maxima wrecked :(
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maxima wrecked :(
car being parted. click here for FS thread
First, the disclaimer:
NOT MY MAXIMA! My maxima is still safe and sound. It is Matt's 89SE that I replaced the engine on back in September.
Anyhow, it was raining outside and he was coming downhill on the main US highway in our city, and the pickup in front of him SLAMMED on the brakes the second the light turned yellow; they DEFINITELY should have kept going because they stopped past the white line as it was. At any rate, this is a pretty busy street so he couldn't switch lanes to either side so he had nowhere to go but into the back of the pickup. Both got tickets. Matt for 'failure to reduce speed' and the truck probably for it is that illegal immigrants driving w/o lisences/insurance usually get charged with. He's physically fine, but the car isn't driveable due to the an antifreeze leak.
We are going to fix it tho.. either using the core support from the parts car if it's not very rusty, or one from the JY. Other than that it needs new headlights, radiator, passenger side corner lamp, dualduct (yea it cracked), grille and a little bit of reshaping of the passenger side fender. Since it was a truck, the bumper and all that stuff were spared.. as far as i could tell the frame was stilll straight enough to just fix the visible damage and get back on the road.
Only thing i'm kinda unsure about is the a/c.... he has R12, so he might just have to live without ever having a/c if we can't find a way to straighten the condensor. that, or convert to R134a , cuz i have a good condensor on the parts car that we can put on, but of course the R12 is all gonna dissipate if we have to open the system in order to accomodate a new radiator core support and radiator.
First, the disclaimer:
NOT MY MAXIMA! My maxima is still safe and sound. It is Matt's 89SE that I replaced the engine on back in September.
Anyhow, it was raining outside and he was coming downhill on the main US highway in our city, and the pickup in front of him SLAMMED on the brakes the second the light turned yellow; they DEFINITELY should have kept going because they stopped past the white line as it was. At any rate, this is a pretty busy street so he couldn't switch lanes to either side so he had nowhere to go but into the back of the pickup. Both got tickets. Matt for 'failure to reduce speed' and the truck probably for it is that illegal immigrants driving w/o lisences/insurance usually get charged with. He's physically fine, but the car isn't driveable due to the an antifreeze leak.
We are going to fix it tho.. either using the core support from the parts car if it's not very rusty, or one from the JY. Other than that it needs new headlights, radiator, passenger side corner lamp, dualduct (yea it cracked), grille and a little bit of reshaping of the passenger side fender. Since it was a truck, the bumper and all that stuff were spared.. as far as i could tell the frame was stilll straight enough to just fix the visible damage and get back on the road.
Only thing i'm kinda unsure about is the a/c.... he has R12, so he might just have to live without ever having a/c if we can't find a way to straighten the condensor. that, or convert to R134a , cuz i have a good condensor on the parts car that we can put on, but of course the R12 is all gonna dissipate if we have to open the system in order to accomodate a new radiator core support and radiator.
Last edited by CapedCadaver; Oct 25, 2009 at 05:09 PM.
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..... so we might just take you up on that haha
do the VG and VE use the same compressors for r134? cuz his compressor wouldn't turn on anyhow (bad pulley clutch solenoid perhaps). but he just got the car in september so it was cool enough not to run a/c so it never mattered.
what about headlights, stock corners, and grille? did you sell all that stuff already?
anyhow, about the a/c stuff... i notice that mike90se is using a VG low-pressure line (is he even still using a full R-12 system?) on his VE... can you see any reason why the same wouldn't work in reverse? putting a VE lowpressure line on a VG without the line running into any clearance issues with the radiator hoses or anything? basically i was thinking we could literally buy the ENTIRE a/c system off your green car, evap box included. And then just swap the whole shebang over to his car after everything is straightened out. (This MIGHT not be necessary if i can straighten his condensor out without breakin it... but i'm not yet sure why his R-12 compressor won't run. It could be a bad clutch magneto, it could be a bad climate control unit... but it could also be a discharged system and the dual pressure switch is telling the compressor not to run)
i think his car will look fine with a green hood tho..... he's from NY anyhow, so a NY Jets paint scheme would be fitting
Last edited by CapedCadaver; Apr 3, 2009 at 12:11 AM.
well..... we were gonna go to the mountains this weekend or the next.............
