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Old Jan 18, 2002 | 12:55 AM
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Missing the sport in "4-dr Sports Car"

My max (92 SE auto) is really slow off the line..doesn't start to feel like a V-6 until 3500 rpms or so, really disappointing. It also sucks in overdrive: the transmission is constantly shifting to keep up with speed changes, even slight ones. Anybody else encounter these probs? Let me know if you have an idea about what might be wrong.
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 06:10 AM
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when was the last time u had a tune up, and changed your tranny fluid?
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 07:39 AM
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My car had the same problems. A tune-up (fuel, air filter and plugs) helped but getting a Cold Air Intake and a new Y-pipe made an enormous difference in my eyes. As far as shifting goes, you just have to learn how much gas to apply to prevent massive amounts of shifting in certain situations. Hope that helps.
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 08:23 AM
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ok, here's your problem. . . .you ready? . . . . . .AUTO. . . . .
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 09:17 AM
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i feel ya man

i had to get rid of my max due to a slippin auto tranny

i have a manuel teg hybrid and i love it
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 09:46 AM
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Heh, yeah, face it:

VE auto = no ***** off the line, it's pretty much a fact you're gonna have to deal with

However, TC time for me is coming up soon, no more of that problem for meeee
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 12:08 PM
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Hey jrodder, do you turn off the O/D while driving in the city? Anything under ~45-50 MPH you should have the O/D off, that will prevent most of the gear hunting.

The VE engine is in it's element in the upper RPM range. Freeway speeds are fun, and moreso with a 5-speed.

Old Jan 18, 2002 | 12:27 PM
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Re: Missing the sport in "4-dr Sports Car"

Originally posted by jrodder
My max (92 SE auto) is really slow off the line..doesn't start to feel like a V-6 until 3500 rpms or so, really disappointing. It also sucks in overdrive: the transmission is constantly shifting to keep up with speed changes, even slight ones. Anybody else encounter these probs? Let me know if you have an idea about what might be wrong.
1. Your driving an automagic (automatic)
2. See above
3. Buy a Protorque higher stall convertor and run 205-50-15 tires
4. Buy a JWT ECU
AFter these steps your max will pull alot quicker off the line. Besides real sports car's have manual trannys .
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 12:30 PM
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Lordrandall, are you serious about the O/D off under about 50mph??! I was just curious because I always thought you should leave it on and only turn it off when you are cruising on the highway. Doesn't it put more strain on the tranny? Man, I guess I've had it backwards all this time! If it doesn't put a lot of strain on the tranny, I'm gonna have to have O/D off most of the time!
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 01:08 PM
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You want sport? get a 5 speed VE. That will show you sport. And your VE auto shouldnt be too slow. I know Mr.Nismo has a bone stock VE auto. And he is out there running with modded VQ 5 speeds.
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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i have to agree the car goes nowhere off the line (i have a 92 auto se), but once past 3k rpm its over! A little tidbit i find that helps a little for off the line punch (on autos) is while stopped, hold the brake good and hard with your left foot and press down slightly on the gas at the same time...rev to maybe about 1.5-2k. Then when green, release the brake and stay on the gas. This should help a little, and its alot better than a Neutral drop...it wont kill the tranny.
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow1198
Lordrandall, are you serious about the O/D off under about 50mph??! I was just curious because I always thought you should leave it on and only turn it off when you are cruising on the highway. Doesn't it put more strain on the tranny? Man, I guess I've had it backwards all this time! If it doesn't put a lot of strain on the tranny, I'm gonna have to have O/D off most of the time!
O/D off while you are crusing around in the city, O/D on while you are on the freeway. If you leave the O/D off all the time, your gas mileage will SUCK in freeway driving.
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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Thanks Lordrandall! I've just had it backwards. Man, I'm going to leave O/D off tonight and it will feel like I gained 40mhp (mental HP!)
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 04:33 PM
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How to jump off the line

For best start off the line with auto maxima, power brake with left foot, rev up a little to 2000-3000 rpm have it it 1st gear not drive, have 0/D off and have power on. Should get a decent jump off the line a small squeal of the tires and the jump on whoever your racing. This is how I do it anyway works for me! Just shift it to 2nd then drive as you need to and your on your way.
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 05:58 PM
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I really hope you don't believe that!!!! trust me....I know from experience....
DON'T DO THIS!!!!!

Originally posted by Maximan190
and its alot better than a Neutral drop...it wont kill the tranny.
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
I really hope you don't believe that!!!! trust me....I know from experience....
DON'T DO THIS!!!!!

meaning dont do a Neutral drop? yes i agree DONT DO IT
Old Jan 18, 2002 | 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by Maximan190
meaning dont do a Neutral drop? yes i agree DONT DO IT
Brake torqing OR neutral drop (revving it up in neutral and "drop" it into D) are both BAD
Old Jan 19, 2002 | 01:31 PM
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I agree! I did this about 2 times, and both on accident because my stupid friend was playing with me and slipped it in neutral (when I wasn't looking). Anyways, long story short, it killed my tranny. I know I was coming up on a tranny rebuild but that neutral drop sure speeded the process up!
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 12:35 AM
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I didnt say do a nuetral drop I know that is bad duh! just shifting 1st, second then drive, just be carefull not to go into neutral!
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 01:29 AM
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Thanks Lordrandall! I've just had it backwards. Man, I'm going to leave O/D off tonight and it will feel like I gained 40mhp (mental HP!)
What are you talking about?

