when if ever shold the timing chain be swaped
05-25-2007, 07:24 PM
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Now don't that get you thinkin I mean timing belt have to get changed at a minimium of 60,000 miles, chains can't be that much more efective that alone can be the cause of vtc's wear? speaking for myself I replaced my vtc's at 170,000 miles but not the chain.by the way with new nissan spec one's almost 800 dollars for the set,but from my experience it better to spend a little extra then to save at the time of the repair,and spend later again for the same problem.
05-25-2007, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by maximusve92
Now don't that get you thinkin I mean timing belt have to get changed at a minimium of 60,000 miles, chains can't be that much more efective that alone can be the cause of vtc's wear? speaking for myself I replaced my vtc's at 170,000 miles but not the chain.by the way with new nissan spec one's almost 800 dollars for the set,but from my experience it better to spend a little extra then to save at the time of the repair,and spend later again for the same problem.
I hear ya, I'm wondering the same for my truck... The ka24 in it has a timing chain.
05-25-2007, 07:40 PM
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But the KA is 1/8th the price so its actually feasible to change it. Id say under 200K and you wont even need to think about replacing it, and above that if you have the money why not. Shouldn't hurt either way.
The problem with belts is they continuously flex. And rubber breaks down. A metal chain has oil splashed on it, and has joints that pivot in oil, so it hardly wears at all. The metal will only stretch a little.
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The problem with belts is they continuously flex. And rubber breaks down. A metal chain has oil splashed on it, and has joints that pivot in oil, so it hardly wears at all. The metal will only stretch a little.
~Alex
05-25-2007, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex_V
But the KA is 1/8th the price so its actually feasible to change it. Id say under 200K and you wont even need to think about replacing it, and above that if you have the money why not. Shouldn't hurt either way.
The problem with belts is they continuously flex. And rubber breaks down. A metal chain has oil splashed on it, and has joints that pivot in oil, so it hardly wears at all. The metal will only stretch a little.
~Alex
The problem with belts is they continuously flex. And rubber breaks down. A metal chain has oil splashed on it, and has joints that pivot in oil, so it hardly wears at all. The metal will only stretch a little.
~Alex
Don't take my opinion, Alex knows his ****. -We don't need no stinking tranny dust covers.
I know I won't wait till 200k till I change my chain. Maybe 150k at the most.
05-25-2007, 08:09 PM
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this has nothing 2 do w/timing chains,but i have been looking to see if anyone has experianced their gauge panel on their dash locking up? i have a 99 se and all the guages will lock up. took to dealership when lock up they took dash out check all wiring found nothing. notice it seemed to do it when it is 80+ degrees. anyhelp would very helpful. thanks. this must no b a very common prob. because my dealer couldnt find anything.
05-25-2007, 08:15 PM
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I have only heard of 1 VE chain going and that was after it was replaced. I would say due to the number of current high milage VE's without issues and the fact that Nissan has no maintance recomendation(that I am aware of) this is a non-issue. I would just suggest replacing the tensioners because those help prevent rattle in the chain. Besides, to do the chain you have to pull the lower cover, so between that and the cost of the chain why not just swap in a new VE?
05-25-2007, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by goon9
Don't take my opinion, Alex knows his ****. -We don't need no stinking tranny dust covers.
I know I won't wait till 200k till I change my chain. Maybe 150k at the most.
I know I won't wait till 200k till I change my chain. Maybe 150k at the most.
~Alex
05-26-2007, 07:56 PM
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on ALL the cars I've owned we've only replaced timing chains twice and neither one needed it done.
one we did as preventative maintenance , the other because we were into the motor that far anyways.
one we did as preventative maintenance , the other because we were into the motor that far anyways.
05-26-2007, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
The chains might last forever but a lot of times the tensioners do not.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=519135
05-26-2007, 11:24 PM
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Yep, you guys talking tensioners are right on. I've seen 2 high mileage tensioner failures that take out the corresponding head. I've not seen a failure where it seems to be the chain that caused the issue. Both the failures I witnessed were in the 170K's
If anybody in the 100's are doing VTC's, it might be worth it to inspect the tensioner pads and replace if they are significantly worn. Its easy to do as they are out for the VTC job anyway.
If anybody in the 100's are doing VTC's, it might be worth it to inspect the tensioner pads and replace if they are significantly worn. Its easy to do as they are out for the VTC job anyway.
05-27-2007, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by maximusve92
so the bottom line, change the tensioners and vtc's. (having a hard time located a pair of new vtc's)(mygreenmax94 true test of time! keep it going!!!
The vtc's are typically rebuilt,not replaced..The rebuild kits can be had at the dealership for about $50 per vtc..
New vtc assemblies are major $$$ [about $450 per assembly]
05-27-2007, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
The vtc's are typically rebuilt,not replaced..The rebuild kits can be had at the dealership for about $50 per vtc..
New vtc assemblies are major $$$ [about $450 per assembly]
New vtc assemblies are major $$$ [about $450 per assembly]
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05-28-2007, 11:47 AM
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found this chain for a dohc
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