..... so we might just take you up on that haha
do the VG and VE use the same compressors for r134? cuz his compressor wouldn't turn on anyhow (bad pulley clutch solenoid perhaps). but he just got the car in september so it was cool enough not to run a/c so it never mattered.
what about headlights, stock corners, and grille? did you sell all that stuff already?
anyhow, about the a/c stuff... i notice that mike90se is using a VG low-pressure line (is he even still using a full R-12 system?) on his VE... can you see any reason why the same wouldn't work in reverse? putting a VE lowpressure line on a VG without the line running into any clearance issues with the radiator hoses or anything? basically i was thinking we could literally buy the ENTIRE a/c system off your green car, evap box included. And then just swap the whole shebang over to his car after everything is straightened out. (This MIGHT not be necessary if i can straighten his condensor out without breakin it... but i'm not yet sure why his R-12 compressor won't run. It could be a bad clutch magneto, it could be a bad climate control unit... but it could also be a discharged system and the dual pressure switch is telling the compressor not to run)
i think his car will look fine with a green hood tho..... he's from NY anyhow, so a NY Jets paint scheme would be fitting
..... so we might just take you up on that haha
do the VG and VE use the same compressors for r134? cuz his compressor wouldn't turn on anyhow (bad pulley clutch solenoid perhaps). but he just got the car in september so it was cool enough not to run a/c so it never mattered.
what about headlights, stock corners, and grille? did you sell all that stuff already?
anyhow, about the a/c stuff... i notice that mike90se is using a VG low-pressure line (is he even still using a full R-12 system?) on his VE... can you see any reason why the same wouldn't work in reverse? putting a VE lowpressure line on a VG without the line running into any clearance issues with the radiator hoses or anything? basically i was thinking we could literally buy the ENTIRE a/c system off your green car, evap box included. And then just swap the whole shebang over to his car after everything is straightened out. (This MIGHT not be necessary if i can straighten his condensor out without breakin it... but i'm not yet sure why his R-12 compressor won't run. It could be a bad clutch magneto, it could be a bad climate control unit... but it could also be a discharged system and the dual pressure switch is telling the compressor not to run)
i think his car will look fine with a green hood tho..... he's from NY anyhow, so a NY Jets paint scheme would be fitting

Not sure about the differences in VE-VG a/c systems if there is any..
but i'm pretty sure it will all swap over to each car without any issues..I still have the grill/ d-side headlight, no corners lights..Just lemme know what you are going to do..
crap....
the AC...if you're going to swap lines you need to flush all the oil out of the R12 before moving to R134a. R12 is still available if you're looking to use that still. the clutch not running...check to see if the wire for the clutch is not cut somewhere.
don't swap low pressure lines with high pressure lines.
i have a SE grill from a 91 if you're interested.
also have that intake elbow...BUT it's fully polished so not sure if that works for you/him.
the AC...if you're going to swap lines you need to flush all the oil out of the R12 before moving to R134a. R12 is still available if you're looking to use that still. the clutch not running...check to see if the wire for the clutch is not cut somewhere.
don't swap low pressure lines with high pressure lines.
i have a SE grill from a 91 if you're interested.
also have that intake elbow...BUT it's fully polished so not sure if that works for you/him.
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crap....
the AC...if you're going to swap lines you need to flush all the oil out of the R12 before moving to R134a. R12 is still available if you're looking to use that still. the clutch not running...check to see if the wire for the clutch is not cut somewhere.
don't swap low pressure lines with high pressure lines.
i have a SE grill from a 91 if you're interested.
also have that intake elbow...BUT it's fully polished so not sure if that works for you/him.
the AC...if you're going to swap lines you need to flush all the oil out of the R12 before moving to R134a. R12 is still available if you're looking to use that still. the clutch not running...check to see if the wire for the clutch is not cut somewhere.
don't swap low pressure lines with high pressure lines.
i have a SE grill from a 91 if you're interested.
also have that intake elbow...BUT it's fully polished so not sure if that works for you/him.
. \As for the a/c thing... he can live with R134. I have some R12 in the parts car but if anything, i'd use it on my own car, not his. I wasnt swapping low for high pressure Danny, i was just asking if the VE low- and high-pressure lines would clear the radiator hoses and whatnot on a VG engine. If not, i will need to find a late GXE at the JY to get VG lines from. I'm basically planning to plop Greeny's entire a/c system onto matt's car, then have it charged. that way there's no R12 remnants to deal with - it'll be pure R134 from the get-go.
I might have the corner lamp i need... there's one sitting in the pars car, i just forgot what side it is. If i don't have the one i need i might still be able to get one cheaper from the JY. There were a few cars there with headlights, so i guess i can just get the driverside one you have Greeny, and get a passenger side one from the JY. I might also want to go ahead and get your passenger side fender... his is bent, but not badly. How bout your radiator? i assume VG VE use the same radiator right? He smelled antifreeze so i can only assume his cracked. He's looking at other cars at the moment so if he gets one, it will be slightly longer before i need the parts, cuz the car will be mine again and i am still broke
Last edited by CapedCadaver; Apr 3, 2009 at 08:54 AM.
