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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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maxima wrecked :(

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NOT MY MAXIMA! My maxima is still safe and sound. It is Matt's 89SE that I replaced the engine on back in September.

Anyhow, it was raining outside and he was coming downhill on the main US highway in our city, and the pickup in front of him SLAMMED on the brakes the second the light turned yellow; they DEFINITELY should have kept going because they stopped past the white line as it was. At any rate, this is a pretty busy street so he couldn't switch lanes to either side so he had nowhere to go but into the back of the pickup. Both got tickets. Matt for 'failure to reduce speed' and the truck probably for it is that illegal immigrants driving w/o lisences/insurance usually get charged with. He's physically fine, but the car isn't driveable due to the an antifreeze leak.

We are going to fix it tho.. either using the core support from the parts car if it's not very rusty, or one from the JY. Other than that it needs new headlights, radiator, passenger side corner lamp, dualduct (yea it cracked), grille and a little bit of reshaping of the passenger side fender. Since it was a truck, the bumper and all that stuff were spared.. as far as i could tell the frame was stilll straight enough to just fix the visible damage and get back on the road.

Only thing i'm kinda unsure about is the a/c.... he has R12, so he might just have to live without ever having a/c if we can't find a way to straighten the condensor. that, or convert to R134a , cuz i have a good condensor on the parts car that we can put on, but of course the R12 is all gonna dissipate if we have to open the system in order to accomodate a new radiator core support and radiator.




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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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you can come down and rape some more of my maxima parts..

All the front end parts are good..
Old Apr 2, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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I has a perfectly working r134 system still intact on my ve
Old Apr 2, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Greeny
you can come down and rape some more of my maxima parts..

All the front end parts are good..
well..... we were gonna go to the mountains this weekend or the next.............

..... so we might just take you up on that haha

do the VG and VE use the same compressors for r134? cuz his compressor wouldn't turn on anyhow (bad pulley clutch solenoid perhaps). but he just got the car in september so it was cool enough not to run a/c so it never mattered.

what about headlights, stock corners, and grille? did you sell all that stuff already?

anyhow, about the a/c stuff... i notice that mike90se is using a VG low-pressure line (is he even still using a full R-12 system?) on his VE... can you see any reason why the same wouldn't work in reverse? putting a VE lowpressure line on a VG without the line running into any clearance issues with the radiator hoses or anything? basically i was thinking we could literally buy the ENTIRE a/c system off your green car, evap box included. And then just swap the whole shebang over to his car after everything is straightened out. (This MIGHT not be necessary if i can straighten his condensor out without breakin it... but i'm not yet sure why his R-12 compressor won't run. It could be a bad clutch magneto, it could be a bad climate control unit... but it could also be a discharged system and the dual pressure switch is telling the compressor not to run)

i think his car will look fine with a green hood tho..... he's from NY anyhow, so a NY Jets paint scheme would be fitting

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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 06:06 AM
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I've got a white hood in the garage. a few dings in it, but straight.

you can rather easily swap in r134 in place of r12.
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 06:19 AM
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well..... we were gonna go to the mountains this weekend or the next.............

..... so we might just take you up on that haha

do the VG and VE use the same compressors for r134? cuz his compressor wouldn't turn on anyhow (bad pulley clutch solenoid perhaps). but he just got the car in september so it was cool enough not to run a/c so it never mattered.

what about headlights, stock corners, and grille? did you sell all that stuff already?

anyhow, about the a/c stuff... i notice that mike90se is using a VG low-pressure line (is he even still using a full R-12 system?) on his VE... can you see any reason why the same wouldn't work in reverse? putting a VE lowpressure line on a VG without the line running into any clearance issues with the radiator hoses or anything? basically i was thinking we could literally buy the ENTIRE a/c system off your green car, evap box included. And then just swap the whole shebang over to his car after everything is straightened out. (This MIGHT not be necessary if i can straighten his condensor out without breakin it... but i'm not yet sure why his R-12 compressor won't run. It could be a bad clutch magneto, it could be a bad climate control unit... but it could also be a discharged system and the dual pressure switch is telling the compressor not to run)

i think his car will look fine with a green hood tho..... he's from NY anyhow, so a NY Jets paint scheme would be fitting

Not sure about the differences in VE-VG a/c systems if there is any.. but i'm pretty sure it will all swap over to each car without any issues..I still have the grill/ d-side headlight, no corners lights..Just lemme know what you are going to do..
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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crap....

the AC...if you're going to swap lines you need to flush all the oil out of the R12 before moving to R134a. R12 is still available if you're looking to use that still. the clutch not running...check to see if the wire for the clutch is not cut somewhere.

