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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Automatic trans preventative maintinance.

I sure hope my tranny lasts a little while longer. Any reports on how long a vg auto lasts? Anything to keep it lasting longer? I have a feeling by the time I fix all the little things and big things on this car I'll have quite an education on all the systems.
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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I sure hope my tranny lasts a little while longer. Any reports on how long a vg auto lasts? Anything to keep it lasting longer? I have a feeling by the time I fix all the little things and big things on this car I'll have quite an education on all the systems.
A external transmission cooler would be the first thing to do,along with regular fluid changes.

My wifes vg auto is on it's way out as we speak,at 119k..
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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A external transmission cooler would be the first thing to do,along with regular fluid changes.

My wifes vg auto is on it's way out as we speak,at 119k..
omg that sux!! what is the plan once it goes? 5 speed?
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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omg that sux!! what is the plan once it goes? 5 speed?
rebuild,my wife wants to keep it automatic,i too.
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Does the wifey drive your max at all? I'm sure she'd want to keep her auto as is for a DD though.

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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Does the wifey drive your max at all? I'm sure she'd want to keep her auto as is for a DD though.

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Yeah,my car was originally her car,but slowly grew tired of the manual trans.

I'm going to split this thread.
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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external cooling and changing of the fluid i say about every 12k (if you drive real hard).

probably in a couple weeks i'ma grab an axternal cooler and put it on.
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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If you take good care of it with regular fluid changes, it will last a long time. I flushed the transmission every 25K miles as preventative maintenance and it seems to have paid off. I am at 190K miles now and the car still shifts like it did TEN years ago when I bought the car at 65K miles.

Transmission cooler will help also.
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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If you take good care of it with regular fluid changes, it will last a long time. I flushed the transmission every 25K miles as preventative maintenance and it seems to have paid off. I am at 190K miles now and the car still shifts like it did TEN years ago when I bought the car at 65K miles.

Transmission cooler will help also.
Oh, ok. I was getting a little worried.
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If you take good care of it with regular fluid changes, it will last a long time. I flushed the transmission every 25K miles as preventative maintenance and it seems to have paid off. I am at 190K miles now and the car still shifts like it did TEN years ago when I bought the car at 65K miles.

Transmission cooler will help also.
My first max made it to 166K with one flush its entire life (at around 90/100K) and no external cooler/filter, I'm sure it would last the life of the car if people would do what you did.

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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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My first max made it to 166K with one flush its entire life (at around 90/100K) and no external cooler/filter, I'm sure it would last the life of the car if people would do what you did.

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This is true in most cases,but not all,the vg auto is a squirrelly little pos of a transmission.

Unfortunately,i got a hold of this vg a little late,it had the original fluid in it when i bought it at 105k,changed it at 107k...but still too late.
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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Not to thread jack but, I think my tranny is on it's way out. I have no reverse and the neutral feels like another gear. How hard is it to rebuild them or how much should it cost at the shop?
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Not to thread jack but, I think my tranny is on it's way out. I have no reverse and the neutral feels like another gear. How hard is it to rebuild them or how much should it cost at the shop?
I consider myself to have more than average mechanical skills,and i wouldn't touch an automatic trans with a ten foot pole.

If you don't know what you are before you crack open the transmission,then i suggest you don't do it.

Rebuild prices vary by region,but ball park figures are around the $1000-$1200 mark.yeah...ugh
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
I consider myself to have more than average mechanical skills,and i wouldn't touch an automatic trans with a ten foot pole.

If you don't know what you are before you crack open the transmission,then i suggest you don't do it.

Rebuild prices vary by region,but ball park figures are around the $1000-$1200 mark.yeah...ugh
LOL yeah I know...
I was putting my foot in my mouth. I wanted to rebuild my engine also so I should be looking around 2k.
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Davon24
Not to thread jack but, I think my tranny is on it's way out. I have no reverse and the neutral feels like another gear. How hard is it to rebuild them or how much should it cost at the shop?
may i ask how long your condition has persisted so far? if our transmissions are ANYthing like my brother's 5SFE tranny, then you have about a week to keep driving your car.
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
I consider myself to have more than average mechanical skills,and i wouldn't touch an automatic trans with a ten foot pole.

If you don't know what you are before you crack open the transmission,then i suggest you don't do it.

Rebuild prices vary by region,but ball park figures are around the $1000-$1200 mark.yeah...ugh
wayne, they are not that complex. if you have a work bench that you can take it apart on and lay it out in sequence, they (A/Ts) are fairly easy to rebuild.
pick up an ATRA manual, though i believe the fsm has instructions too, and take your time and rebuild it.
Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
wayne, they are not that complex. if you have a work bench that you can take it apart on and lay it out in sequence, they (A/Ts) are fairly easy to rebuild.
pick up an ATRA manual, though i believe the fsm has instructions too, and take your time and rebuild it.

Thought it may be that easy. You shouldn't boldly state that it is that simple when you never experienced it first hand.

...Like a fat@ss selling slim-fast.

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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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wayne, they are not that complex. if you have a work bench that you can take it apart on and lay it out in sequence, they (A/Ts) are fairly easy to rebuild.
pick up an ATRA manual, though i believe the fsm has instructions too, and take your time and rebuild it.
well brian,I'm simply not a transmission guy,it's not that i can't do it,i simply don't want to.

all the little parts **** me off..

Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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I have huge respect for the transmission guys they are specialists their is alot to learn about them(trans)they vary greatly from one to another.
Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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well brian,I'm simply not a transmission guy,it's not that i can't do it,i simply don't want to.

all the little parts **** me off..

either are most people. it's considered a mysterious part. they are fairly simple in operation actually.
I've never rebuilt one myself because the last vehicle I had that needed a trans I had no time to do (wife's minivan). it was also worth my time to have it rebuilt by someone else versus doing it myself.
BTW you use trans-goo to hold the little ***** in place in the valvebody
Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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may i ask how long your condition has persisted so far? if our transmissions are ANYthing like my brother's 5SFE tranny, then you have about a week to keep driving your car.
The reverse went out on friday......
I spotted one at the junk yard with 130k (300 bucks) on it with a 60 Warrenty on it. Do you think that's practicle?

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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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The reverse went out on friday......
I spotted one at the junk yard with 130k (300 bucks) on it with a 60 Warranty on it. Do you think that's practical.
There is a good chance you will be pissing into the wind with a used unit,my advice would be to have it rebuilt/replaced with a rebuilt unit,or swap in a manual transmission.

Also,most j-yards warranties only cover replacement with another used unit from their yard,not a money back warranty,check the small print on this if you decide to go this route.
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
There is a good chance you will be pissing into the wind with a used unit,my advice would be to have it rebuilt/replaced with a rebuilt unit,or swap in a manual transmission.

Also,most j-yards warranties only cover replacement with another used unit from their yard,not a money back warranty,check the small print on this if you decide to go this route.

I would love a manual tranny but, don't know how to drive one.
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I would love a manual tranny but, don't know how to drive one.
Nobody does until they learn.
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So as far as preserving life of the transmission, many people suggest a transmission cooler, but I have heard of there being issues about having one in the winter, like it can't get warm fast enough? Not really sure, just wondering?
Old Dec 31, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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So as far as preserving life of the transmission, many people suggest a transmission cooler, but I have heard of there being issues about having one in the winter, like it can't get warm fast enough? Not really sure, just wondering?
yes,trans coolers can have a negative effect in colder regions of the country,but nothing a piece of cardboard taped to the cooler wont fix.
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Are they hard to install or expensive? I have a vg auto at 114,000 miles, transmission was driven very lightly and seems to be flawless. It has had two fluid changes this month, but Im afraid they may be the first. Just wondering if a trans cooler is a good idea.
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Are they hard to install or expensive? I have a vg auto at 114,000 miles, transmission was driven very lightly and seems to be flawless. It has had two fluid changes this month, but Im afraid they may be the first. Just wondering if a trans cooler is a good idea.

--->http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=405266

post#26 has a link to a write up.
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a trans cooler with a thermostatic bypass valve is the best idea
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a trans cooler with a thermostatic bypass valve is the best idea
Where would you get one of those?
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I've also heard about something with the valvebody, boosting performance and life of the transmission? Any truth in this?
Old Jan 4, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Where would you get one of those?
Originally Posted by internetautomar
yahoo got me this as a first hit... http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu9J8v3...thermostat.htm
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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I've also heard about something with the valvebody, boosting performance and life of the transmission? Any truth in this?
yes,a company called Transgo makes a valvebody upgrade kit for the vg auto..

http://www.txchange.com/sk.htm
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Originally Posted by augiedog964
I've also heard about something with the valvebody, boosting performance and life of the transmission? Any truth in this?
valvebody kit (see wayne's post) firms up the shifts and makes them happen faster which increases transmission life because the factory intended slip creates heat which shortens trans life.
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Keep that fluid fresh, I do a simple drain and refill once every 25 to 30k.
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Just regular maintenance, drain/refill and tranny cooler and you should be ok. If you start to notice tranny slippage, then it's time to look for another one or go for rebuild. I will be installing cooler to my VG within the next week or so but currently have 203,xxx and still same engine/tranny (even though I will be doing swaps soon). Also suggest valvebody upgrade as well.
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
wayne, they are not that complex. if you have a work bench that you can take it apart on and lay it out in sequence, they (A/Ts) are fairly easy to rebuild.
pick up an ATRA manual, though i believe the fsm has instructions too, and take your time and rebuild it.
ive taken apart the re4fo2a and the rl4fo2a just because i was bored fairly easy to say the least, keep all the parts in sequence and youll be good to go
the thing that usually makes the tranny slips is the sun diske(if thats what theyre called) they looose friction causing slip, when i reput my tranny in ill take a lot of pictures for you auto guys and post it in both the 2nd gen and 3rd gen forums with the shift kit from trans go.

Originally Posted by Greeny
yes,a company called Transgo makes a valvebody upgrade kit for the vg auto..

http://www.txchange.com/sk.htm
i just bought one of those adn ima install it this weekend if it dosent rain too much..
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the thing that usually makes the tranny slips is the sun diske(if thats what theyre called) they looose friction causing slip,
they're called clutches
Old Jan 25, 2008 | 12:39 AM
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This thread makes me wanna tear my spare auto VG trans apart and experiment with it...considering I might be home for a while...or even just try and rebuild the spare 5speed VG5 for backup yes VE5 is better but 5speed is 5speed, better than auto in certain things



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