Hey guys,
I did a search and couldnt find anything.

Has anyone installed keypads from GXE into a non-GXE model?
Anywhere I can find wiring diagrams? I beleive it is wired to the ECU?
If the ECU on my standard model wont support the feature, is there a way to wire the thing to the immobalizer, so that its code triggers the alarm, central locking and power windows (dont really care about the windows, but it would be nice).

Any help would be much appreciated.

 

no one in the USA has done it to my knowledge. In some ways it is easier to swap over a motor than install the keypads. Getting an FSM would be a good place to start though with the immobilizer you will be wired a bit differently.

 

Yeah, electrical stuff is just frustrating, but in this case probably harder than a motor swap, haha.
Do you know if the ECU's are different? or the same unit with a different tune / programming?

 

as far as I can tell, looking at the fsm, the digital touch entry is not tied to the ecu, for main functions.

part of the reason most people dont do a keypad swap is because it is cheaper and easier to install a remote keyless entry/start system; $150(US) gets you an installed system in under an hour (typically) vs. sourcing parts, testing (presuming used) and replacing bad parts, disconnecting everything and removing the entire dash, laying out the new dash harness, testing, fixing what you forgot to connect, finding out why it isnt working, even though it is all connected, finally getting it all to work, replacing the dash, looking at the pile of left over nuts/bolts/screws and wondering which ones were important enough to tear it all back out again....
and the required cussing/screaming and downtime (at least an entire day, if you are fast).

 

you would need a lot of wiring, an FSM, a good brain, the keypads, the control box, and a lot of free time. but it can definitely be done. I was originally going to do it on my friend's 89SE but other things came up. It might still happen though, in which case i'll provide info and pics.

 

If its not wired to the ECU, then wouldnt it mean just making a source of power if there isnt already one hiding back there? (there may be a harness back there, similar to wiring harnesses inside my Max for foglights n other stuff I dont have fitted...)

Thanks - that'd be choice.

 

well sadly you'll have to wait for me to stop being pissed off at him first... i'm not doing anything for him for free anymore. but i can look at the FSM later and try and point you in the right direction, as far as wiring.

 

the SE and GXE dash/body wiring harnesses are different. Much of the difference is for the keypad and associated electronics. The keyless entry system ties into the windows, sunroof, locks, and trunk. Obviously it goes to many different places. The door switches and latches themselves are the same, but the main body harness that connects them all is different.

Thus, it would be extremely difficult to swap the whole system over. IMO, you'd be better off buying a GXE if you want the keyless that bad.

The easier thing to do would be to buy a $100 aftermarket keyless entry system and call it a day.

 

Well I've already got keyless entry, I just like the idea of keypads
I'm pulling my doors apart to fix the central locking (the master lock sometimes gets stuck on something) and installing an alarm, so I'd might as well put in the extra effort eh?

I finally got a chance to have a look through my workshop manual and found a 2 page detailed wiring diagram, it looks pretty simple and easy to do, but easier said than done. I'll try and take some pics of the process as I do it if you guys wanna see the start and end results.

 

my advice: locate EVERY SINGLE wire that you WOULD need to splice or cut before you do anything else. it may sound obvious, but i myself have made the mistake of cutting before looking at the whole picture.

 

Yeah I've done that too, and forgot about them, left them open, re-connected the battery and blown 3-4 fuses in a split second, its a bastard of a job replacing fuses and tracking down which open wires just hit the metal.

Thanks for the advice dude

 

dude u need all the free time in the world to get this job done...no joke!!!














but i do have thinking of putting a push start button in my car so i can show my buddies that i have a car with push start button too lol

edit: i might get this done over the Christmas break..

 

starting your GXE with the keypad on the door?? or just a button somewhere else?

 

not GXE i cant even see my GXE lol ( pic blow ), i m gonna do this to my SE(VE) and there is going be a separate button somewhere around the dash just to start the car.....


sorry took the pic thro window

 

oh ok... at first i thought you were staying on topic and talking about keypad buttons. guess not

 

guess u r right....


and wen r u doing the keypad swap? i m waiting for u to get that done so we can have a sticky for that.

 

i'm not sure if or when i'll do the swap. i'm not on good terms with matt right now so until then, it isn't happening. unless someone else on the forum wants me to do it to their SE. bit i will have to do some research first. my car's a gxe so i already have them

 

i miss my buttons