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Old 03-22-2002 | 11:15 AM
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New Recall Update

I`m back!!!!!!!!!!!!
For those who have been following, here`s whats going on now.
I just got off the phone with Nissan corporate and they want to buy it back for, are you ready for this, $945.
I told them to suck an egg and fix the damn thing.
They said the damage is close to $4000 in repairs, but that they could only offer me BLUE BOOK value even tho it would save them time and money if they just split the cost with me. STUPID PEOPLE.
I`m going to get a free loaner car also.
I did mention keeping the car and giving me the $945 and they said maybe.
So as it stands now, if I have them fix the car its going to be another month or better before I get her back. DAMN THIS SUCKS.
Well thats all for now, I`ll keep y`all informed, LATER
Old 03-23-2002 | 08:02 AM
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That must really suck man, I couldn't imagine parting out my car unless it was for a bimmer or a really nice car. But I'd still probably keep my Max anyway. What you think you gonna do? 4000 is pretty steep.
Old 03-23-2002 | 11:06 AM
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i kinda forgot to read the firstone, cliff notes on your incedent?
Old 03-23-2002 | 12:12 PM
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Heres a link to the last thread about this problem http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=106401
But heres the short story
What the deal is I have an 89GXE with a gas filler tube recall with some VERY extensive rust damage because of it.
Dealer says cost to fix is more than cars worth.
My options are- make them fix it or they can buy it back from me,
ie. total it.
they only want to give me $945 for the car but damage could exceed $4000.
They have been ****ing me around for over a month and I had to call corporate on thier asses but finaly got at least some answers.
Dealer is supposed to get back to me on MON. or TUES. to get the final decision.
I`ll keep y`all posted
Old 03-24-2002 | 09:26 AM
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NNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

If this is what I have comin than this will be the last Maxima I own. They seem to be giving me the same runaround so far!! They haven't had the guy from corporate come and look at it but they said that if the damage is beyond what they want to fix they just won't fix it, period, end of story... Sounds like a bunch of bull$hit to me.
Old 03-24-2002 | 06:10 PM
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THAT IS A BUNCH OF BULLSCHIT

They have to fix it, no matter what!
It is a factory recall with no age or mileage or condition limitations.
And if the damage is too bad and they want to buy it back, it is YOUR choice as to what happens ie. fix or not.
Call the corporate # and they will SPLAIN it and set the dealer right.
The body shop manager wont even talk to me at the moment he`s so ****ed.
I`m going out there tomorrow and take some pics of the damage before they start. And if they try and do a schit job, I`m gettin in thier assses. THATS RIGHT
Old 03-24-2002 | 08:13 PM
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You know, i went to that site that has all of the recalls and that recall from the looks of it is for all 3rd gens. I put in my 1990 maxima and it had that recall on it. May have to go get that checked out.
Old 03-24-2002 | 08:18 PM
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a lil off topic

i remember readin about the old thread a while back and in the process of visiting tha NHTSA website, i filled out a form to recall our crappy VTC's and i remember a few other people doing that. Has anyone recieved anything in the mail yet and from the looks of it, it is a defective device on the Max, but its not a safety related defect!! Which means the dream of gettin that $2000 job fixed for free is not gonna be reality. THAT SUCKS LIKE A HOOVER!!!
Old 03-24-2002 | 08:41 PM
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You could somehow get it to be a safety realated problem. I think i've heard people saying that it's possible that the VTC's can "blow up" and in turn, would that ruin the engine making it stop and if you were if heavy traffic you would slow down or possibly if your engine locked up from the timing going crazy stop the car really fast making it a safety problem. I don't know though, just my thoughts. I don't own a VE so i haven't really looked into them that much. All of that is just from my understanding of something supposedly "blowing up".
Old 03-24-2002 | 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by mtcookson
You could somehow get it to be a safety realated problem. I think i've heard people saying that it's possible that the VTC's can "blow up" and in turn, would that ruin the engine making it stop and if you were if heavy traffic you would slow down or possibly if your engine locked up from the timing going crazy stop the car really fast making it a safety problem. I don't know though, just my thoughts. I don't own a VE so i haven't really looked into them that much. All of that is just from my understanding of something supposedly "blowing up".
I don't think so.

