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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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That looks impressive, can't wait to see what it can do.
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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You completely redesigned the entire IM! It looks awesome!

But the VG Phenolic Intake Spacer Kit only includes a spacer for the dual duct, TB, and IACV.

You need a spacer between the IM plate and LIM. That will help a lot!

ill send you a pic, but i used the botom stock peice, ... ill shoot up some pics
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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ill send you a pic, but i used the botom stock peice, ... ill shoot up some pics
with the kind of money you're spending you may as well have a one-of-a-kind phenolic spacer made... though possibly it'd fit a normal VG as well. If so he could sell the VG UIM to those of us with EGR-BPT (Meaning no EGR temp sensor) and also sell us ab EGR blocking plate. You know, for those who want just that extra little bit of cooling.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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what kind of turbo are you running and what are the specs(a/r)?
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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what kind of turbo are you running and what are the specs(a/r)?

i have a garret GT 35 R with a .72 a/r
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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i have a garret GT 35 R with a .72 a/r
Good choice. I got mine with a 0.80 a/r (if memory serves me well) about 4 years ago and one thing's for sure ... they're a hell of a lot cheaper to buy these days than they were back then!

You'll be delighted with yours.
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Damn thats a bad *** turbo set up. what kind of turbos r they.
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Its all very impressive, I keep coming back to look at the photos every few days.

Since its taking so much work/fabrication/money anyway, is there a reason you didnt swap to a VE? It seems that a chain would be more suited than a belt for the power you're trying to reach, or has something been done to remedy that? Or, was there another reason to keep the VG?
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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The iron block might have been a good reason.
Originally Posted by mikekantor
Its all very impressive, I keep coming back to look at the photos every few days.

Since its taking so much work/fabrication/money anyway, is there a reason you didnt swap to a VE? It seems that a chain would be more suited than a belt for the power you're trying to reach, or has something been done to remedy that? Or, was there another reason to keep the VG?
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Quickywd01
The iron block might have been a good reason.
VE has an iron block.
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mikekantor
Its all very impressive, I keep coming back to look at the photos every few days.

Since its taking so much work/fabrication/money anyway, is there a reason you didnt swap to a VE? It seems that a chain would be more suited than a belt for the power you're trying to reach, or has something been done to remedy that? Or, was there another reason to keep the VG?
Hmm... VG Has lots of room?
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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i didnt think about the belt being a problem, there are lots of cars that have high horse power and have blets. if anything happens, then ill prolly fix it and change it. but untill then, ill rip it like it is.

ill have some new photos up this weekend of my fuel lines and prolly another movie of it running with the new exhaust and the intake. once, i get it running again and i tune it some more, ill have some in car vids and some drive by's. once im done, im going to every new england meet i can get to.
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mikekantor
Its all very impressive, I keep coming back to look at the photos every few days.

Since its taking so much work/fabrication/money anyway, is there a reason you didnt swap to a VE? It seems that a chain would be more suited than a belt for the power you're trying to reach, or has something been done to remedy that? Or, was there another reason to keep the VG?
There is no way I would put that much money into a VE unless the VTCs could be completely removed. Considering the time and expense that would probably entail...
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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Hmm... removing VTCs, thats an interesting idea.

Would it be any more complicated than using an exhaust sproket on the intake cam?
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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Removing the vtc's would effectively destroy the torque curve on the ve engine.

In short,a vg engine would be able to pass you by..
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mikekantor
It seems that a chain would be more suited than a belt for the power you're trying to reach, or has something been done to remedy that?


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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
Removing the vtc's would effectively destroy the torque curve on the ve engine.

In short,a vg engine would be able to pass you by..
that depends on how you time the sprocket.
there was a discussion on this a couple of years ago.
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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Would you care to elaborate at all? Keep in mind that we are speaking about a VG belt, not just a general engine with a belt.
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mikekantor
Would you care to elaborate at all? Keep in mind that we are speaking about a VG belt, not just a general engine with a belt.
What's so special about a VG belt? Sorry, but there are a reasonable number of VG30E's out there pumping 500+hp and the belts hold up just fine. There's nothing out there to suggest that a chain would be any better than a belt given they still suffer from stretch and the potential to skip teeth.