don't swap low pressure lines with high pressure lines.

i have a SE grill from a 91 if you're interested.
also have that intake elbow...BUT it's fully polished so not sure if that works for you/him.
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Greeny
Not sure about the differences in VE-VG a/c systems if there is any.. but i'm pretty sure it will all swap over to each car without any issues..I still have the grill/ d-side headlight, no corners lights..Just lemme know what you are going to do..
I've got corner lights in my basement
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
I've got a white hood in the garage. a few dings in it, but straight.

you can rather easily swap in r134 in place of r12.
Originally Posted by Greeny
Not sure about the differences in VE-VG a/c systems if there is any.. but i'm pretty sure it will all swap over to each car without any issues..I still have the grill/ d-side headlight, no corners lights..Just lemme know what you are going to do..
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crap....

the AC...if you're going to swap lines you need to flush all the oil out of the R12 before moving to R134a. R12 is still available if you're looking to use that still. the clutch not running...check to see if the wire for the clutch is not cut somewhere.

don't swap low pressure lines with high pressure lines.

i have a SE grill from a 91 if you're interested.
also have that intake elbow...BUT it's fully polished so not sure if that works for you/him.
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I've got corner lights in my basement
the plan is to get as much of what i need from Greeny as possible. Brian, how much would shipping be on that white hood? I'd imagine something that size and weight would cost a metric fawk-ton to ship . \

As for the a/c thing... he can live with R134. I have some R12 in the parts car but if anything, i'd use it on my own car, not his. I wasnt swapping low for high pressure Danny, i was just asking if the VE low- and high-pressure lines would clear the radiator hoses and whatnot on a VG engine. If not, i will need to find a late GXE at the JY to get VG lines from. I'm basically planning to plop Greeny's entire a/c system onto matt's car, then have it charged. that way there's no R12 remnants to deal with - it'll be pure R134 from the get-go.

I might have the corner lamp i need... there's one sitting in the pars car, i just forgot what side it is. If i don't have the one i need i might still be able to get one cheaper from the JY. There were a few cars there with headlights, so i guess i can just get the driverside one you have Greeny, and get a passenger side one from the JY. I might also want to go ahead and get your passenger side fender... his is bent, but not badly. How bout your radiator? i assume VG VE use the same radiator right? He smelled antifreeze so i can only assume his cracked. He's looking at other cars at the moment so if he gets one, it will be slightly longer before i need the parts, cuz the car will be mine again and i am still broke

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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Going a little OT but failure to reduce speed? WTF? Isn't slamming into the back of another vehicle is called Deacceleration = reduction of speed per sec? Some idiots in Simi Valley (where I work) did a full on stop on a green light, at the crosswalk line, and remained there until the lights changed. Then proceed once the light hit green again. On the first green a car nearly rear ended the fool. Honk at him, waited, then went around him. One cannot trust the fool ahead of him/her. Leave plenty of space. OK back on topic.

The car doesn't look that bad. Gotta love these cars, they are tough.
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Boneyard search easy for the intake and radiator and condensor! Plenty of 3rd gens already there!
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CapedCadaver
As for the a/c thing... he can live with R134. I have some R12 in the parts car but if anything, i'd use it on my own car, not his. I wasnt swapping low for high pressure Danny, i was just asking if the VE low- and high-pressure lines would clear the radiator hoses and whatnot on a VG engine. If not, i will need to find a late GXE at the JY to get VG lines from. I'm basically planning to plop Greeny's entire a/c system onto matt's car, then have it charged. that way there's no R12 remnants to deal with - it'll be pure R134 from the get-go.
i doubt you'll swap the evaporator since it's behind the dash - think heater core...so you'll still need to flush that out (very well) before you switch.
also get a new rec/drier.
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the plan is to get as much of what i need from Greeny as possible. Brian, how much would shipping be on that white hood? I'd imagine something that size and weight would cost a metric fawk-ton to ship . \

As for the a/c thing... he can live with R134. I have some R12 in the parts car but if anything, i'd use it on my own car, not his. I wasnt swapping low for high pressure Danny, i was just asking if the VE low- and high-pressure lines would clear the radiator hoses and whatnot on a VG engine. If not, i will need to find a late GXE at the JY to get VG lines from. I'm basically planning to plop Greeny's entire a/c system onto matt's car, then have it charged. that way there's no R12 remnants to deal with - it'll be pure R134 from the get-go.