Even if it's not a safety recall the protocol should be the same. They should treat every recall the same as the next. Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be very good treatment. They don't want to fix a 12 year old car, they want to put me in a new one. No thanks...
Old 03-24-2002 | 09:09 PM
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mtcookson: I think it is an ALL 3rd Gen recall, and I would check it out fer sure. Call the 800# and see if your car ever had it done.
I urge all 3rd gen owners to check out all the recalls on your vehicle.
Everyone should call on the same day too. Lets see how they deal with that one.
If there`s anyone in the Cinci area DO NOT TAKE IT TO FALHABER NISSAN,
they are a bunch of rude asssholes that dont know how to treat a customer, and Im going to make sure they pay out the **** for this job if I can.
Lord help them if its a shhhitty job too
Old 03-24-2002 | 09:17 PM
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mtcookson: I think it is an ALL 3rd Gen recall, and I would check it out fer sure. Call the 800# and see if your car ever had it done.
I urge all 3rd gen owners to check out all the recalls on your vehicle.
Everyone should call on the same day too. Lets see how they deal with that one.
If there`s anyone in the Cinci area DO NOT TAKE IT TO FALHABER NISSAN,
they are a bunch of rude asssholes that dont know how to treat a customer, and Im going to make sure they pay out the **** for this job if I can.
Lord help them if its a shhhitty job too
You are so bent!! I need to be more aggressive about this... maybe you could call my local dealer for me??
No, really. I'm with you on making them pay. I've been treated pretty rudely as well and I'm not letting them get away with it.

I don't think dealerships like recalls much, especially on 12 & 13 year old cars. What do you think??!
Old 03-24-2002 | 10:08 PM
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You are so bent!! I need to be more aggressive about this... maybe you could call my local dealer for me??
No, really. I'm with you on making them pay. I've been treated pretty rudely as well and I'm not letting them get away with it.

I don't think dealerships like recalls much, especially on 12 & 13 year old cars. What do you think??!
They`re pretty bent I`m sure, but it`s not my fault the factory flucked this up in the first place.
Its not my fault the previous owners didnt get it done sooner when there was less damage (its a 6 year old recall).
But they sure act like it is.
The shop manager even started cussing about the whole ordeal to me. Now I cuss like a damn trucker, (I used to be one hehehehe), but never on the job-to a customer. That is SOOOO unproffesional and disrespectful and DAMN RUDE.

I thought they informed the owner of any recalls even if its NOT the original owner.
My mother has a 98 mecury mystake that she bought last year and she has gotten a couple of recall notices.

If they wanna **** you around, call corporate on them, that`ll motivate em every time
Old 03-25-2002 | 12:08 AM
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damn this sounds like a nightmare gone from bad to worse. $hit i think i am gonna have to get my car checked too, i just hope that my dealership won't be like an a$$ like what i have just read. Just a thought, would this recall provide free rental cars, and maybe free lunch money
Old 03-25-2002 | 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by maxima_dumby
damn this sounds like a nightmare gone from bad to worse. $hit i think i am gonna have to get my car checked too, i just hope that my dealership won't be like an a$$ like what i have just read. Just a thought, would this recall provide free rental cars, and maybe free lunch money
I think that all depends on how you play your game, dig?
Old 03-25-2002 | 12:55 AM
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hey i was reading the nhtsa site about the recall and appearantly if the dealer refuse to do the job for free and correctly or even do it you can call the nhtsa and they will clear up the mess.

"If you believe that you are unable to have the recall work completed without charge, then please contact NHTSA, Step 3. You should also contact the NHTSA if you believe that the recall work has not corrected the safety defect."

So i guess we always have that as our last resort.
Old 03-25-2002 | 02:43 AM
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If Hubler doesn't do me right, I'm going to give Collins a try. If I can't get satisfactory results at my second attempt, someone's a$$ is gonna fry !

Old 03-25-2002 | 08:19 AM
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i'll be taking mine in for the recall....but first ...should i call in for an appointment or should i just take it in??? I kno for sure the dealer will try to bull**** me but they dont kno what they'll be in for if they do. Does this process take long to fix???
Old 03-25-2002 | 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by bjyang
i'll be taking mine in for the recall....but first ...should i call in for an appointment or should i just take it in??? I kno for sure the dealer will try to bull**** me but they dont kno what they'll be in for if they do. Does this process take long to fix???
Should I call in for an appointment? Probably not necessary.

