Engine models that may fit the SE
02-05-2008, 12:54 PM
#81
the stanza and maxima transmissions are very similar other than the bell housing bolt pattern is different, KA - VG. From what i can find, there never was an AWD stanza however. The only awd cars similar that i can find would be the Pulsar GTIR or the axxes mini mini van. All of these awd transmissions share many dimensions with the maxima 5 spds, Only there a different bell housing bolt patterns and they have a transfer case bolted on.
02-05-2008, 01:10 PM
#82
02-05-2008, 02:57 PM
#83
wow, i am suprised this thread has actually COME THIS FAR, what with all the negativity on one side, and UNUSUAL IDEAS on the other. yay, go .org!
matt, does this guy (OP) sound like a noob? i mean, he is using PUNCTUATION! he is NOT using run-on sentences. He is actually breaking it up into paragraphs! and plus he knows what he is talking about, more than MOST people that are here and have been her for a lot longer time.
he brought more information to the table himself, than he received in return. interestingly enough, more noobs bring less, and get more, than this guy.
sorry for the off-topic rant, but it is a terrible 3rd gen forum speedbump that needs to be x-ed. for the love of all that is good, this isn't a political or religious forums, so closed-mindedness should not be welcome. ;X
i still love you matt.
matt, does this guy (OP) sound like a noob? i mean, he is using PUNCTUATION! he is NOT using run-on sentences. He is actually breaking it up into paragraphs! and plus he knows what he is talking about, more than MOST people that are here and have been her for a lot longer time.
he brought more information to the table himself, than he received in return. interestingly enough, more noobs bring less, and get more, than this guy.
sorry for the off-topic rant, but it is a terrible 3rd gen forum speedbump that needs to be x-ed. for the love of all that is good, this isn't a political or religious forums, so closed-mindedness should not be welcome. ;X
i still love you matt.
02-05-2008, 03:58 PM
#85
02-05-2008, 04:55 PM
#86
Why would calling a block, that only comes in a FWD vehicle, a FWD block bother you? I know an engine is an engine and it can be used anyway that you'd like, but car companies typically cast a different block for fwd because the mounts are usually closer to the front of engine and other reasons.
02-05-2008, 05:02 PM
#87
wrong.
it was not uncommon in the old days for there to be 2 seperate blocks for automatic and manual transmission.
in todays manufacturing environment it is a cakewalk to to change a little something like a mounting pad to a different location because application a. needs it to the right and application b. needs it to the left.
Chevy had 2 different 5.3 V8 motors last year. 1 was in the impala and FWD the other was in trucks and RWD. they are not interchangeable
it was not uncommon in the old days for there to be 2 seperate blocks for automatic and manual transmission.
in todays manufacturing environment it is a cakewalk to to change a little something like a mounting pad to a different location because application a. needs it to the right and application b. needs it to the left.
Chevy had 2 different 5.3 V8 motors last year. 1 was in the impala and FWD the other was in trucks and RWD. they are not interchangeable
02-05-2008, 06:31 PM
#89
Are you guys serious? No car company makes different blocks, designated with the same engine code, for different applications. They all use one casting and different engine mounts bolted to the same block. It is not cost effective to produce multiples of the same block. It is cost effective to produce different mounts though. A VG30 is a VG30 is a VG30. It doesn't matter what vehicle it is in. And that goes for different engine designations as well. When they change the casting they change the engine code as well. If you guys doubt me, prove me wrong, find me an engine block with one factory code and two different castings designated for specific applications
02-05-2008, 06:50 PM
#90
Pretty sure B12 Sentra's came in AWD.
Someone converted stuff from it, to a B13:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8bAariYtBw
Someone converted stuff from it, to a B13:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8bAariYtBw
Thats a good example of an improbable idea that got sunk into the rear and the engine bay. I dunno how or if he cross braced the chassis because that was quite a bit of torque there. Very curious to know what he pulled to jam in the back, but some of it looks like custom fab.
