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Old 12-31-2001, 05:15 PM
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Delayed 3-4 Upshift When Cold

I'm a little concerned about the automatic transmission in my 1992 GXE. When cold (mornings or after sitting at work all day), it delays the initial 3-4 upshift for as long as a minute, causing the engine to rev to around 3000 rpm at 50 mph (as fast as I'll go until the temp gauge has climbed a bit). Once it finally does shift, the problem does not recur until the car has been parked and allowed to cool down fully again. This is admittedly a minor annoyance, but I have to wonder if it doesn't betoken some more serious mechanical or electrical problems. Any thoughts?
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Old 12-31-2001, 07:26 PM
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This is normal. The tranny doesn't engage 4th gear till the temp goes over 147*F.
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Old 01-01-2002, 12:05 AM
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my uncle had that problem and he noticed that it would go away once it was warmed up. so the only thing i can suggest in which my uncle does and it works is to let it warm completely before driving.
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Old 01-01-2002, 01:45 PM
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According to the FSM, the fluid temp operating range is 50-80C (122-176F). OD will not be engaged until then. You really have to drive the car to get the temp up.

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This is normal. The tranny doesn't engage 4th gear till the temp goes over 147*F.
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Old 01-04-2002, 12:15 PM
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Delated-shifting tranny (cold weather)

OK, now how about a trans with delayed upshift from 2-3 and also from 3-4 but only when the ambient temp is below about 45deg F? This tranny shifted normally at all temps for the first 5 or so years but has gradually begun to do this delayed shift thing for the last two years.

The tranny oil has been changed periodically since the car was new.

I don't like to rev the engine too much when it's cold and I don't want to wait while the machinery warms up......besides, idling is not healthy for a gas engine.

My guess is that there may be worn seals in the valve assembly somewhere especially if there are spool valves in there somewhere that are sealed with o-rings. Any other suggestions? Is this a common problem?
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Old 01-04-2002, 12:17 PM
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Re: Delated-shifting tranny (cold weather)

Originally posted by GXEllent
OK, now how about a trans with delayed upshift from 2-3 and also from 3-4 but only when the ambient temp is below about 45deg F? This tranny shifted normally at all temps for the first 5 or so years but has gradually begun to do this delayed shift thing for the last two years.

The tranny oil has been changed periodically since the car was new.

I don't like to rev the engine too much when it's cold and I don't want to wait while the machinery warms up......besides, idling is not healthy for a gas engine.

My guess is that there may be worn seals in the valve assembly somewhere especially if there are spool valves in there somewhere that are sealed with o-rings. Any other suggestions? Is this a common problem?
Its not a problem, and yes its common..........
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