Does this process take long to fix??? If you read the other discussions we've had about this you'll find that some people are without thier cars for more than a month before it even gets fixed. Expecct this process to take a long time as the wheels turn oh so slowly...
Old 03-25-2002 | 12:10 PM
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So do I just call the nhtsa to see if the recall work has been done on my car? If so, I probably would need to provide the VIN, correct? Thanks.
Old 03-25-2002 | 02:11 PM
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NOW THE FUN REALY BEGINS

I just got off the phone with Nissan Corp and lodged a formal complaint against Falhaber Nissan.
Again I got the run-around from the dealer.
This time I had to call them again to see what is being done to my car.
I was told that they are waiting on "conformation of parts" whatever the hell that means.
I stated that its been over 6 weeks since they`ve had my car could I get a loaner like we talked about the last time.
She said that they didnt have a loaner car at the moment but that "I" had to call the service dept. to see if they had one for me. I said "cant you do that" and they said no, they didnt have time to do it.
So again I said it been over 6 weeks and now you dont have time. She said (direct quote) "You know you didnt HAVE to leave the vehicle here, and if you want to come get it that was fine with me".
What kinda schit is that.
I`m now waiting for the owner to call me back, see if I can get somewhere with him.
I`ll be in touch
Old 03-25-2002 | 03:06 PM
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NOW THE BALL IS ROLLING
I just got off the phone with the "brother" of the owner (owner`s out of town) and heres what was said.
I explained the whole story which took about 20 minutes.
And he said BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, I`ll get back to ya.

NO LOVE.
I`m tired of the ole I`ll get back to ya.

Sounds like my lawyer is the one to call next.
Old 03-25-2002 | 03:42 PM
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So do I just call the nhtsa to see if the recall work has been done on my car? If so, I probably would need to provide the VIN, correct? Thanks.
To see if the recall was ever done you need to call the Nissan Corporate 800# and give them your vin. Then if you need it done go to the dealer.
I called but they said no appointment needed
GOOD LUCK
Old 03-25-2002 | 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by bucketheadd
NOW THE BALL IS ROLLING
I just got off the phone with the "brother" of the owner (owner`s out of town) and heres what was said.
I explained the whole story which took about 20 minutes.
And he said BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, I`ll get back to ya.

NO LOVE.
I`m tired of the ole I`ll get back to ya.

Sounds like my lawyer is the one to call next.
I hate to say this bro but you need to go get your car adn try dealer #2. Don't tell them about the run around you've gotten so far. If dealer #2 doesn't produce immediate results, you need to turn them both into Nissan of America. I have been cooresponding with a lady that works for NofA and she saidthey don't tolerate that kind of crap aand that if it is reported than the dealership is cited and that kind of stuff counts against them. Big name dealerships can't afford that kind of slander from thier own boss...
Old 03-27-2002 | 11:45 PM
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OK BOYS IT`S LAWYER TIME
Talked to the owners brother on Monday and he said "I`ll get back to ya"
Well he got back to me and it was a doosy.
He said I have 3 options now.
#1. Take the $945.00 and give them the car.
#2. Get $4400.00 worth of work on my car before they will do the work on it.
#3. Take the car and go away.
He said that my car needs $4400.00 worth of body and frame work before they can repair my car and that it was Nissan who said this, not him.
I told him he would be hearing from my lawyer and he told me not to have her call there, but to call the corporate #, thats who made the decision.
What a crock of schit. I`ve been in contact with corporate this whole time and they have said nothing about me needing work done on it first. They already authorized it to be done.
I tried to get ahold of my corporate rep.yesturday but NO LOVE.
And no call back from him today either.
Lawyer was in court all day today but is aware and will get back to me because she`s cool AND she LOVES my money .
I WILL NOT LET THIS DIE
All I realy wanted to begin with was them to fix my gas leak. Wasnt realy concerned about the seatbelt anchor. They brought up the body work and all that stuff.
Now they went and pished me off.
I`ll keep y`all updated. LATER
Old 03-28-2002 | 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by bucketheadd
OK BOYS IT`S LAWYER TIME
Talked to the owners brother on Monday and he said "I`ll get back to ya"
Well he got back to me and it was a doosy.
He said I have 3 options now.
#1. Take the $945.00 and give them the car.
#2. Get $4400.00 worth of work on my car before they will do the work on it.
#3. Take the car and go away.
He said that my car needs $4400.00 worth of body and frame work before they can repair my car and that it was Nissan who said this, not him.
I told him he would be hearing from my lawyer and he told me not to have her call there, but to call the corporate #, thats who made the decision.
What a crock of schit. I`ve been in contact with corporate this whole time and they have said nothing about me needing work done on it first. They already authorized it to be done.
I tried to get ahold of my corporate rep.yesturday but NO LOVE.
And no call back from him today either.
Lawyer was in court all day today but is aware and will get back to me because she`s cool AND she LOVES my money .
I WILL NOT LET THIS DIE
All I realy wanted to begin with was them to fix my gas leak. Wasnt realy concerned about the seatbelt anchor. They brought up the body work and all that stuff.
Now they went and pished me off.
I`ll keep y`all updated. LATER
Seatbelt anchor? Man, you never mentioned that, did you? Well, that's what's wrong with mine. That's how I discovered the problem. Oh, no no no no no no no no no no don't tell me that...
What was the $4400 worth of body work for? The damage caused by Nissan's faulty part? WTF WTF WTF??? WTF is the point in a recall if they aren't gonna fix it? If my Maxima doesn't get fixed I'm gonna go out and buy a Honda (J/K, but I'm almost that ****ed). Let me/us know what your lawyer says... this is starting to be like a soap opera or something.
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Originally posted by nismo1989