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02-05-2008, 09:26 PM
#92
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Are you guys serious? No car company makes different blocks, designated with the same engine code, for different applications. They all use one casting and different engine mounts bolted to the same block. It is not cost effective to produce multiples of the same block. It is cost effective to produce different mounts though. A VG30 is a VG30 is a VG30. It doesn't matter what vehicle it is in. And that goes for different engine designations as well. When they change the casting they change the engine code as well. If you guys doubt me, prove me wrong, find me an engine block with one factory code and two different castings designated for specific applications
Both are VQ35DEs, same cams, same heads, same pistons, just FWD/RWD blocks.
~Alex
02-05-2008, 11:07 PM
#93
Im not even going to read all the previous posts in this thread but here's my suggestion for a 93-94 SE and I KNOW that this will fit:
VE30DE
I'm sure there are a few pics out there to prove that one!!
VE30DE
I'm sure there are a few pics out there to prove that one!!
02-06-2008, 12:41 AM
#94
And Chevy may have different blocks that meassure the same dimensions but they have different engine catalog codes. That is my point.
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02-06-2008, 07:35 AM
#96
OK I will concede that there is two castings for that one engine, but I will guarantee you that there is a different catalog number at Nissan for each block.
Also are you telling me that if you connected a RWD transmission to your "FWD" engine that it would not run? Maybe you would have to make new motor mounts but the engine still would not care. My point is that the transmission decides RWD or FWD not the engine. The engine is just an engine.
Also are you telling me that if you connected a RWD transmission to your "FWD" engine that it would not run? Maybe you would have to make new motor mounts but the engine still would not care. My point is that the transmission decides RWD or FWD not the engine. The engine is just an engine.
02-06-2008, 10:06 AM
#97
Alright guys, I'm gonna have to say...lets take this discussion to maxus 
It'll make it a more interesting meet where an interesting topic is being discussed in an adult manner 
So now that we kind of got a bit of a stanza small talk going on as well, I wanted to ask those who've messed around a bit. Can a VLSD (VE5) trans off a maxima bolt on in a Stanza? Thats what our plan was for my friends Stanza if it were a direct swap.
It'll make it a more interesting meet where an interesting topic is being discussed in an adult manner So now that we kind of got a bit of a stanza small talk going on as well, I wanted to ask those who've messed around a bit. Can a VLSD (VE5) trans off a maxima bolt on in a Stanza? Thats what our plan was for my friends Stanza if it were a direct swap.
02-06-2008, 10:30 AM
#100
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02-06-2008, 11:27 AM
#104
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No it wont bolt in, however, I believe that certain stanzas came with factory lsd. i do not know that for a fact but i heard a time or two. If it is true, then i would guess they would have the same internals as the VE5spd trans
02-06-2008, 11:38 AM
#105
02-06-2008, 11:49 AM
#106
i thought the only diff. in the VE and the VG was the heads having diff. angles. is the diff. in DOHC and SOHC the 12 valve and 24 valve. sorry for being such a newb. please dont beat on me too bad.
02-06-2008, 11:58 AM
#107
Ok.I did a search on the DOCH ans SOCH thing and found my answer. i have the DOHC 24 valve dual cam VE. Sorry for the interruption.
02-06-2008, 01:23 PM
#109
...he is using PUNCTUATION! he is NOT using run-on sentences. He is actually breaking it up into paragraphs! and plus he knows what he is talking about, more than MOST people that are here and have been her for a lot longer time.
he brought more information to the table himself, than he received in return. interestingly enough, more noobs bring less, and get more, than this guy.
i still love you matt.
he brought more information to the table himself, than he received in return. interestingly enough, more noobs bring less, and get more, than this guy.
i still love you matt.
Wow. Who's the lemming now?
02-06-2008, 01:56 PM
#111
02-06-2008, 01:57 PM
#112
(and thats exactly what half this thread has said, with the other half saying "meh, do it")
02-06-2008, 02:30 PM
#113
Aye. To not be a lemming and purchase and mod the same car everyone else has with all the same components. To have a unique one-of-a-kind vehicle with unique one-of-a-kind parts. Because I love the look of my Maxima. Because I DON'T like how the newer transmissions decrease or limit acceleration, attempt to increase fuel efficiency, limit the vehicles top speed, Etc.. Or fall apart. Not to say my current engine is NOT falling apart.. which is another reason to upgrade and polish the thing later.
