bigmax90

Just was browsing ebay and came across this...anyone tried them?..I know other from this product, thiers no other spacers for our style intake. Just wondering if these really make a difference. Thanks for the input.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/89-94-Maxima-VG30E-Heat-Shield-High-Perform-Racing-HP-/320744767459

akurtzer57

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Those are just gaskets not spacers. Much like hondata for hondas. Not much gain but Im sure will have a very little differance in IAT if any.

maximo018

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Aaron supposedly doesn't make the manifold spacers for you all anymore. Demand was too low. That was the one if any that worked. You can give him a call or pm and see if he has a set lying around.

chrome91

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wtf? Hondata is a tuning system for Hondas like Nistune, not gaskets

James92SE

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Actually those aren't just "gaskets" - it specifically says in the ad they're polymer and thermal insulated - meaning they are essentially the same thing as Aaron's spacers. They don't LOOK to be as thick, so you won't get the longer runner type effect as Aarons but we don't know for sure how thick they are so we don't even know that for sure.

The majority of of the benefit from these anyway is the lower intake temps, and these should do the job. And you certainly can't beat that price..

And also, like chromey said, Hondata is a programmable ECU for Honda's..

Maxpwer

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Please don't post when you don't know what you are talking about just cause you are bored or want to up your post count. Infact go post on supra board and mislead their members instead of mine.

Hondata has been a long time manufacture of insulating intake manifold gaskets for all kinds of cars in addition to their honda/acura tuning ECUs and tools.

The ebay link the OP posted says the intake gaskets he supplies are "thermal insulating polymer" which is hard to determine from his picture. However they are clearly not the OEM unit with rubber around the ports so he may have a legitimately insulating set of gaskets. He also states his gaskets can be reused over and over further supporting his claim.

I would clarify that he is selling a set of 2 for $36.99 which would be cheaper than stock and a great deal. I would personally order a set if this is the case even though Aaron's trial VG set didnt make a large difference. My intercooler never gets hot (even when I try to heat soak it) but my intake manifold gets hot as F so I'm sure it could make a large difference for those boosted.

EDIT for link to Hondata intake gaskets.
http://www.hondata.com/heatshieldgasket.html

James92SE

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Wow, news to me. And I was all over the Honda scene back 10 years or so ago when Hondata was all the rage and somehow never heard of these. I would venture to think that these gaskets came about AFTER the ECU type stuff, though, no? Otherwise the name would be a play gaskets or something instead

And yeah, Aaron is my boy, and I actually bought the first ever officially for sale VE set, but I haven't noticed anything from my spacers. My IM seems just as hot as my non-spacer'd VE, and it certainly isn't at all cool to the touch.

chrome91

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exactly why i figured tuning software, because "much like Hondata for Hondas" implied Honda only hence tuning software and not gaskets for Hondas/other cars

maximo018

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Only way to figure out if they work is to buy them and try them out yourself.

maximo018

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I don't think Aaron's spacers are supposed to make it cool to the touch. Are they? I believe its something that would have to be tested with a thermometer than by hand.

James92SE

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Well, it's not the main point of the spacers to make it cool to the touch per se, but the main point IS to lower IM temps drastically. Going with that, many report IMs that are "cool to the touch" with the spacers as kind of anedoctal evidence to the lower temps. I was just saying my IM isn't cool to the touch and still feels as hot as my non-spacer'd VE. Maybe one of these days buy a laser thermometer and test. But, even if not "cool to the touch", a 40 degree drop in temp should be noticeable when directly comparing both of my VEs side by side.

Now, I'm certainly not saying the spacers "don't work" and I can't really fathom why I'd be seemingly the only person who hasn't had great/noticeable success with them, but that's been my experience so far

I will also add that I do NOT have the EGR delete installed. I have to pass emissions here so the EGR delete is not an option for me. I modified my EGR tube to fit with the spacers. Perhaps a large portion of the benefit actually stems from the EGR delete which would explain my seemingly lack of results. I'm sure preventing hot exhaust air from going back up into the IM would have a noticeable impact.

CMax03

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The best trick to cool your intake is to not allow the water to run thru your throttle body nor the upper plenum and run a CAI....I searched for the eBay listing on that item and never could find it....what page and item #? I would invest in it....the last kits the NWP Engineering offered for the VG's didn't have spacers that fit between the LIM and Heads, it was for the IAV and TB....that's it!

maximo018

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I have the egr delete. So I guess I'll let you know how that goes.

CapedCadaver

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partly was a demand thing. also he never made lower intake spacers for the VG set b/c he already suspected demand would be low, so the R&D costs of adding even more spacers to the VG kit would have made it far too expensive for anyone to buy it. just an economies-of-scale thing.

on aaron's kits for the VQ engine, he has 1/8" spacers for the LIM-to-head gaskets, and 1/4" for the other gaskets.

maximo018

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Ah now I see.