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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 01:39 PM
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Jeff made very good numbers while still N/A. I want to say my old black VE dyno'd 180 whp and 185 ft lbs of torque with intake/exhaust/underdrive pulley. I can't remember what type of dyno that was on though. And it had massive heat soak that day, I was surprised it did 180 whp.

What mods did it have for those dyno runs?

His car reminds me of Hadman's VE. You guys are really going to town. I should have my engine back in by this weekend as well. Going to try to start my engine break-in on Saturday. What type of break-in is Jeff doing?
Old Jul 7, 2015 | 02:31 PM
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I had 2.5" warpspeed y pipe no cat 2.5" pipe all the way back. hot air intake . Advanced timing i think 5 degrees.. when u ask how am i gonna brake in my engine what you mean
Old Jul 7, 2015 | 02:43 PM
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Well this weekend towing car to my work so we can put on lift and fabricate all the piping to weld
Old Jul 7, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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I had 2.5" warpspeed y pipe no cat 2.5" pipe all the way back. hot air intake . Advanced timing i think 5 degrees.. when u ask how am i gonna brake in my engine what you mean
Well, you've got a rebuilt engine right (I know you at least went 20 over on your block and have z32 pistons with new rings)?

The break-in refers to the first start-up and few hundred miles on the new engine. That period of time is critical to good piston ring seal specifically.

There are two camps: one that says absolutely baby your engine for a few hundred miles, this would be a "soft" break-in. Then there is an emerging camp these days that advocate for a "hard" break-in.

The hard break-in goes something along these lines:

Start engine up (with break-in oil of course), let it warm up to operating temp, then immediately take it on a 20-30 mile drive putting varying loads on the engine. Accelerate in gear about 75% throttle up pretty high into the powerband (though not to redline), and then decelerate IN GEAR back down. Do variations of this at various engine load/gear ranges. After this 20-30 mile drive, come back, change the oil, etc.

Decelerating IN GEAR is, evidently, vitally important to proper ring seal. If the cylinder walls get "glazed" during initial break-in you'll forever have terrible ring seal and in turn excessive blow-by etc. About the last thing you want for good ring-seal is to start the engine up and let it idle for an hour or to immediately take it on a long highway cruise at a constant speed type of thing.

What I stated above isn't meant to be an exhaustive guide but is the basic premise of the hard break-in. There are endless arguments all over the internet about which style of break-in is better. The "soft" break-in seems to be a bit of old-school think and you'll still find old hot rod guys doing this style break-in.

Personally, I'm leaning toward a more "hard" break-in myself.
Old Jul 7, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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Agree ive always ran mine at 2000rpm 10 mins first start up change oil then ride normal to hard after that no cruising for 50 miles. game over your rings should be done seated in those first ten minutes for the most part
Old Jul 7, 2015 | 04:47 PM
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Back when i was in school we built 350s dynoed them right off the build made several runs with mods nitrous etc. Cylinders were perfect
Old Jul 7, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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wow good luck guys. i think i'm getting too old to tinker with the car.

now i'm just kinda itching for another car.
Old Jul 7, 2015 | 05:46 PM
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Yeah same here this is just my dads car he bought in 1989 ive been driving since 16 now 33 she my baby
Old Jul 7, 2015 | 06:03 PM
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I'm pump up to finish. James92SE make a video of your first crank n etc....
P.s. make video longer then 15 seconds tho lol.