I'd rather put some money into my bucket to make it run better than one of those other cars than actually BUY one of those cars.
Primary reason: Just to keep the car for a long time. My father gave it to me, it was my first ride, Havn't owned anything else since then. Married a woman that owns the same car (GXE). Father loved cars and had owned just about everything from Stangs, Chevelles, Rivies and Jaguars. He would probably not want to modify the hell out of this car, but he wanted me to have fun with it and so I want to make the Megaswap and mods a tribute to him.
A unique situation with unique goals for a unique prize.
This is the G-Force calculator I use to compare cars. When I ooo and aaaahhh at a new car that just came out, HP alone wont dazzle me. I lock in the HP, torque and any available info I can get my hands on and see what its Ft/sec is in each gear. That helps me determine whether or not it really is worth its dough or if it is just overrated or too heavy. There might be better tools/progs out there but I don't have them, I have this and it works fine, theoretically.
Heres my Calc.
http://www.sbravo.com/documents/GForce-Calc.xls
And heres a nice piece of my inspiration (although I think I'll choose to not go AWD unless I really am pushed over the line). The Project R14 Full double-wishbone conversion with Skyline-delivered all-wheel-drive mated to the RB26DET.
http://www.full-race.com/r14/skyline-pics-vids.php
Sigh at that.
I'd rather put some money into my bucket to make it run better than one of those other cars than actually BUY one of those cars.
Primary reason: Just to keep the car for a long time. My father gave it to me, it was my first ride, Havn't owned anything else since then. Married a woman that owns the same car (GXE). Father loved cars and had owned just about everything from Stangs, Chevelles, Rivies and Jaguars. He would probably not want to modify the hell out of this car, but he wanted me to have fun with it and so I want to make the Megaswap and mods a tribute to him.
A unique situation with unique goals for a unique prize.
This is the G-Force calculator I use to compare cars. When I ooo and aaaahhh at a new car that just came out, HP alone wont dazzle me. I lock in the HP, torque and any available info I can get my hands on and see what its Ft/sec is in each gear. That helps me determine whether or not it really is worth its dough or if it is just overrated or too heavy. There might be better tools/progs out there but I don't have them, I have this and it works fine, theoretically.
Heres my Calc.
http://www.sbravo.com/documents/GForce-Calc.xls
And heres a nice piece of my inspiration (although I think I'll choose to not go AWD unless I really am pushed over the line). The Project R14 Full double-wishbone conversion with Skyline-delivered all-wheel-drive mated to the RB26DET.
http://www.full-race.com/r14/skyline-pics-vids.php
Sigh at that.
02-06-2008, 02:52 PM
#114
Not like I want/need more power, but the VG obviously has more power potential than the VE.
02-06-2008, 02:55 PM
#115
And heres a nice piece of my inspiration (although I think I'll choose to not go AWD unless I really am pushed over the line). The Project R14 Full double-wishbone conversion with Skyline-delivered all-wheel-drive mated to the RB26DET.
http://www.full-race.com/r14/skyline-pics-vids.php
Sigh at that.
http://www.full-race.com/r14/skyline-pics-vids.php
Sigh at that.
02-06-2008, 02:56 PM
#116
02-06-2008, 03:33 PM
#118
http://www.sbravo.com/documents/GForce-Calc.xls
02-06-2008, 03:38 PM
#119
Further investigation. Does it have to be a Pulsar GTI-R tranny? Max power rating for that sucker? Any other engine/Tranny combos that can be mounted transversly? I don't know these things. A chart should be made.
I for one do not know where to go to understand what makes one tranny fit an engine just right. I need some education on this. Talk tech, I'll get it.
02-06-2008, 03:46 PM
#120
Look at the top two configurations on my Calc. Top calc is the SE and bottom calc is the GXE. Thats VG30E and VE30DE respectively.
http://www.sbravo.com/documents/GForce-Calc.xls
http://www.sbravo.com/documents/GForce-Calc.xls