Highway travel, have the O/D on, meaning the little light on your das is NOT lit.

City travel, have the O/D off, the light on your dash IS lit.

**Light conditions taken from 5th gen Max, sorry I don't own a 3rd gen Auto**

Thank all that is holy.
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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Thats exactly what I meant Lordrandall. I don't know if I said it backwards or anything. I was just kidding around saying I was going to leave O/D off while I was doing city driving (under about 55mph), just so it makes my car feel faster! I mean, with O/D off, my car pulls a LOT harder and is noticeably faster. I don't know how normal that is for all VG's but it does seem a little faster with O/D off.
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Maximan190
meaning dont do a Neutral drop? yes i agree DONT DO IT
torque braking is bad as well....by doing this you are KILLING your torque converter!!!! basically your turning the TC, yet holding the brake prevents the car from moving thus HEAT builds up, and eventually your TC goes...... capiche! for the best starts do a flash stall, its safe and effective!
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 01:04 PM
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this whole O/D thing...

Ive got sum Q's about this too...
First of all I never drive with that light on..never...is that bad?
The only time I ever use it is if I need a boost of power, and when I turn it on, it works, I get a little jump...so how is it really supposed to be...can I have the light off all the time? Im so confused!
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 01:55 PM
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Re: this whole O/D thing...

Originally posted by MaximaBella
Ive got sum Q's about this too...
First of all I never drive with that light on..never...is that bad?
The only time I ever use it is if I need a boost of power, and when I turn it on, it works, I get a little jump...so how is it really supposed to be...can I have the light off all the time? Im so confused!
the only thing overdrive does when its off is disables 4th gear and sets the shifts higher in the rpm. its not going to instantly give u 10hp or anything.
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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Oh, I know. I just mean it feels faster.
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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Hey DA-MAX, You're going to have to explain what a flash stall is to those that don't have a clue what you're talking about. I know exactly what you mean , but just in case someone else doesn't know!
Old Jan 20, 2002 | 08:08 PM
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Hey DA-MAX, You're going to have to explain what a flash stall is to those that don't have a clue what you're talking about. I know exactly what you mean , but just in case someone else doesn't know!
yea
Old Jan 21, 2002 | 12:00 AM
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Hmm... there's only so many ways of launching an auto car, I imagine this would be just the regular "mash the pedal" approach, but we'll see what he says...

(darn it! where's that article I had on TCs... )
Old Jan 22, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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Re: this whole O/D thing...

Originally posted by MaximaBella
Ive got sum Q's about this too...
First of all I never drive with that light on..never...is that bad?
The only time I ever use it is if I need a boost of power, and when I turn it on, it works, I get a little jump...so how is it really supposed to be...can I have the light off all the time? Im so confused!
City driving, light on
Highway driving, light off

Old Sep 23, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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where is the fuel filter located?

hello,
anyone know where the fuel filter is, i ordered a chiltons...just dont got it yet and it probably shows where it is..huh.?
anyhow.. anyhelp greatly appreciated =)
thanx
Old Sep 23, 2002 | 05:29 PM
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Re: where is the fuel filter located?

Originally posted by 1994 se lover
hello,
anyone know where the fuel filter is, i ordered a chiltons...just dont got it yet and it probably shows where it is..huh.?
anyhow.. anyhelp greatly appreciated =)
thanx
yeah it'll tell you in the chiltons manual

until then, check out my page
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte671n/mymax.html
go to the how-to section
scroll all the way down to ECCS components link
choose VG30E components and it'll show you a pic with lots of good stuff for your engine bay
Old Sep 23, 2002 | 09:49 PM
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Neutral bombing and torque braking are also a good way to ruin motor and tranny mounts. I'm also curious to hear about this "flash stall" tactic. Glad to own a 5sp.
Old Sep 23, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
I really hope you don't believe that!!!! trust me....I know from experience....
DON'T DO THIS!!!!!

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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 02:38 PM
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Well, sidestepping the clutch at high rpm with manual tranny for maximum acceleration is equally bad for clutch and drivetrain. Do it sparingly, though, that ought to be OK. So do occasional brake torquing automatic tranny. Car magazines use it to obtain maximum acceleration. Just remember each use will shorten the life of certain components on your car, and be prepared to pay for it! I guess in this case it's the same as using Nitrous, except with Nitrous the effect (both in acceleration and in wear!) is even greater.
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