is no way my KYB Maxima is anything close to stock. And both of my maximas have the same springs.
I am referring to a new OEM stock strut as comapared to a new kyb..Not old stock strut to new kyb..
Old 10-12-2006 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
I am referring to a new OEM stock strut as comapared to a new kyb..Not old stock strut to new kyb..

HAHAHAAHAHAHA. Well not to pick a fight, but I had my struts replaced on the black max about 4 years before I had the tokicos installed, and they were OEM replacements.
And the Tokicos are better than blown stock, and OEM replacements. IMO.

Course my car has aged this whole time, and maybe other bits are getting softer/worn over that period of time that make the tokicos seem soft.
Old 10-12-2006 | 09:47 AM
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HAHAHAAHAHAHA. Well not to pick a fight, but I had my struts replaced on the black max about 4 years before I had the tokicos installed, and they were OEM replacements.
And the Tokicos are better than blown stock, and OEM replacements. IMO.

Course my car has aged this whole time, and maybe other bits are getting softer/worn over that period of time that make the tokicos seem soft.
BY oem,you mean nissan struts From nissan right? @$200 a piece right?
Old 10-12-2006 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
BY oem,you mean nissan struts From nissan right? @$200 a piece right?
Neg... Just OEM replacements. (I know what your reply will say )

I don't remember what the ride was like when that car was new, I was only 7 years old when my Dad brought her home.
Old 10-12-2006 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 89blackse
Neg... Just OEM replacements. (I know what your reply will say )
Old 10-12-2006 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94

I was wrong, that was way funnier...
Old 10-12-2006 | 11:45 AM
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Koni is so far superior to Tokiblows or KYB Jelly, it's difficult to even FATHOM trying to argue otherwise. I pulled my Toks off to put in Konis. 3 out of 4 were toast. At only 30-40k also.

But I see some people still ice skate uphill.
Old 10-12-2006 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Koni is so far superior to Tokiblows or KYB Jelly, it's difficult to even FATHOM trying to argue otherwise. I pulled my Toks off to put in Konis. 3 out of 4 were toast. At only 30-40k also.

But I see some people still ice skate uphill.

I got a set of Tokicos that spent about 40K on one car before spending 110K on my current car, and they are just okay to me.
Old 10-12-2006 | 05:42 PM
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Neg... Just OEM replacements. (I know what your reply will say )
Thats definatly not the same thing as Nissan OEM.
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