this is starting to be like a soap opera or something.
Instead of "DALLAS" it`s "DEALERS"

And this guy thinks he`s J.R. trying to get dirty with me.
Old 04-01-2002 | 08:03 PM
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OK now for the latest news from dealership hell.
The have upped the offer to $1500 but not a penny more. My lawyer says there is nothing we can do about the work that needs done first (the $4400 from before).
Looks like the consumer takes it in the **** again.
I should know the final outcome of this tomorrow, till then.
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do you know what exactly need to be fixed that costs 4400?
Old 04-01-2002 | 08:55 PM
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Re: New Recall Update

what problem has the rust cause on the filler tube. because i've noticed that when i fill up my tank, right as the last part of my tank is about to fill to the rim, i notice that a substantial amount of gas leaked onto to ground. could this be the same problem. it doesn't occur when i fill my tank less than 3/4 full. ????
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Originally posted by bucketheadd
OK now for the latest news from dealership hell.
The have upped the offer to $1500 but not a penny more. My lawyer says there is nothing we can do about the work that needs done first (the $4400 from before).
Looks like the consumer takes it in the **** again.
I should know the final outcome of this tomorrow, till then.
You still haven't said what they are talking about when they say that you have 4400 woth of damage that needs to be replaced first. And if that were the case, then why would they offer you anything? What is the 4400 damage for??? Let me know so I know not to get the same runaround...
Old 04-03-2002 | 12:23 PM
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i was told by NofA that there was no recall campaign for my car (1990 Maxima SE)
Old 04-03-2002 | 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by mtcookson
i was told by NofA that there was no recall campaign for my car (1990 Maxima SE)
...then it's already been fixed. Consider it a blessing.
Old 04-03-2002 | 02:33 PM
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What is costing the $4400...

For those who are wondering what the $4400 cost is all about, here goes: The recall is for the replacement of the gas filler tube which ONLY CARS REGISTERED IN THE NORTH (the salt belt) rusts through allowing gas to leak when being filled or even while driving. The major problem though is that in order for a new filler tube to be insatalled by Nissan, many of these 11-13 year old maximas are so rusted out (in places underneath the outer body) that there is nothing to mount the filler tube to. This means that for some cars, Nissan will have to fix the rust in order to complete the recall. My car has been at a Nissan Dealer since mid Janurary and is scheduled to get fixed next week. I have been in college without my car so I havent been pressuring them to make it a big priority. The job involves 68 hours of labor and the "parts" are 2 new rear wheel wells parts of the frame and anything rusted from the backseat to the rear of the car.
Buckethead, good luck on your legal affairs. I hope you stick it to that dealership.
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Re: What is costing the $4400...

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Buckethead, good luck on your legal affairs. I hope you stick it to that dealership.
AND NOW FOR THE CONCLUSION

