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Old 05-14-2010, 12:49 PM
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Piston Velocity

Can anyone tell me off the top of their heads what the stroke of the VG / VE motor is? The numbers should be very close since we are talking 181 vs. 183 cu. in.

I knowledgeable coworker was telling me that running a motor for a long duration at over 30 m/s accelerates engine wear (pistons / cylinder walls). This may or may not be entirely true, but for fun I wanted to calculate the piston velocity which I could, in turn, use to find out the speed / rpm at which my car / motor starts moving at faster than 30 m/s.

Just something I thought I'd do for fun...
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Originally Posted by maxitech
Can anyone tell me off the top of their heads what the stroke of the VG / VE motor is? The numbers should be very close since we are talking 181 vs. 183 cu. in.

I knowledgeable coworker was telling me that running a motor for a long duration at over 30 m/s accelerates engine wear (pistons / cylinder walls). This may or may not be entirely true, but for fun I wanted to calculate the piston velocity which I could, in turn, use to find out the speed / rpm at which my car / motor starts moving at faster than 30 m/s.

Just something I thought I'd do for fun...
IIRC, the stroke is 83mm for both the ve and vg.
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:17 PM
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FYI, It's in the back of the FSM.
Both VG and VE (ALL VG30s for that matter, including DE and DETT) have 87mm bore, 83mm stroke.
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:27 PM
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This shouldn't be a big problem with the oversquare design?
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Originally Posted by maxitech
Can anyone tell me off the top of their heads what the stroke of the VG / VE motor is? The numbers should be very close since we are talking 181 vs. 183 cu. in.

I knowledgeable coworker was telling me that running a motor for a long duration at over 30 m/s accelerates engine wear (pistons / cylinder walls). This may or may not be entirely true, but for fun I wanted to calculate the piston velocity which I could, in turn, use to find out the speed / rpm at which my car / motor starts moving at faster than 30 m/s.

Just something I thought I'd do for fun...
He is probably correct as it seems to correspond to something like 7k rpm - not only cylinder walls would fall apart. Please note that piston speed is very uneven and it even reaches 0 at TDC and BDC momentarily.
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so are we talking about redlining an engine for a long period of time?
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Almost forgot about posting this...It is actually 30 ft/s and not m/s.

The results I found are that our motors are moving at 29.95 ft/s at 3300rpm.

I am not validating my colleague's claims, but based on his logic your motor sustain less wear if you cruise at 3300rpm or less.
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Yeah, lower piston speeds wear less. but driving slow sucks more.

drive fast, live happy.

Now for some fun.. Here's a VQ35 in a 300ZX turning 8000rpm.
How's that for some piston speed?
http://www.rebelloracing.com/racevideo1.htm
Also notice the Lexan windshield starting to bow in at around 100mph. scurry.
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damn. that was pretty sweet.. i think i could overtake him in my max tho..
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Looks like 3300rpm in my car with the VLSD 5-speed tranny is at 83 or 84 mph...That works out perfectly because that is a good cruising speed on most Houston roadways.
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Originally Posted by Hatmanafro
damn. that was pretty sweet.. i think i could overtake him in my max tho..
Don't be ghey sparky, don't be ghey.
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Yeah, lower piston speeds wear less. but driving slow sucks more.

drive fast, live happy.

Now for some fun.. Here's a VQ35 in a 300ZX turning 8000rpm.
How's that for some piston speed?
http://www.rebelloracing.com/racevideo1.htm
Also notice the Lexan windshield starting to bow in at around 100mph. scurry.
That video is badass.
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