there are no corner lights you can BUY that look good and imo they look corny on our cars and there useless so i took off the bulbs and completely blacked them out. i have another pair or corners as back ups just incase what i did can cause trouble with cops (for what ever reason they might b.s about) but i dont see how it would when some cars dont have corner lights.
imma do the small side marker mod on the fenders and wire the corner light wiring to those.

dont mind the ugly paint lol im getting the max painted black soon and getting the euro black headlight to match.

 

nobody sells those headlights anymore..... and if you do, throw some morimoto mini H1's in it. They make a set that's intended to fit inside a 9004 socket, so it's literally the easiest retro you'll ever be able to do on a 3rd gen.. just open headlight, install the mini, close headlight, done.

 

yeah youre not going to be able to find Euro's anymore, theyre about $150 a pair on Ebay and i guess theyre not even really in stock there

some 3rd gens at the JY have them here, but a guy in BC that got a hit n run on his has first dibs on a set if i find them

 

how much can u get me a pair for, when u find a set?
after u get a set for that guy

 

i want a pair if i find them but i would rather have the bmw set or the projection set some ppl made. they just charge crazy a$$ prices for them
when they decide to sell their retros thats why i was going for the black euros.

 

i think headlights are still $38ish each, but honestly theres barely any 3rd gens here. guessing theres no more than 20-30 in the whole big city. last couple of summers there were some modded ones though

best to see if someone on here has a set

 

http://www.ilovebodykits.com/product...ght_Black.html talking about these?

 

yup thnks for link jus incase my link is sold out.

 

The ones i was talking about ARE projectors.... just not OEM projectors. It's just that the plain euros are so much worse than the stock lights in terms of output (what you can see) and glare (what everyone else sees). There's literally no aiming at all, so it's just like a circular flashlight.

These are the Morimotos..
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=221

 

Those Morimoto's are nice.. So are you supposed to fit those into stock headlight assemblies? Basically what I'm asking is: Can you use the Morimoto headlights in that 'black euro' assembly?

 

o ok. even with h.i.d's they still suck?
and u said this was the easiest way to retro if i got the mori's, now question is how do i put these on if i get the black euros? imma have to hack and mod it to fit aint i?

 

i don't see why not, the euros are pretty deep, should be deep enough to fit the projector. Might want to measure the depth to the socket with a ruler first tho.

Anyhow, they make adapters that you get with the Morimotos that fit/align them into a variety of different sockets, 9007 being one of them. And while 9004 and 9007 are not EXACTLY the same, you can grind 2 of the 3 alignment nubs off the housing, and then the one that's left (the top i think) are the same.

here's a thread that shows how the adapter works, and the alignment nubs i'm referring to.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f123...esigns-566503/

 

um... with HID's they are a thousand times worse... Have you ever come up on an unlit 2-lane road where an oncoming car had their brights on? Now imagine a bulb that's 5x brighter than that.

See, the HID bulb itself shines in all directions.. it's the projector that actually makes HIDs "better". The euros physically do not have the ability to aim light, so you will constantly be blinding everyone, probably to the point where they can't even see the road if it's outside of the city.

In cars with OEM HIDs in reflector dishes (like 5.5gen maximas) the chrome portion of the housing is faceted, to aim the light, rather than smoothly curved like the Euros. That's why the stock headlights on 3rd gens have the fluted glass, which does its best to put the light on the road and out of people's eyes.

The only thing you gotta do to get them in, is to bake the headlight to soften up the glue that holds the lens on, remove the lens, pop them in (perhaps some nub modification as in my prior post) then re-glue and reattach the lens covers.

regardless of halogen or HID, your Euros will put out a pattern like this for low or high beam (just a hell of a light brighter with HIDs):



whereas the Morimotos look like this (low beam)


and this for the high beam

 

o ok i see now what ur saying. but dam imma have to drop like $250 to complete the headlights

 

if you can't afford to do them all the way, then just leave them stock... I don't know what kind of roads you normally drive on, or what time of day, but around here you can drive an oncoming car right off the road if they can't see anything in front of them but your lights.

 

Hey Caped, from what I gather you're saying those euro headlights give you the flashlight effect right? (i've seen this before on my brothers Z, it's TERRIBLE) So in order to get a nice clean cut off of light you need to do a retrofit correct?

That's really why I was asking if the Morimoto lights would fit in that lens. I think the projector style inside of the black euro would look amazing.

 

Euro's give way better light IMO than stock headlights

 

yes, retrofit is absolutely critical. chrome's a self-proclaimed ricer, so ignore his advice.

i'm fairly certain they will... they are about 5.5" deep, including the part that goes through the stock bulb hole. So just use a tape measure to check the depth of the housing from that point, and i'm pretty sure it's more than 5.5" from the back of the hole, so you should be good.

more light? yes. better? not in a million years. you get more light coming out of the lens but it's worthless (and dangerous) because you can't aim it... half of it goes up into the sky, and into other drivers' faces; it's the same as having your highbeams on all the time except you can't turn them off.

more isn't always better... using what you have more effectively is.

 

@ caped. so ur sayin the motos jus screw in the euros thru the bulb hole? cuz if thats the case then imma do it. i thought i had to hack n piece **** together to make em.

 

yeah, kinda, they fit into the stock bulb hole with a screw-on collar from the rear. You would be using the aforementioned adapter thing for a 9007 bulb.. which is why you'll most likely have to remove the 2 alignment nubs on the lower portion of the hole and just leave the top one, since you have a 9004 socket.

Only other thing you have to do is remove the little aperture shield thing that goes in front of the stock bulb. Remember you will also need ballasts to run the HID bulbs.

 

aimed correctly, my stock headlights put literally barely any light on the road. a flashlight would have been better. with the Euros, i get a solid patch of light aimed directly at the ground, none goes to the sky.

i'll try to get a pic in the next few days

 

so basically either you blind people by aiming them the same as stock lights, or you aim them WAY down to where you can't even use any of the light yourself.... ie worthless. do it right, or do nothing.

this demonstrates unmodified Euros (purposely aimed down to minimize glare towards other drivers) vs a retro: