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Old 02-13-2011 | 02:10 PM
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short shifter?

Its a 91 5spd (obv) just wondering if there's a short throw out there still available. If not doesn anyone know who might have 1 laying around? I'm pretty much just tryin to get rid of the truck shifter for a shorter 1 and if I can shorten the throw at the same time then awesome
Old 02-13-2011 | 03:19 PM
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Good luck pacesetter and stillen used to make one but not anymore as far as I know. For sure I know pacesetter has stopped making them
Old 02-13-2011 | 03:27 PM
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Do some searching on awsm66/Michael. He created a how-to thread a few years back on how you can make a short shifter out of the OEM one by moving the "ball" up after heating it up in your oven.

He also has a thread or two about how to make a 4th gen STS fit. IIRC, he eventually surmised modifying the OEM shifter was easier/better/much cheaper (obviously)
Old 02-13-2011 | 04:44 PM
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I have a modified stock shifter on my car and it works great...The aftermarket units were essentially an OEM shifter with the ball relocated, anyway.

You should really check out AWSM66 / Michael's thread about this, but let me give you the gist of it:

1) Remove shifter from car

2) Remove shift rod from housing

3) Heat up in oven (search for thread for temp / time)

4) Using hot pads, remove it from oven and clamp in vice

5) Use vice grips or similar tool move ball down to anywhere above where the shaft bends. The farther you go, the shorter the throw. I moved mine the maximum allowable distance and have always been very happy with it.

6) Thoroughly re-grease ball and reinstall.

7) Drive happy!
Old 02-13-2011 | 07:27 PM
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I just did mine last week. 300 degrees for 45 minutes. Took the shifter out of the oven and used a pickle fork to pry the ball up. At first its not gonna move bcuz the there are notches on the rod like the headrest. Keep prying and eventually it will slide up. I moved mine all the way up to the bend. Pretty much mine is as like Michael's. Had to slightly modify my heat shield above cat conv.
Old 02-13-2011 | 08:06 PM
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I rather try and maybe get lucky and find another pacesetter sts. And yes cutting is required to fit the heatshield back on with an after market sts or modified sts.
Old 02-14-2011 | 06:53 AM
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45 minutes is way too long, IIRC. I think I put mine in for like 15 or 20.
Old 02-14-2011 | 11:29 AM
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can anyone tell me if the diy oem mod shortens the length or is just the throws?
Old 02-14-2011 | 12:37 PM
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It shortens the throws just like a "true" short throw shifter.

Moving the pivot ball up shortens the throws.

Cutting the shifter down without moving the pivot ball is literally just a "short shifter" but not a short throw shifter.

Now, you could do BOTH and have a shortened length and shortened throw, if you wanted.
Old 02-14-2011 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by James92SE
It shortens the throws just like a "true" short throw shifter.

Moving the pivot ball up shortens the throws.

Cutting the shifter down without moving the pivot ball is literally just a "short shifter" but not a short throw shifter.

Now, you could do BOTH and have a shortened length and shortened throw, if you wanted.
Alright. Exactly what I needed to know. Thanks for the info.
Old 02-14-2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by enomik-1
can anyone tell me if the diy oem mod shortens the length or is just the throws?
Howdy stranger,.. you in a 3rd gen now?
Old 02-14-2011 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
Howdy stranger,.. you in a 3rd gen now?
yesir. how's it goin bro? just got it a few days ago. I still got my 4th gen though. I bought the 3rd gen for a daily driver. I'm about to start getting the white max goin again soon.
Old 02-14-2011 | 02:46 PM
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What year/trim 3rd gen did you get?
Old 02-14-2011 | 05:18 PM
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proud owner of a 92 se ve5. every max i've owned has been an se. i can't get enough lol.
Old 02-15-2011 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by maxitech
I have a modified stock shifter on my car and it works great...The aftermarket units were essentially an OEM shifter with the ball relocated, anyway.

You should really check out AWSM66 / Michael's thread about this, but let me give you the gist of it:

1) Remove shifter from car

2) Remove shift rod from housing

3) Heat up in oven (search for thread for temp / time)

4) Using hot pads, remove it from oven and clamp in vice

5) Use vice grips or similar tool move ball down to anywhere above where the shaft bends. The farther you go, the shorter the throw. I moved mine the maximum allowable distance and have always been very happy with it.

6) Thoroughly re-grease ball and reinstall.

7) Drive happy!
You should add that info bout your short throw 5speed in your sig.
Old 02-15-2011 | 04:47 PM
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I found one of the aftermarket ones in the junkyard. My luckiest find ever.
Old 02-15-2011 | 08:53 PM
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dude thats sick! wish RI j/y's wuld have good finds like that. ill just stick to cuttin it for now and later on shortening the throw. awesome for the good info tho =) MUCH appreciated!!
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