Crash Boom Bah -
#1
Crash Boom Bah -
I received the call at about 4:15ish -
It was my wife, "Had a fender bender.....".
My son had slid on some ice into a parked pick'em up truck.
2004 Ford F150
OK, I get home a few minutes after.
The car is crunched on the front passenger side, hood is toasted.
Ran smack into the left rear of the all might F150.
The crash bent the Ford Truck's bumper in a bit. When I talked to the owner, he said that was the exact same place it was hit before.
He went on to say how he collected the money from insurance the last time and never fixed it. Fine. He had called our insurance company before I even got home, I would of rather thrown cash at the guy. Anyway -
My son is 17, 1st accident, we've talked before, still, did not expect this.
He's fine, physically. It's his first car.
I go down and finish dealing with the owner, take care of the insurance - and then take my son to work.
Not sure he wanted to go to work, but that was my call, and I'll stand by it.
When I came back, I looked closer at the Maxima, the car took a poke.
A couple of years ago I was at a junkyard southwest of me, and they had the identical car there - great body - I'm having my son check first thing in the morning, if it is still there, this will be easy(errrr).
1st accidents always suck.
They suck even more when it is cold outside.
To fix or not to fix, that is the question!
It was my wife, "Had a fender bender.....".
My son had slid on some ice into a parked pick'em up truck.
2004 Ford F150
OK, I get home a few minutes after.
The car is crunched on the front passenger side, hood is toasted.
Ran smack into the left rear of the all might F150.
The crash bent the Ford Truck's bumper in a bit. When I talked to the owner, he said that was the exact same place it was hit before.
He went on to say how he collected the money from insurance the last time and never fixed it. Fine. He had called our insurance company before I even got home, I would of rather thrown cash at the guy. Anyway -
My son is 17, 1st accident, we've talked before, still, did not expect this.
He's fine, physically. It's his first car.
I go down and finish dealing with the owner, take care of the insurance - and then take my son to work.
Not sure he wanted to go to work, but that was my call, and I'll stand by it.
When I came back, I looked closer at the Maxima, the car took a poke.
A couple of years ago I was at a junkyard southwest of me, and they had the identical car there - great body - I'm having my son check first thing in the morning, if it is still there, this will be easy(errrr).
1st accidents always suck.
They suck even more when it is cold outside.
To fix or not to fix, that is the question!
#3
if it were my car, i would try and straighten out the rad support, get a headlight, grille, and hood from a junker and call it a day. depends if theres any more damage than visible in the pictures though
#4
The radiator support appears to bolt in - be nice it is was not insane to replace.
The the car is not at the local salvage yard, I know there are several at the pick n' pulls in Kansas City.
Does anyone know what year body parts interchange?
Hope - there is hope!
#5
89-94 are all the same. 89-91 have lighter colour rear center lights on the GXE than 92-94 GXE i believe. 92-94 are apparently a little bit shorter than 89-91 but that doesnt concern anything
for the parts you need, the only thing different is the grille. 89-91 have a different grille than 92-94, you need the chrome 92-94 grille
for the parts you need, the only thing different is the grille. 89-91 have a different grille than 92-94, you need the chrome 92-94 grille
#8
Radiator support is spot welded. I've seen worse, twice. Fixed both without replacing the support. Bend it back as best you can. Headlight alignment will probably be the most difficult part.
#9
89-94 are all the same. 89-91 have lighter colour rear center lights on the GXE than 92-94 GXE i believe. 92-94 are apparently a little bit shorter than 89-91 but that doesnt concern anything
for the parts you need, the only thing different is the grille. 89-91 have a different grille than 92-94, you need the chrome 92-94 grille
for the parts you need, the only thing different is the grille. 89-91 have a different grille than 92-94, you need the chrome 92-94 grille
Thank you very much, we're starting the hunt for parts today - I'm having my son call the local yard I saw the identical year and color car at first, if it is still there, it will be a blessing!
