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Old 06-30-2008, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by benstoked
I wouldnt consider the 240sx, stanza, or altima trucks...
where was it used first?
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
where was it used first?
according to wikipedia, the 240sx, axxess, and pintura/ford corsair all in 89.
otherwise, I don't know.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepyvg30e
other than the actual size and shape of the engine wat makes a vq so powerful and cant all the special additions just be mimiced on the ve and vg without goin through the whole swap
That's what I would think. Dandymax made 270whp NA on a vq30. I don't understand why I wouldn't be able to get close to that with my ve, an 00VI, headers, cams, and a good tune. My engine has already put down 205 whp...

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Old 06-30-2008, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by benstoked
according to wikipedia, the 240sx, axxess, and pintura/ford corsair all in 89.
otherwise, I don't know.
You're correct, but I think people say that it's a truck motor it came in the nissan hardbody, it's power band is designed for a truck, and IMO, it's based off of the Z24 nissan truck engine. I could be wrong.

On the other side of the argument, why does it matter if it's a truck engine or not? An engine is an engine, some are better for specific reasons, but almost any engine can be reworked for more power. Power is power, right?
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:02 PM
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The KA was designed as a long-stroke motor for good low end torque and midrange response. It's also not balanced very well (has a half-counterweight crank) and simply doesn't rev. peak torque is in the 3500-4500rpm range, not 5000-6000 as usually seen in higher revving engines like the SR and the newer VQ-HR and the VR engines.
They're great for driving around town, but not for high-revving performance. my KA will stay running at 20mph in 5th gear... it dosn't have any pull of course, but it still runs. Try doing that with an SR..

The good thing about the KA is torque, and lots of it. you can make upwards of 700hp on it, but it involves some veyr major block and head work to make the head stay on it. (above 500whp, they have a tendency to lift the head and blow gaskets) making 300-400hp reliably is no problem- you just have to build it right.

Doing the same with a VG, VE, VQ, or SR is same deal. they can all support 300hp on the stock engine for a little while (some longer than others), but all have been known to hold over 1000hp in race applications. all depends on how deep your pockets are and what your goals are at the end of the day.

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Old 06-30-2008, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
The KA was designed as a long-stroke motor for good low end torque and midrange response. It's also not balanced very well (has a half-counterweight crank) and simply doesn't rev. peak torque is in the 3500-4500rpm range, not 5000-6000 as usually seen in higher revving engines like the SR and the newer VQ-HR and the VR engines.
They're great for driving around town, but not for high-revving performance. my KA will stay running at 20mph in 5th gear... it dosn't have any pull of course, but it still runs. Try doing that with an SR..

The good thing about the KA is torque, and lots of it. you can make upwards of 700hp on it, but it involves some veyr major block and head work to make the head stay on it. (above 500whp, they have a tendency to lift the head and blow gaskets) making 300-400hp reliably is no problem- you just have to build it right.

Doing the same with a VG, VE, VQ, or SR is same deal. they can all support 300hp on the stock engine for a little while (some longer than others), but all have been known to hold over 1000hp in race applications. all depends on how deep your pockets are and what your goals are at the end of the day.
that post should be a "read this n00bs before asking stupid-**** questions about fantastical engine swaps and massive HP goals" sticky
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Old 07-01-2008, 09:36 PM
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yeah but which engine is better
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mrkanda
So, where's the guy with the VQ3.5 swap anyway!? Is he coming back to give us any videos or updates of it running and driving right? If not, maybe I should ask my friend if I can get her totaled '02 Max as a donor car and do it up myself.
Well, I got a little update from our friend through PM: I asked him if he had it going yet and had an update for us. His answer:

"Not yet, I'm waiting for some parts im building my motor because i'm going boost."

So, we shall see if the best of both worlds (VQ and Turbo) will be able to successfully meet up inside the bay of a 3rd gen Max! Can't wait
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Originally Posted by sleepyvg30e
yeah but which engine is better
it depends where you want your powerband to be. do you want power up front and shift at lower rpms? do you want a to sacrifice lowend but get killer top end? do you want a fairly similar level of power throughout the rev range with neither a spectacular low end nor top end?

pick your poison.
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Old 07-03-2008, 12:46 PM
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well then which ones better for each decision......
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Originally Posted by sleepyvg30e
well then which ones better for each decision......
... i figured it was obvious. in the order described in the post:

vg, then ve, then 4th gen vq. i don't know as much about the powerbands of DEK and newer.
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Originally Posted by sleepyvg30e
well then which ones better for each decision......
the one with more displacement
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