Car And Driver August 1992 - Tripple Showdown - Four Door Throwdown
#1
Car And Driver August 1992 - Tripple Showdown - Four Door Throwdown
Haha, I've become addicted. A lot of people liked the other article, so I figured I'd upload for VE guys.
edit: woops! Guess I got the name wrong in the title. You know what I mean. *Triple
edit: woops! Guess I got the name wrong in the title. You know what I mean. *Triple
Last edited by Pearl93VE; 07-30-2008 at 01:13 PM.
#3
Awesome review. Maxima kills it though I find it a bit annoying that they dislike the styling that much. The Maxima isn't the prettiest car on the road but it has for the most part great styling. Better than a Taurus at least.
If they re-reviewed them I'd imagine it would go something like "The Ford Taurus is a fix or repair daily, the Camry isn't any faster than 16 years ago and the Maxima still stands strong".
If they re-reviewed them I'd imagine it would go something like "The Ford Taurus is a fix or repair daily, the Camry isn't any faster than 16 years ago and the Maxima still stands strong".
Last edited by 3g94MaxGXE; 07-30-2008 at 01:37 PM.
#5
I doubt that theory. I could prefer a car that gets bad ratings on comfort but high on speed. Consider the ratings weighted. Even if a car gets a 10 in comfort it might only be comparable to 5 points in handling or acceleration assuming you have a masochist or an otherwise less comfort requiring editor.
#6
I doubt that theory. I could prefer a car that gets bad ratings on comfort but high on speed. Consider the ratings weighted. Even if a car gets a 10 in comfort it might only be comparable to 5 points in handling or acceleration assuming you have a masochist or an otherwise less comfort requiring editor.
#7
Haha okay, that was the theory I was refering to.
Though I could easily take you seriously. Some magazines I've read make me wonder. TV shows I know are walking advertisements. What kind of spark plugs do you see advertised on Spike? E3. What kind of spark plugs do the shows on spike put in their cars? E3. It's s*** like that that pisses me off about automotive stuff. Automotive ebay sellers accounts get like 97% feedback ratings while computer related ones are closer to 99-100%. I doubt CR, C&D, MT, AW or the other car magazines aimed at a "more mature audience" are so corrupt but the ones aimed at younger (30-) guys like me for the most part seem to have more girls than gears and with that kind of marketing scheme I have to wonder about the rest of their business practices.
I read the last Modified Magazine and was pleasantly surprised to see nearly nothing but the RX-7 on the cover, GT-R pictures and info and etc. My first issue as a suscriber will hopefully be just as good and maybe I'll keep renewing the same way I do MaximumPC assuming things seem to come from ethical editors.
Though I could easily take you seriously. Some magazines I've read make me wonder. TV shows I know are walking advertisements. What kind of spark plugs do you see advertised on Spike? E3. What kind of spark plugs do the shows on spike put in their cars? E3. It's s*** like that that pisses me off about automotive stuff. Automotive ebay sellers accounts get like 97% feedback ratings while computer related ones are closer to 99-100%. I doubt CR, C&D, MT, AW or the other car magazines aimed at a "more mature audience" are so corrupt but the ones aimed at younger (30-) guys like me for the most part seem to have more girls than gears and with that kind of marketing scheme I have to wonder about the rest of their business practices.
I read the last Modified Magazine and was pleasantly surprised to see nearly nothing but the RX-7 on the cover, GT-R pictures and info and etc. My first issue as a suscriber will hopefully be just as good and maybe I'll keep renewing the same way I do MaximumPC assuming things seem to come from ethical editors.
#10
Legends always seemed kinda boaty to me though. Before I got my VE and still had the GXE I considered a 1999 SHO (2nd gen with Yamaha V8) for $4000 (also felt boaty) or a 1992 BMW 525i 5-spd for $3300. They were both Green/Tan leather and quite nice looking. My VE was the cheapest and worst condition of the bunch, but I guess I just saw potential.
#11
yea...i was wanting the legend.
but then i looked at the maxima and thought: well my dads nissan BARELY gave him any problems. and he didnt maintain it at all...only me.
but what had me sold was how the car drove, then when i floored it OH MAN! oh yea that i got her for $200.
and you guys
but then i looked at the maxima and thought: well my dads nissan BARELY gave him any problems. and he didnt maintain it at all...only me.
but what had me sold was how the car drove, then when i floored it OH MAN! oh yea that i got her for $200.
and you guys
#12
A 1991-1995 Acura Legend has a C32A SOHC engine, makes 200-230hp. The C series engines were also used in the NSX if that gives you any idea how good of engine platform this looks to be. It was far more expensive than the Maxima new ($12,000 or so more I believe)
I really doubt I'd be here if I had a choice of Legend or Maxima before I met my girlfriend....the Legend was availible as a coupe and with those numbers I'd be far more inclined to pick it.