My daughter just came into town so I`ve been busy with her but for all those who have been folowing here it is.
The $4400 is for rockers, rear framerails and the entire trunk pan.
They said there was nothing for them to weld onto.
What they said they are authorized to fix is $2700 worth of repairs including filler tube and wheel well and seatbelt anchor on drivers side ONLY. I asked about the other side and they said that wasnt because of the filler tube leaking. My argument is the entire rear of the vehicle is trashed BECAUSE of that recall problem.
Anyway they are not going to fix it untill I get the other stuff done which is not going to happen.
The latest offer was $1500 for the vehicle and I`m going to take it.
I can put the money to good use on other vehicls I own, or get that motorcycle I`ve been looking at .
I sold my last bike when my girl was born so its been awhile since I`ve rode on 1,but I think I`ll remember how (hehehehe).
I took the digital dash out before it went to the dealer so if anyone needs one here it is. Just had it fixed, works like a cherm, first $100 bucks takes it.
Heres some pics of it in action http://communities.msn.com/buckethea...hoto&PhotoID=1 .
In conclusion, I will not be on the org much, unless I buy another MAX. I`ll probably poke my head in now and again just to see whats shakin unless its like the Catholic Church, if you divorce you`re outta the club type of thing.
Some are probably calling me a sellout but I`m tired of this fight, its not going anywhere, and I`m a greedy smurf ya know.
My lawyer advised me to take the money and run also and I trust his judgement. He said if I press this issue thru him he will get a third of the money anyway so I`m comming out ahead another way I guess.
I`m going to sign the paperwork tomorrow and then its a done deal.
GOOD LUCK to all on the org, and thanks for any help you guys have given me and hope I have helped some along the way without just saying "USE THE DAMN SEARCH BUTTON" I hate that.
And I made it to Maxima Enthusiast status WITHOUT post whoring.
LATER
PS DA-MAX take your trophy already and be nice to mtcookson
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Where's my cornerstone now????
I'm gonna keep fighting. Good luck to you buddy. Thanks for your help and support. Next time buy something German, damnit
I'm going to push off any repairs until after the IndyMax meet, but this summer that stuff has gotta get fixed. Thanks for all your updates buckethead. If it weren't for you I'm sure a lot of newbies might have never heard of the recall or known how to find out about it...
Old 04-03-2002 | 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by nismo1989

Where's my cornerstone now????
Have I let you down? Sorry dude. It`s still not a done deal yet, nothing has been signed, so you never know. I`ll be around for a few days till its settled.
I sure hope someone from Nissan Corp has seen this whole ordeal unfold on these pages. Let them see how the customer is being handled by THIER REPRESENTETIVES. I WILL NEVER DO BIZ AT ANOTHER NISSAN DEALERSHIP. You`ll be hard pressed to get me in another Nissan, and I`ve owned a few Sentra`s and a couple 4x4s,I even had an old Datsun B210, so I`m no newbie to Nissans.
And yes some of the money is going to fixing the trans in my Scirocco.
Its an 87 16V little monster.
If you have seen my pics on the digital dash then you might have noticed pics of a trans in there too. Thats from the Rocco.
When`s the Indy meet? I might go just for schitz and giggles as I`m not too far from Indy.
I`ve been itching to see the 500 again too. Last time I was there was about 15 years ago. What a flucking party.
Thanks for the props. At times I thought I might be a bit winded in my posts (like in this one ), but there was virtualy no info about recalls here, so I tried to give you guys all I knew and all I was finding out about this problem and my dealings with the powers that be.
Although, this whole experience has left a sour taste in my mouth, it was a learning experience too (you can teach an old dog new tricks).
Vehicle recalls is something I will be looking into before I buy another car, no matter who makes it. Nissans will get an extra-special lookover (the bastards) .
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The Indy meet is near Lafayette just north of the city. E:mail me and I'll send you all the info.
I've owned Nissans off and on for a while now, mostly just for under a year each, but I've been through two 510s, a 240, a NA Z, and a Sentra SE for about 2 weeks. Every time I think I know what's up with Nissan something like this makes me feel like a freakin newbie. I'm not giving up, though. I understand where you're coming from, and you're better off investing in your VW anyway.
Send me an e:mail and I'll get you that info, I know we would all love to have you there.
BTW: would that dig dash work in my max???
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Originally posted by nismo1989
BTW: would that dig dash work in my max???
The digi "would work" but its a whole mess of schit you gotta do ie. change the whole wiring harness or splicing in the correct wires(dont know if the later is possible), change the fuel sending sensor(or something like that)because the gauge wont read right, you might even have to swap out the AC/Heater controls also but not sure about that one.
If you`re up for the task then by all means go for it, I`ll sell you the dash, but I dont have the rest of the stuff, you`d need a donor car. Let me know
Old 04-04-2002 | 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by bucketheadd

The digi "would work" but its a whole mess of schit you gotta do ie. change the whole wiring harness or splicing in the correct wires(dont know if the later is possible), change the fuel sending sensor(or something like that)because the gauge wont read right, you might even have to swap out the AC/Heater controls also but not sure about that one.
If you`re up for the task then by all means go for it, I`ll sell you the dash, but I dont have the rest of the stuff, you`d need a donor car. Let me know
I'll stick with what I've got . Thanks, though!


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