#10
I wouldn't be surprised if that beige color is more plentiful than any other color on the 3rd gen. I wonder if there's a list somewhere of how many of each color was produced. I seem to see more beige 3rd gens than any other color at the junkyards, at least here in DFW. And the paint always seems to hold up better on the beige color for some reason. Normally every car here that I see has peeling paint and a lot of any damage and that's usually not the case on the beige.
Anyway, grab you a new hood and headlight and whatnot and you should be good to go. Looks like an easy repair and should get good results
Anyway, grab you a new hood and headlight and whatnot and you should be good to go. Looks like an easy repair and should get good results
#11
Bought a hoof, headlight and turnsignal/whatever that other light is to the side of the headlight - Ah......
The hood needs to be cleaned up, a couple minor scratches, it's far from perfect, but it was only $35.00
Headlight assembly ran $25.00 and that other light was $15.00
The grill will need to come from one of the pick'n'pull places in KC ($20.00)
Might be able to get started tomorrow -
The hood needs to be cleaned up, a couple minor scratches, it's far from perfect, but it was only $35.00
Headlight assembly ran $25.00 and that other light was $15.00
The grill will need to come from one of the pick'n'pull places in KC ($20.00)
Might be able to get started tomorrow -
#12
#13
I could fix most that just with what I go laying around in my garage.
Course, not saying much if you saw my garage!
Keep it. Fix it. Better yet - great learning opportunity for the boy to fix it. Have a shop repair radiator support and straighten things, then he can do hood, lights, etc.
Course, not saying much if you saw my garage!
Keep it. Fix it. Better yet - great learning opportunity for the boy to fix it. Have a shop repair radiator support and straighten things, then he can do hood, lights, etc.
#14
I dug out my come-along and box of ratchet straps/tie downs.
My thought is to utilize nature, such as - the large maple tree in our yard - to assist in the repair.
My son gets off work soon, hopefully he'll want to get started.
I just finished posting the weekly items on eBay - 60 new listings today!
Must look away from computer screen . . . . . .
12/14 PM Yes, I am an idiot.
We were able to get the hood on and it is only a inch or so away from fitting in the latch.
When trying to square everything up, I managed to break the radiator.
Smacked it with a hammer, a chunk flew off the top, no repairing that - although I am a huge fan of JB weld..... Anyway -
The "new" hood is ratty, hopefully it cleans up. I'm concerned with getting the head and side marker lights in and somewhat aligned. Weather, sucks, 20's, may need to pull the garage queen out and work on the Maxima in a "controlled" enviroment.....
Hope this does not spiral downward rapidly.
12/15 AM Hood now opens and closes, needs only minor tweeking.
Asked son to button up the hood struts. He is liking his warm bed a little better than that idea.
If he was not such a good kid, great grades, nice girlfriend, no bad habits (video games do not count), I'd probably jerk him out and get him out to wrench on the car.
He'll get up in his own time.
When he does bolt those struts up (you know, they need to be replaced, now would be a good time...) I asked him to also look at what he thinks it will take to do the headlight and that other one.
Found a new radiator on eBay for $50.00 delivered, might see what the salvage yard wants for theirs.
Grill, if and when this all comes together, we'll think about the grill. I don't know how those clips that hold it in work, any help is welcomed.
Thanks everyone
My thought is to utilize nature, such as - the large maple tree in our yard - to assist in the repair.
My son gets off work soon, hopefully he'll want to get started.
I just finished posting the weekly items on eBay - 60 new listings today!
Must look away from computer screen . . . . . .
12/14 PM Yes, I am an idiot.
We were able to get the hood on and it is only a inch or so away from fitting in the latch.
When trying to square everything up, I managed to break the radiator.
Smacked it with a hammer, a chunk flew off the top, no repairing that - although I am a huge fan of JB weld..... Anyway -
The "new" hood is ratty, hopefully it cleans up. I'm concerned with getting the head and side marker lights in and somewhat aligned. Weather, sucks, 20's, may need to pull the garage queen out and work on the Maxima in a "controlled" enviroment.....
Hope this does not spiral downward rapidly.
12/15 AM Hood now opens and closes, needs only minor tweeking.
Asked son to button up the hood struts. He is liking his warm bed a little better than that idea.
If he was not such a good kid, great grades, nice girlfriend, no bad habits (video games do not count), I'd probably jerk him out and get him out to wrench on the car.
He'll get up in his own time.
When he does bolt those struts up (you know, they need to be replaced, now would be a good time...) I asked him to also look at what he thinks it will take to do the headlight and that other one.
Found a new radiator on eBay for $50.00 delivered, might see what the salvage yard wants for theirs.
Grill, if and when this all comes together, we'll think about the grill. I don't know how those clips that hold it in work, any help is welcomed.
Thanks everyone
Last edited by ujm; 12-15-2013 at 08:46 AM.
#15
My son was right on time and we made some more progress -
We're checking with the salvage yard in the AM for a radiator, can order locally and have one delivered for $109 or eBay with patience and about $50.00.
The grill is a given, gotta have one -
And some final pushing and prodding to make it all fit a little better, Hood needs to come down a hair, passenger headlight out a inch or so.
Some touch up paint, we'll call it good.
Be nice to find a better hood, but you know, for the price, I think we've done all right.
Oh! My son asked "Dad, who pays for the radiator?"
He was not real thrilled when I told him he did......
We're checking with the salvage yard in the AM for a radiator, can order locally and have one delivered for $109 or eBay with patience and about $50.00.
The grill is a given, gotta have one -
And some final pushing and prodding to make it all fit a little better, Hood needs to come down a hair, passenger headlight out a inch or so.
Some touch up paint, we'll call it good.
Be nice to find a better hood, but you know, for the price, I think we've done all right.
Oh! My son asked "Dad, who pays for the radiator?"
He was not real thrilled when I told him he did......
Last edited by ujm; 12-15-2013 at 11:38 AM.
#17
These are by far the most difficult parts of the repair. I gave up years ago trying to align my hood perfectly, and for the headlights, I just ended up doing a custom job.
#18
Getting closer -
Thanks for the honesty. It looks like we might have some nice weather this week.
Ordered a radiator from a local parts store today, I try to buy local when I can. It will be here tonight at 7:00PM, pretty good service.
I think it cost around $90.00, pay when picking it up -
Is the grill easy to remove? What's the trick to those clips?
Have to be in KC for business this week, might hit a u-pull-it, if time allows.
Probably need to make the time....
Ordered a radiator from a local parts store today, I try to buy local when I can. It will be here tonight at 7:00PM, pretty good service.
I think it cost around $90.00, pay when picking it up -
Is the grill easy to remove? What's the trick to those clips?
Have to be in KC for business this week, might hit a u-pull-it, if time allows.
Probably need to make the time....
#19
the trick...if they are not totally messed up is to turn those nubs in the back it 45 degrees.
the other alternative is to pinch them with vice grips or something.
regardless it's a total PITA.
car is coming together...nice job.
the other alternative is to pinch them with vice grips or something.
regardless it's a total PITA.
car is coming together...nice job.
#23
Radiator came in last night, as promised. $84.00 locally. We could of saved $34.00 by buying on eBay, but you know, the guys at the auto parts store have always gone out of their way to treat me well over the years.
I'm hoping to be able to knock out all of my work early enough to get to work on installing it this afternoon. I know the car could use a thermostat, not sure I want to add more the plate right now.
The grill sounds like a *****, I had trouble removing the remaining pieces - makes a new one look better and better all the time....
I'm hoping to be able to knock out all of my work early enough to get to work on installing it this afternoon. I know the car could use a thermostat, not sure I want to add more the plate right now.
The grill sounds like a *****, I had trouble removing the remaining pieces - makes a new one look better and better all the time....