I might have the corner lamp i need... there's one sitting in the pars car, i just forgot what side it is. If i don't have the one i need i might still be able to get one cheaper from the JY. There were a few cars there with headlights, so i guess i can just get the driverside one you have Greeny, and get a passenger side one from the JY. I might also want to go ahead and get your passenger side fender... his is bent, but not badly. How bout your radiator? i assume VG VE use the same radiator right? He smelled antifreeze so i can only assume his cracked. He's looking at other cars at the moment so if he gets one, it will be slightly longer before i need the parts, cuz the car will be mine again and i am still broke
Yeah, the vg/ve rads are the same, the only difference of course is auto/manual trans lines. but mine has been long since sold..
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Going a little OT but failure to reduce speed? WTF? Isn't slamming into the back of another vehicle is called Deacceleration = reduction of speed per sec? Some idiots in Simi Valley (where I work) did a full on stop on a green light, at the crosswalk line, and remained there until the lights changed. Then proceed once the light hit green again. On the first green a car nearly rear ended the fool. Honk at him, waited, then went around him. One cannot trust the fool ahead of him/her. Leave plenty of space. OK back on topic.

The car doesn't look that bad. Gotta love these cars, they are tough.
yea it's pretty lame. he had the same thing with his elantra in 2007. but i mean, someone made an unsafe stop when it was raining out on a busy road. SOMEONE was bound to hit them. besides the other car's driver isn't even allowed to be in the USA, let alone driving a car here.

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Boneyard search easy for the intake and radiator and condensor! Plenty of 3rd gens already there!
greeny is my preferred boneyard. his schtuff is tested good and working ! besides i look for any excuse to go into the mountains
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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i doubt you'll swap the evaporator since it's behind the dash - think heater core...so you'll still need to flush that out (very well) before you switch.
also get a new rec/drier.
heh, true, it is a bear to get to. what is the flushing agent? is it just called 'a/c flush'?

and with the rec/drier thing... where is that? i have looked at the FSM diagram and never managed to find anything with that name. unless i'm blind.

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Yeah, the vg/ve rads are the same, the only difference of course is auto/manual trans lines. but mine has been long since sold..
oic. well there were a few at the JY so i guess we'll just get one of those.
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heh, true, it is a bear to get to. what is the flushing agent? is it just called 'a/c flush'?

and with the rec/drier thing... where is that? i have looked at the FSM diagram and never managed to find anything with that name. unless i'm blind.

yup it's a chemical that you shoot through the lines/ports.

it's like a silver (alum) can/bullet shape object right by the battery. look through the grill and on the driver side you should see something like that. it might be painted black..but it's alum can.
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yup it's a chemical that you shoot through the lines/ports.

it's like a silver (alum) can/bullet shape object right by the battery. look through the grill and on the driver side you should see something like that. it might be painted black..but it's alum can.
you mean this? the FSM calls it a 'liquid tank', which confused me this morning, because i THOUGHT that thing was the drier then it called it something else.

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you mean this? the FSM calls it a 'liquid tank', which confused me this morning, because i THOUGHT that thing was the drier then it called it something else.

that is the drier according to my Haynes manual. I had to disconnect the plug on top and short it in order to get the A/C clutch engaged today. It was too cold outside so the A/C wouldn't turn on while I try to add r134a.
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It's a drier....

Greeny your r134 system won't swap over because the evap core is different.
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Originally Posted by goon9
It's a drier....

Greeny your r134 system won't swap over because the evap core is different.
what if i DID take his evap core? i'm a glutton for punishment... so i don't mind ripping the dash out of that car. it's only gonna be a backup car from now on anyhow... but in the south i still wanna have a/c
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He can get the entire ac system off of my car if need be, so it will "technically" swap over...
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Shouldn't be a problem to swap R12 to R134a, just change the service ports & put the new stuff with oil in.
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Originally Posted by Cravacor
Shouldn't be a problem to swap R12 to R134a, just change the service ports & put the new stuff with oil in.
didn't you read the first post? car's being parted out, not fixed


also you don't have a 94 GLE. because there never was a GLE until 95.
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I know it's old, but here in Texas if you rear-end someone it's your fault unless it is a weird circumstance. Basically you should always be following at a safe enough distance to stop in time.
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I know it's old, but here in Texas if you rear-end someone it's your fault unless it is a weird circumstance. Basically you should always be following at a safe enough distance to stop in time.
If you say so Caption Obvious. You just need better brakes
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If you say so Caption Obvious. You just need better brakes
i will say that based on my knowledge of matt's driving style vs mine, that if it had been me driving, the accident would have never happened... BUT, it was the other driver's actions that actually caused the accident.
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