i know people say it happens with the poop charger but there is a serious pause once i punch it from the low rpms (in the area of 2000) i say pause because it doesn't respond to any throttle input downlow (almost like a nice case of turbo lag), but punching it at around 3000 and its great until 5000, i thought the vg owned the low end, so this leads me to two questions will the y pipe correct that lag and would removing the 2nd section of pipe that lead the filter to the fender wall help or hurt this problem, if this has already been gone over sorry i searched but didn't find **** PEACE and hold it down for the 3 generations, we have a boring *** forum going here chop it up

 

with JUST the CAI as my only mod i did lose some power on the lowend especially as the temps rose. once the Y-pipe was added there was no loss in the lowend. the 2 together make a very nice package...

 

is that 1/4 mile time with the cai and y pipe? that is so true about the engine being cold, in the morning i always gun it down this flat, and i love the acceleration, but then again i usally gun it from around 3000 so im not really even in the low, but still its starts my day off right, and a little topic i know redlining in first gives me exactly 35 mph, how much mph would the y pipe add and at what mph does the VE redline at in first, i know the cai added 3 or 4 to my 1st gear and around 7 to my second gear. sorry for long posts forgive me PEACE

 

I AGREE, Chris you sure know your stuff. You must of been around here for a while?HEHE

 

The CAI added 3 or 4 what? I'm confused....

Anyways....I redline at about 6500 RPM

 

this is what i meant but maybe wasn't clear on, before my cai redlining in 1st meant 5500 rpms and 32 mph with the intake i redline at 5500 like before but then it going 35, its just the extra horsepower at the redline that i noticed. Before you do you next hp gain mod just check your rpms at different speeds (i recomend 70 in 5th to find your midrange gains and a redline in 1st to find you high end gains) and then do you modifacation and stack the mph at the same rpms and you should be going faster that before because more horsepower means more speed at the same rpm. Its a way of gauging the gains without a dyno. Dont fret if you dont understand this, it ain't no thang, PEACE

 

Mmmmmmkay....

CAI isnt going to make your redline any different than before...nothing will change your redline other than an ECU....

 

i noticed the same difference as nardo in my 91 gxe auto.

about 5-6 years ago i installed a JWT poop charger and noticed that my car redlined in 1st going 35mph instead of 30-31mph

 

what im trying to say is before at my redline in 1st i was going 32 miles per hour and afterward with the CAI i was going 35 miles per hour at the same rpm (5500) when ever you add hp you will go faster at the same rpm because you engine is more powerful, you can tell you gains when adding hp by lower rpm at the same speed in the same gear.

 

My mistake guys....

I thought Nardo was saying it changed his actual redline, after re-reading it, I know what he means...

 

Lol...dude, I know...

I just didnt get what you were saying at first because you didnt say 3-4 "mph" the first time...

 

yeah that second explaination happened while you were posting yours also so we doubled up, no harm no foul, PEACE

 

Where did you get that pic on your sig from? I am going to sue you.

 

This is strange I didn't notice a loss in "lowend torque" with my CAI. But then again the piping from the maf to TB I left stock. Looking back at my timeslips I was able to launch alot harder/quicker. Judging by that my CAI increased my "lowend torque". Maybe what your feeling is the increased midrange torque vs what it was before. Now if your lowend torque didn't increase by the same amount as the midrange the car will feel less responsive.

 

Agreed. I felt zero low end loss with the CAI on a VG either, if anything I'd say a small gain. Midrange grunt was improved along with throttle response.

 

we discussed this before i think or well i remeber you mentioning this. this is why this summer i wanted to test different diameter piping but never got a chance to. i think 3" is probably too large of a diameter (for auto's anyway) the 5spd guys never seem to have a problem

 

we discussed this before i think or well i remeber you mentioning this. this is why this summer i wanted to test different diameter piping but never got a chance to. i think 3" is probably too large of a diameter (for auto's anyway) the 5spd guys never seem to have a problem

I Remember that, I used 3in piping from my maf to cone filter. Everything behind the MAF was the stock 60mm tubing. How big in diameter is the piping from the TB to the MAF with the PR/stock intake? Im betting you could probably squeeze in more lowend torque with smaller tubing behind the MAF. I believe autozone sells some 2.5in exhaust repair tubing, or you could order manderl bends. Dangit I need to borrow someones' 3rd gen VG for R&D .

 

yeah the PR is 3" from the MAF to the TB. i was thinking 2.5" would be more appropriate. i'll have to check out autozone. if not i know JC whitney sells mandrel bent tubing in 2.5" that's how me and my buddies do custom CAI's now. maybe i can get it done before our tracks close down and see what happens.

 

yeah i never thought the mid and high improvments could have made my low end seem like less, maybe thats true thank you all for the posts lets keep the 3rd generation fourum flowing PEACE