#24
Really the grille is easy. Squeeze the clips from the backside (backside meaning between the grille and the radiator). The clips need to be squeezed from both the top and bottom. What you can do if necessary if a clip is hard to compress is to apply pressure from the underside with a finger and use a screwdriver to apply pressure from the top. Then pull the grille (or remaining piece of grille) toward you (away from the radiator). This way the whole grille and clips come out together, and when you put the grille back on (or put on a replacement grille), it just pops right in.
Now - what you must do if you need to remove or replace a clip on the grille itself is get a long skinny flathead, stick the flathead threw the grille slats and turn the clip 45 degrees like Dan mentioned. The clip will then pop out of the backside. To replace the clip you need to install it from the backside and twist it 45 degrees while pushing it inward. But none of this is necessary if you remove the grille as a whole
Now - what you must do if you need to remove or replace a clip on the grille itself is get a long skinny flathead, stick the flathead threw the grille slats and turn the clip 45 degrees like Dan mentioned. The clip will then pop out of the backside. To replace the clip you need to install it from the backside and twist it 45 degrees while pushing it inward. But none of this is necessary if you remove the grille as a whole
#25
i have a PS cooler sandwiched behind the grill so it's a little tight to get my hands in there...but yes james is correct that if you have small enough hands...you can squeeze the clips and it'll pop out.
#26
I went ahead and threw the radiator in over lunch, piece of cake, no issues to speak of.
Also noticed a oil leak on my old but clean driveway. Further inspection lead to the valve covers, all of the screws/bolts were loose - rear bank was the worst and where the leak was coming from. Time will tell if snugging them down does the trick.
The car never has put out warm air, and I read to check the vacuum lines at the water control valve, middle firewall.
Sure enough, they were all loose. Simple fix, cut a tad bit of the end of each, now we have heat, after all these years.....
My son wants to go with a SE grill and paint it black. eBay has them new for next to nothing.
Me, I'm thinking about hood pins to level out the hood -
Oh - Headlights, aim - it adjusted out fine. The glass is not perfectly the same with the other side, but heck, I'm kind of the same way.....
Also noticed a oil leak on my old but clean driveway. Further inspection lead to the valve covers, all of the screws/bolts were loose - rear bank was the worst and where the leak was coming from. Time will tell if snugging them down does the trick.
The car never has put out warm air, and I read to check the vacuum lines at the water control valve, middle firewall.
Sure enough, they were all loose. Simple fix, cut a tad bit of the end of each, now we have heat, after all these years.....
My son wants to go with a SE grill and paint it black. eBay has them new for next to nothing.
Me, I'm thinking about hood pins to level out the hood -
Oh - Headlights, aim - it adjusted out fine. The glass is not perfectly the same with the other side, but heck, I'm kind of the same way.....
#27
Made some time while in KC to stop at "Pick-N-Pull".
It's worth the price of admission just to wonder around and look at all the stuff.
The first Maxima I looked at was a 90, the emblem on the grill was off centered, to the drivers side I believe, and said "nissan".
The next one was a perfect match - It had one small bubble in the chrome, for $25.00, I'm not going to complain.
It's worth the price of admission just to wonder around and look at all the stuff.
The first Maxima I looked at was a 90, the emblem on the grill was off centered, to the drivers side I believe, and said "nissan".
The next one was a perfect match - It had one small bubble in the chrome, for $25.00, I'm not going to complain.
#28
the off-center NISSAN grille was on 89-91 models, 92-94 had the chrome
#29
Here's todays find -
And you know, it was not hard at all to remove.
Just pinched the clips -
Sure, had to hold my mouth just right.....
#30
"Gosh dern" alarm went off 4 times last night. My wife woke me and told me about it once, my daughter woke me and told me about it once, my son woke me and told me about it once - at least I was able to sleep through it one time.
It was 4:00AM, after the 4th time, that I went out and disconnected the hood switch.
Oh well, I'm up, never been good at getting back to sleep.....
It was 4:00AM, after the 4th time, that I went out and disconnected the hood switch.
Oh well, I'm up, never been good at getting back to sleep.....
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