I really doubt I'd be here if I had a choice of Legend or Maxima before I met my girlfriend....the Legend was availible as a coupe and with those numbers I'd be far more inclined to pick it.
#14
A 1991-1995 Acura Legend has a C32A SOHC engine, makes 200-230hp. The C series engines were also used in the NSX if that gives you any idea how good of engine platform this looks to be. It was far more expensive than the Maxima new ($12,000 or so more I believe)
I really doubt I'd be here if I had a choice of Legend or Maxima before I met my girlfriend....the Legend was availible as a coupe and with those numbers I'd be far more inclined to pick it.
I really doubt I'd be here if I had a choice of Legend or Maxima before I met my girlfriend....the Legend was availible as a coupe and with those numbers I'd be far more inclined to pick it.
#15
Its funny to think it was 1998 when I got my 94 Maxima (its was like a new car) and I didn't know much about cars. I grew up with diesel benz, and later an e36. The Maxima just felt like a big Toyota to me. It was something to get me to school and to the mall. Then I stumbled upon the old 4dsc board and later maxima.org and became a car freak. I'll never forget the day I learned that the car came with two engines, and mine had the slow one--I died a little inside.
#16
Its funny to think it was 1998 when I got my 94 Maxima (its was like a new car) and I didn't know much about cars. I grew up with diesel benz, and later an e36. The Maxima just felt like a big Toyota to me. It was something to get me to school and to the mall. Then I stumbled upon the old 4dsc board and later maxima.org and became a car freak. I'll never forget the day I learned that the car came with two engines, and mine had the slow one--I died a little inside.
#17
I have the stock air intake which is a CAI, albeit a small diameter one, I closed off the resonator to improve flow. Also have the warpspeed y-pipe and a cheapo 'flo-pro' muffler. I'd like to think it has around 175hp now.
#23
I've gotten as low as 18 with my habitual pedal flooring. I've gotten as high as 23 keeping my tach under 3000 most of the time. If I had a VE 5 speed I could expect 20-25 in the same conditions. I spend most of my days driving at speeds between 25 and 45 though on an occassion I'll be on a 50-55 road or I'll do a little speeding.
So I can't really expect that great of gas mileage compared to EPA highway but I still am getting it now that I've kicked my acceleration addiction. I can't wait to see if the warpspeed y pipe will take me up past EPA highway. Maybe someday I'll even go on a long trip on the interstate and see what kind of mileage I get (hopefully 30+).
So I can't really expect that great of gas mileage compared to EPA highway but I still am getting it now that I've kicked my acceleration addiction. I can't wait to see if the warpspeed y pipe will take me up past EPA highway. Maybe someday I'll even go on a long trip on the interstate and see what kind of mileage I get (hopefully 30+).
#24
this is neat and so was the other post like this with the vg max vs the toyota cressida article
so our gen of maxima was born in 1989 -94
with an se model engine and transmission plus. update available in 1992-94
any one know when that gen\body stlye of that camry started?
and any one know when that gen\body "stlye" of the taurus came out...lol
so our gen of maxima was born in 1989 -94
with an se model engine and transmission plus. update available in 1992-94
any one know when that gen\body stlye of that camry started?
and any one know when that gen\body "stlye" of the taurus came out...lol
#25
first of all i dont like taurus AT ALL...so i dont care even if they start to compete with BMW...( which is never gonna happen ) i like Camry they have some good highway acceleration but cant keep up wen it comes to one block drag race....on the other hand, maxima have the ability to eat its competitors in everyway....
#26
this is neat and so was the other post like this with the vg max vs the toyota cressida article
so our gen of maxima was born in 1989 -94
with an se model engine and transmission plus. update available in 1992-94
any one know when that gen\body stlye of that camry started?
and any one know when that gen\body "stlye" of the taurus came out...lol
so our gen of maxima was born in 1989 -94
with an se model engine and transmission plus. update available in 1992-94
any one know when that gen\body stlye of that camry started?
and any one know when that gen\body "stlye" of the taurus came out...lol
taurus redesign in 92
#27
well the 1st gen legend cost more than the 3rd gen max fully loaded....and ws slower and did'nt handle as well as the 3rd gen gxe.
but it was a great car.
the 2nd gen some car magazines says its a has been.
i think the only 2nd gen legend that made the legend famous is the 2nd gen type 2 engine 6spd...
but it was a great car.
the 2nd gen some car magazines says its a has been.
i think the only 2nd gen legend that made the legend famous is the 2nd gen type 2 engine 6spd...