Going a little OT but failure to reduce speed? WTF? Isn't slamming into the back of another vehicle is called Deacceleration = reduction of speed per sec? Some idiots in Simi Valley (where I work) did a full on stop on a green light, at the crosswalk line, and remained there until the lights changed. Then proceed once the light hit green again. On the first green a car nearly rear ended the fool. Honk at him, waited, then went around him. One cannot trust the fool ahead of him/her. Leave plenty of space. OK back on topic.
The car doesn't look that bad. Gotta love these cars, they are tough.
The car doesn't look that bad. Gotta love these cars, they are tough.
As for the a/c thing... he can live with R134. I have some R12 in the parts car but if anything, i'd use it on my own car, not his. I wasnt swapping low for high pressure Danny, i was just asking if the VE low- and high-pressure lines would clear the radiator hoses and whatnot on a VG engine. If not, i will need to find a late GXE at the JY to get VG lines from. I'm basically planning to plop Greeny's entire a/c system onto matt's car, then have it charged. that way there's no R12 remnants to deal with - it'll be pure R134 from the get-go.
also get a new rec/drier.
the plan is to get as much of what i need from Greeny as possible. Brian, how much would shipping be on that white hood? I'd imagine something that size and weight would cost a metric fawk-ton to ship
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As for the a/c thing... he can live with R134. I have some R12 in the parts car but if anything, i'd use it on my own car, not his. I wasnt swapping low for high pressure Danny, i was just asking if the VE low- and high-pressure lines would clear the radiator hoses and whatnot on a VG engine. If not, i will need to find a late GXE at the JY to get VG lines from. I'm basically planning to plop Greeny's entire a/c system onto matt's car, then have it charged. that way there's no R12 remnants to deal with - it'll be pure R134 from the get-go.
I might have the corner lamp i need... there's one sitting in the pars car, i just forgot what side it is. If i don't have the one i need i might still be able to get one cheaper from the JY. There were a few cars there with headlights, so i guess i can just get the driverside one you have Greeny, and get a passenger side one from the JY. I might also want to go ahead and get your passenger side fender... his is bent, but not badly. How bout your radiator? i assume VG VE use the same radiator right? He smelled antifreeze so i can only assume his cracked. He's looking at other cars at the moment so if he gets one, it will be slightly longer before i need the parts, cuz the car will be mine again and i am still broke
. \As for the a/c thing... he can live with R134. I have some R12 in the parts car but if anything, i'd use it on my own car, not his. I wasnt swapping low for high pressure Danny, i was just asking if the VE low- and high-pressure lines would clear the radiator hoses and whatnot on a VG engine. If not, i will need to find a late GXE at the JY to get VG lines from. I'm basically planning to plop Greeny's entire a/c system onto matt's car, then have it charged. that way there's no R12 remnants to deal with - it'll be pure R134 from the get-go.
I might have the corner lamp i need... there's one sitting in the pars car, i just forgot what side it is. If i don't have the one i need i might still be able to get one cheaper from the JY. There were a few cars there with headlights, so i guess i can just get the driverside one you have Greeny, and get a passenger side one from the JY. I might also want to go ahead and get your passenger side fender... his is bent, but not badly. How bout your radiator? i assume VG VE use the same radiator right? He smelled antifreeze so i can only assume his cracked. He's looking at other cars at the moment so if he gets one, it will be slightly longer before i need the parts, cuz the car will be mine again and i am still broke

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Going a little OT but failure to reduce speed? WTF? Isn't slamming into the back of another vehicle is called Deacceleration = reduction of speed per sec? Some idiots in Simi Valley (where I work) did a full on stop on a green light, at the crosswalk line, and remained there until the lights changed. Then proceed once the light hit green again. On the first green a car nearly rear ended the fool. Honk at him, waited, then went around him. One cannot trust the fool ahead of him/her. Leave plenty of space. OK back on topic.
The car doesn't look that bad. Gotta love these cars, they are tough.
The car doesn't look that bad. Gotta love these cars, they are tough.
besides i look for any excuse to go into the mountains
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and with the rec/drier thing... where is that? i have looked at the FSM diagram and never managed to find anything with that name. unless i'm blind.
oic. well there were a few at the JY so i guess we'll just get one of those.
it's like a silver (alum) can/bullet shape object right by the battery. look through the grill and on the driver side you should see something like that. it might be painted black..but it's alum can.
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that is the drier according to my Haynes manual. I had to disconnect the plug on top and short it in order to get the A/C clutch engaged today. It was too cold outside so the A/C wouldn't turn on while I try to add r134a.
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what if i DID take his evap core? i'm a glutton for punishment... so i don't mind ripping the dash out of that car. it's only gonna be a backup car from now on anyhow... but in the south i still wanna have a/c
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i will say that based on my knowledge of matt's driving style vs mine, that if it had been me driving, the accident would have never happened... BUT, it was the other driver's actions that actually caused the accident.
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