I'm posting more videos on my youtude channel soon just to help other 3rd gens.
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Originally Posted by DanNY
i think i'm getting too old to tinker with the car.

now i'm just kinda itching for another car.
Blasphemy!
Old Jul 8, 2015 | 04:29 AM
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James short videos...lol
Old Jul 8, 2015 | 07:09 PM
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James what you using for egr delete or where can i find a plate
Old Jul 8, 2015 | 08:32 PM
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I don't have an EGR delete. I have all my emissions crap still, as I have to still do emissions down here for another 3 years

But you can make your own out of virtually any little piece of metal. Just scribe your holes for the studs and screw the plate down in place of your EGR. You can seal it up with some RTV or something under the plate.
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Also forgot to mention, there's probably tons of EGR deletes on eBay etc that are advertised as being for 240's and/or other more popular Nissans that should fit the Maxima
Old Jul 9, 2015 | 05:49 PM
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 08:34 PM
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Haha propane bottle keeping engine level
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Originally Posted by James92SE
Blasphemy!
kinda itching for a E92 M3.
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Originally Posted by James92SE
Also forgot to mention, there's probably tons of EGR deletes on eBay etc that are advertised as being for 240's and/or other more popular Nissans that should fit the Maxima
yup i used the 240SX EGR delete plate and it's was a perfect fit. even came with the little gasket.
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Well I've been working pretty much non-stop for the past week getting my car driveable. I'm doing the engine break-in naturally aspirated. Got my stock injectors in, no turbo stuff, etc. I'm gonna try to put some mileage on it while N/A over these next few weeks or months, then when my gearset comes in I'll put all the turbo stuff back on at that point.

Since I didn't want to pull my full exhaust and because I have the stock y-pipe in for the break-in, I welded up a little adapter to adapt my factory y-pipe to my 3" exhaust.

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Did that tonight after work, now tomorrow all I've got to do is add coolant, PS fluid, and a few other odds and ends in the morning and hopefully will do my initial startup and break-in tomorrow. Sure hope it doesn't self-disintegrate on me at first startup

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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 01:05 AM
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Nice
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 09:55 PM
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Started right up tonight, what a relief. Sounded about how I'd expect a VE to sound that has been sitting or is brand new and isn't all oiled up everywhere. I had my brother start it up while I filmed and topped off the fluids, so my camera work isn't the best as I was messing with the power steering fluid as he was turning lock to lock to bleed it.

Once it warmed up I immediately took it on a 30 mile "hard" break-in with lots of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gear pulls making sure to decelerate IN gear often. I was really expecting some loss in low end power but if anything it actually feels more powerful and I never even fully went WOT in it. By the time I made it back home the engine had quieted down nicely.
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Also, Jeff, it looks like you have your REAR injector harness on the front?
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Yeah ifigured that out
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Nice James. Video was great thanks.
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Nice job guys. So Tony you cut out your bumper some around the intercooler? Got any closer up pictures?

And Jeff, you do a maiden voyage break-in yet?
Old Jul 12, 2015 | 06:24 PM
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Me no i put the 550cc injectors in im surprised it actually ildes 2000 rpm is all she will do then it bogs down lol i did 10min 1800rpm idle changed the oil and filter backed it in garage gotta order nistune soon if i wasnt leavin to alabama the middle of the week id take her to the shop so we can get the piping done
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James what is your tripod meant to fit for the guages
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James what is your tripod meant to fit for the guages
It's meant for the 3rd gen. Shockingly Lotek made it for these cars back in the day.

Heck, it might actually still be available. Look up Lotek. Like I said it's actually made for the 3rd gen
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Wow they look to still be available

http://www.gaugepods.com/nissan.html
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I cut all of the red line.
Old Jul 13, 2015 | 06:08 AM
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Will james i ordered it maybe they still have them cheap price too
Old Jul 13, 2015 | 06:09 AM
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Hey tony i see the hammer on floor under car lol
Old Jul 13, 2015 | 06:20 AM
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Will james i ordered it maybe they still have them cheap price too
Do you need MORE gauges? It looked like in your videos you've already got gauges in your glove box door or maybe dashboard?
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I cut all of the red line.
I meant your actual bumper (cover), any pictures of that with it all installed like in your video?
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Hey tony i see the hammer on floor under car lol
Lol
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Originally Posted by James92SE
I meant your actual bumper (cover), any pictures of that with it all installed like in your video?
Sorry no pic but I cut the same amount on bumper cover and Styrofoam



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