#28
read the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_Legend
The first generation had a lower drag coefficient and yes was probably slower but IMO had some neat features ("an information system that could monitor maintenance intervals, fluid levels, and fuel economy").
The second generation coupe is the only one I really like though. It did cost alot more than the Maxima but the feature list is on par with modern luxury vehicles. One feature I really am envious of is "soft-close vacuum-operated doors" on the coupe. Sure it's gimmicky but I'm kinda a sci-fi nerd.
You are right about the type 2 thing though...it's the one I'd want.
"Honda made significant upgrades for 1993, making a 230 hp (172 kW) "Type II" version of the SOHC C32A engine standard on the coupes, along with a 6-speed manual. The coupe with the 6-speed manual transmission(1993-95) ran the 1/4 mile in 15.4 seconds, 0-60 mph in 6.7 seconds and had a topspeed of 150 mph (240 km/h)."
The first generation had a lower drag coefficient and yes was probably slower but IMO had some neat features ("an information system that could monitor maintenance intervals, fluid levels, and fuel economy").
The second generation coupe is the only one I really like though. It did cost alot more than the Maxima but the feature list is on par with modern luxury vehicles. One feature I really am envious of is "soft-close vacuum-operated doors" on the coupe. Sure it's gimmicky but I'm kinda a sci-fi nerd.
You are right about the type 2 thing though...it's the one I'd want.
"Honda made significant upgrades for 1993, making a 230 hp (172 kW) "Type II" version of the SOHC C32A engine standard on the coupes, along with a 6-speed manual. The coupe with the 6-speed manual transmission(1993-95) ran the 1/4 mile in 15.4 seconds, 0-60 mph in 6.7 seconds and had a topspeed of 150 mph (240 km/h)."
#31
3g94maxgxe:
u and my friend both.
he liked my legend i had the 89 ls...fully loaded.
then he was more impressed that the 1st gen 2 dr's had the rear windows that rolled up/down.
and yea how can i forget the soft closed vacuum doors.
u and my friend both.
he liked my legend i had the 89 ls...fully loaded.
then he was more impressed that the 1st gen 2 dr's had the rear windows that rolled up/down.
and yea how can i forget the soft closed vacuum doors.
#32
read the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_Legend
The first generation had a lower drag coefficient and yes was probably slower but IMO had some neat features ("an information system that could monitor maintenance intervals, fluid levels, and fuel economy").
The second generation coupe is the only one I really like though. It did cost alot more than the Maxima but the feature list is on par with modern luxury vehicles. One feature I really am envious of is "soft-close vacuum-operated doors" on the coupe. Sure it's gimmicky but I'm kinda a sci-fi nerd.
You are right about the type 2 thing though...it's the one I'd want.
"Honda made significant upgrades for 1993, making a 230 hp (172 kW) "Type II" version of the SOHC C32A engine standard on the coupes, along with a 6-speed manual. The coupe with the 6-speed manual transmission(1993-95) ran the 1/4 mile in 15.4 seconds, 0-60 mph in 6.7 seconds and had a topspeed of 150 mph (240 km/h)."
The first generation had a lower drag coefficient and yes was probably slower but IMO had some neat features ("an information system that could monitor maintenance intervals, fluid levels, and fuel economy").
The second generation coupe is the only one I really like though. It did cost alot more than the Maxima but the feature list is on par with modern luxury vehicles. One feature I really am envious of is "soft-close vacuum-operated doors" on the coupe. Sure it's gimmicky but I'm kinda a sci-fi nerd.
You are right about the type 2 thing though...it's the one I'd want.
"Honda made significant upgrades for 1993, making a 230 hp (172 kW) "Type II" version of the SOHC C32A engine standard on the coupes, along with a 6-speed manual. The coupe with the 6-speed manual transmission(1993-95) ran the 1/4 mile in 15.4 seconds, 0-60 mph in 6.7 seconds and had a topspeed of 150 mph (240 km/h)."
#34
I didn't know about the doors on the G2... but the G1 with the C27A sounded friggin gnarly when you got on it. I off and on lusted after a G2 coupe as well, they actually have a "GS" sedan, made in 94-95 with the type-II drivetrain (230hp and auto or 6 speed) that was otherwise reserved for coupes, in case you were looking for something even more rare
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