I may have the chance to buy either one... but I wanted to know what i'm getting into first

 

Well of course this depends on many things like the cost of the used VE trans, axles and spindles. Mileage and condition, and your ability to rebuild either trans.

Frankly, I would do whatever you can to get the VE trans. Buy the VE trans, open it up and clean it and install it. If you have trouble with it, a rebuild is cheap ($300-$800 depending on how much you can do yourself). In the long run a VE trans will hold up better/longer due to its larger internal bearings and axles. Besides, how can you pass up a LSD? One tire fire is just embarrassing, not to mention slow.

Bottom line, get the most out of your 5-speed swap and power BOTH your front wheels and unleash the full potential of that VG!

 

the price and availability are as yet unknown for the VE. the VG already-rebuilt is going to be $750 shipped. with the VE you were just saying to open and clean, but not to actually put on any new parts or what? except seals and the gasket between the two halves of the casing and whatnot.

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...2&postcount=16
i'm pretty sure that car is a VE5 (i clicked the seller's FS link a few weeks ago and i think i remember seeing it say '5speed'), and he only needs the engine, he says. That means i may be able to buy all the hardware necessary (or just pay for the car towed/shipped here from PA, and buy that car as a parts car once he's done with it) and have a full setup of VLSD5 parts. then i'd just buy a good PP and clutch, and be yet another GXE-VLSD5. I PM'd him. no response yet. he's probably asleep and then at work. i hope to hear from him tonight.

this is the VG tranny -> http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=494880

 

Really you have to ask if VLSD is really worth it. I'm not the one to ask because I dont have it, but does it really affect a non-performance oriented daily driver (if thats what you are) that much?

And is it cheaper to go with the VE tranny since its not rebuilt, even counting the axles and hubs? if it is Id go the VE route. A full rebuild isn't that big a deal as long as your not running boost. And a tranny in the 140-220K range should just need an ISB and good fluid any way.

Heck if you want Id sell you my VG tranny (cheap) if I get another. You just need a ISB.

~Alex

 

it's not performance oriented, no. Sure i want to do a bunch of the typical mods (WSP ypipe, struts, tower bar, hai/cai, rear disc + better brakes all around, etc), but the function of this car is to get me to and from college and work every day for the next 4-6 years. And I've always wanted to have a stickshift, and once I found the Org, I learned that my car was a fairly easy swap with a few tools, a good jack, some patience, and an extra pair of hands. No, the VLSD is not absolutely necessary, and I could just as soon add another option on the poll to say "Used VG tranny" if i actually knew what price would come with each part mentioned.

Now, if I get the VE one, I'd probably end up with a full parts car, minus the engine that was in it (an org member is buying a VE5 parts car for the engine, then I'd buy it off him for a thus reduced price after he got his swap-engine out of it). But hopefully he'd leave me behind the bolts and the spacer plate, to put onto my engine, and of course the hydraulics, clutch pedal, OEM narrow brake pedal (no cutting!), tranny mounts, tranny, axles, hubs, shifter and all would be on one neat little package for my taking.

So the total cost for that would be...the cost of the parts car, plus the cost to get it sent to me, plus a few necessary fixup parts (ISB and oil seals, and whatever gaskets may be needed... i'll make sure i know exactly before I do any work). It would be from PA to NC, so does anyone know how much it would be to get a non-running car from PA to NC?

 

Cost if done yourself would be food, gas, and any rest stops you would have to take. Otherwise, I know some guys who transport cars between states, it just simply depends on mileage but usually runs about $2-300. Of course, they tend to move several cars at one time. So, like UPS (with packages), they can charge a lower price per car yet still profit.

I picked a car up in Atlanta one time, I'm in upper East TN. Cost me $200 in gas and food to haul it myself on a dolly. It was no more than a two or three hour drive one way.

IMO: If you have ability, go with the VE. I've had both VG/VE trannies on stock as well as modified Max's. Even stock, you get better traction which equates to increased acceleration with the VLSD. On a modified engine, I think the VLSD is a must.

 

well the dude has me a bit confused about what's going on with the cars. i'll tell you what he says when he PMs me back again. i think he's got like 3 3rd gens so i'm kindof confused what car he's talking about when...

the odds of me being able to pick the ar up myself, are almost nonexistant. i'm not hauling ANYTHING with my maxima. and I have never driven a large vehicle (Unless a Mercedes-Benz ML350 counts) nor would I want to drive a large vehicle my first time ever on I-95 (it's suidice enough as it is), plus gas has gone way up recently.

 

VG trannies are teh worst.

 

Whatever you do, dont get Alex V's tranny if he gets another one, his car only has 117 WHP! I'm just messin with you two beside my car probably has the same amount of whp

 

ha not mine its way more powerful then both of yours....

the wing adds 5 extra whp hahaha

 

And yet John still out ran you from a stop.

I may have 117 WHP but I make 90% of peak TQ at idle

~Alex

 

ha that waz with a bad auto tranny..

 

excuses lol.....mine was bad too, i just got it from shop a couple days ago

 

lol well went i get my maxima goin we will have to test the theory again...

 

unfortunately i can't buy either right now. the money situation is a bit more grim that i'd expected, so i can't even do the swap for the forseeable future. well, unless my current tranmission dies but i'd rather that one guy get it on the org here since he needs a working a/t, but i can't sell my a/t until i have an m/t...

 

I have the same dilemma...my VG M/T is making noises indicating a worn-out bearing. A local guy will rebuild it for $500. If I buy a used VE M/T, I wouldn't know its history, if the ISB is good or bad, I would have to deal with the headache of hybriding the axles, possibly mess with the pilot bushing, replace seals, and I still wouldn't have any guarantee that it would work reliably for any amount of time...not to mention I'm still looking at like $400 for that unit.

I'm all for VLSD, but I'm not putting out enough power for it to matter that much, the car still gets put away in the winter, so traction on snow isn't an issue, and I really don't feel like dealing with any extra hassle...I just want to drop it out, have it rebuilt, put it back in, and keep driving (before Maxus)...

 

Maxitech;If you can do a 5 speed swap,then imo you can replace the isb also...

 

Yes, Wayne, I'm sure I could...but I don't have the time or resources to be d!cking around with another tranny right now...I want as little hassle as possible...

Tell ya what, if someone comes across a ridiculously good deal on an LSD and they want to hook me up with it and I can somehow obtain the unit in the month of May, I'm game...

 

yeah, i know VLSD is really good to have. but then again i'm running a stock VG and generally drive pretty gently. And it hasn't snowed impressively since 2005 in my area of the state.

 

Pfff, I got imaginary VLSD FTW

 

....your using LSD again aren't you?

~Alex

 

OK, I'm leaning towards buying a VLSD again...

 

I got one for 200 off ebay with 90k on it.. Gonna be installing it sunday

 

You should just sell it to me and buy a Yaris...

 

lol naw the yaris is a car I rather cruise in a sporty car

 

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