Besides which, it's a little easier to keep an eye on a belt than a chain given that the belt is a little more accessible.
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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great, thats all I wanted to know.
Old Jun 16, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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ill have pics of the new fuel lines all hooked up by tomorow, or late tonight
ill prolly start a new thread, but ill have another video of my car running too
BURN OUTS HERE I COME
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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yea... i didnt know it was harder to turn camshafts when making 400 hp.. seriously though. other than it needing to maybe work a little harder to open heavier valve springs or a high lift cam.. belts/chains do not know a difference between power.
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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i got everything hooked up today and its all perfect.
BUT!!!

now i get now power to my fuel pump ... each day there is more problems to over come
ill have some more free time later tonight and ill be having that problem fixed, so maybe monday or tuesday ill get it all squared away

so the video will come in no time at all
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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I'm excited to see them dead2fall. More often then not plans for mods are announced and then never followed through.

not with you
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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completely jealous thats a nice setup
Old Jun 19, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
Removing the vtc's would effectively destroy the torque curve on the ve engine.

In short,a vg engine would be able to pass you by..
I figured that forced induction would more than make up for it and that the VEs superior valvetrain would make more power and be more reliable due to its timing chains instead of a belt. But I am not an engine geek and these are my uneducated assumptions.
Old Jun 20, 2007 | 03:07 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't really consider a timing chain setup more reliable but moreso a little more maintenance free. Its still good to put in new chains after a while as they can stretch but that would be on a high mileage engine and once you do that you wouldn't have to worry about the chain for a long time.

When it comes down to performance though, a timing belt is said to be better. It would be lighter for one but I've read that performance builders like them as they don't transmit harmful vibrations into the valvetrain like a chain can supposedly. Makes sense to me but at the very least you know its a lighter setup for sure. You do have to replace them more often but they're easy enough to do that its not all that bad.

I actually kind of wish the VH45 I'm messing with used a belt instead of chains because those things are a pain to work on.
Old Jun 20, 2007 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
I figured that forced induction would more than make up for it and that the VEs superior valvetrain would make more power and be more reliable due to its timing chains instead of a belt. But I am not an engine geek and these are my uneducated assumptions.
The VE definitely breathes better than the VG but given the VTC reliability issues, I'd be inclined to either modify the VE cam setup so that the VTC reliability issue is done away with (or at least minimised) or otherwise, go for a VG with a good set of cams (not JWT's BTW).

As for belt vs chain, many performance builders prefer belts because they're easier to monitor whereas the chain is painfully worse to access and keep an eye on for stretch which is the nemesis of all chains. Overall, they're both as reliable as one another but not as accessible.

[edit] I forgot to also mention that the other benefit of a belt is that you have your camshaft sprockets on the outside in which you can then plant in a set of vernier gears which will allow you to fine tune the timing to get maximum grunt. Try and do that with a chain set up.
Old Sep 7, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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How's this comin' along? Any news on performance yet?
Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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i have everything hooked up and its all good, but now my spark isnt strong enough, i changed some more things and im having a hard time keeping up with myself. ill get some pics up soon
Old Sep 9, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dead2fall
i have everything hooked up and its all good, but now my spark isnt strong enough, i changed some more things and im having a hard time keeping up with myself. ill get some pics up soon
Did you have to get a higher-voltage coil, or just different spark plugs?
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dead2fall
i have everything hooked up and its all good, but now my spark isnt strong enough, i changed some more things and im having a hard time keeping up with myself. ill get some pics up soon
Decrease your gap to about .035". If that doesn't solve your misfire problem, then you will need to increase the spark voltage. grey99max found a good way to cheaply increase spark voltage. Or you can go the more expensive route and get an MDS ignition.
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