i was referring to him saying a turbo car isnt reliable, i was just saying turbo vehicles from the factory are way more reliable then vehicles with aftermarket turbochargers/ktis.

 

exactly why I just want to do the z31 engine conversion. not just put stuff on the maxima engine.

 

All I was doing was giving my opinion on which would be a better upgrade. I was never even discussing which makes more hp or whatever, I just said that IMO the cryo treated VG with all the head work and alla that would be a better upgrade than a freakin turbo. I have 182K miles for cryin out loud. I totally have every intention of replacing my engine between 200 and 250K, and $4K for what appears to me to be a pretty indestructable engine sounds okay. Then maybe I could start dreamin about turbos and all of that...
I'm just being realistic cause I drive my car every day and I can't afford to destroy it.

 

What I was saying isn't BS. I just meant that with a turbo and n/a engine (same identical engine) the n/a might be faster. The Vg30et isn't quite the same engine as a Vg30e. I was kind of stating a hypothetical situation but I didn't mean that a n/a VG, against a Vg30et w/ the same HP, would win. I know the vg30et would.

 

Why would the turbo win?

 

from the sounds of what everyone is saying, torque.

 

VG30ET and VG30E are not the same.. even if they had the same HP, it's still not the same. END OF DISCUSSION

 

who said that??? there are plenty of Maxs running 300-350 right now...just like it takes the 1.8 to get to 500+ its takes 3.0 to get to 500+!!! I don't see why some of you get so confused about this.....

 

1. Vitaly's tubro VG 3rd gen(last I heard ~350)

2. Turbomax1's turbo VG 3rd gen (~290+ before it blew, I think)

3. Czar's turbo VE 3rd gen (~240 on a ~$1,000, virtually "homemade" turbo setup!)

not sure if you have heard about these 4th gen guys but...
3. Turbo97se's turbo 4th gen(I think he's making ~330 @ only 9si)

4. Don's N/A and NOS 4th gen (making around 325-350, runs low 12's on juice) and its AN AUTO

5. SX7r NOS 4th gen (~300 w/ 400+ torque I think)

6. Mardigrasmax SC/NOS 4th gen (~300+, runs 13.2s)

 

I'd just love to join this BSing contest, but it would be like blowing up whales with nukes in a barrel.. Just too easy.. LOL

 

You are all talk kiddo.

 

There's a whole world of Maxima's out there that most people are oblivious to. You know, T66 powered 3rd gens.. T78 powered 1st gens.. and stuff like that.. Oh wait, maybe you guys don't know them?

Hrm..

 

Can you help me put a T66 in my car? Do they sell those at Pep Boys? I'll buy you lunch!

 

Well, Trust/GReddy Japan makes a T66 manifold for the Z31.. Opps..

 

I'll keep that in mind.

 

Turbo97Max, is making 352hp and 349 ft-lbs of torque at 9.3psi with stock engine and tranny.


and i think this "500+ hp crx" is BS

 

why?? you obviously need to look deeper into import motorsports....I guess even the 11-12 sec all motor(and NO NOS) CRXs and Civics aren't a reality so why isn't a 500+ HP turbo'd one possible ...some of you need to take a step down from talking all of this "tech stuff" you think you know and do some real research that goes past reading SCC and Import Tuner mags....cause the more some of you talk the deeper you dig yourselfs! For your own sakes.....

 

Boost can be turned down you know..

 

you left out this part, it was from that same quote--->

"top secret internals" so that would explain the 1.6L ability to take the added stress now wouldn't it....

and just because the tach reads 8K doesn't mean thats its, technology is a wonderful thing....you have so much to learn!!!!

 

you're not listening....since he said he used "sceret internals" obviously the engine is strong enough to handel the added stress of being able to rev into the high 9Ks...its nothing new!!! having an aftermarket tach is irrelevant....

 

dont tell me to look deeper into import motorsports like you are some god, i know exactly how capable hondas with swaps are, i wasnt saying a car like that couldnt exist, i just said i didnt believe he owned that car, a b16 with that much power wouldnt be too streetable.

i probably know more about hondas then you do.

 

you interpret what I said any way you want, I really don't care...but what you said was "and i think this "500+ hp crx" is BS" you put no effort behind it to say why, when its already evident that things like this do exist....so thats whay I said what I said...DEAL, I really don't care!

streetable might mean being able to drive it to and from the track andaround town like it says its his "weekend" car...it didn't say its daily driver!!

and lastly I don't give two goat ****s about how much you know about Hondas...big deal, do I own one?? should I care?? you could know everything, and come on here spitting "B16 this B16 that" and I wouldn't give a donkey **** about it...hmmmmm....last I checked this was a Maxima boards when did knowledge of Hondas even matter over here...

 

im saying any b16 with 530hp wouldnt be very streetable AT ALL, it prolly wouldnt make it to and from the track more than once, let alone be driven every weekend, im not trying to throw crap in peoples faces about how much i know about this and that, it just seemed to me like that is what you were doing, i just got kinda p***ed. peace.

 

ohh, dude, my bad. i just read your post again and you quoted somebody else. sorry, i thought you were trying to say that was your car.

 

There are plenty of great 4cyl engines out there. I like Nissan's V6s for the torque, a lot of Honda owners love thiers for the high revs and hp to liter of dis. factor. I know what you mean, though...

 

what engine fits in a motorcycle.. i hope u dont mean honda 4 bangers.. because u need to take another look at a bike

 

huh...whats your point?? so what...a smaller engine is making more horespower than a bigger enigne whats so hard to understand

 

Dunno what to feel, pity, sorrow? Someone went to the bathroom when the brains were being passed out.

I guess all those 1,000hp 1300 liter F1 engines are the most pointless things around. Much less those 600hp Honda turbos that are terrorizing the drag strips now.

 

I give up, I'm just not understanding your logic.....how does engine size determine power out put once the owner "mods" the internals....how is it pointles?? its making 500+ HP, whats your point?? x10

 

man you really need to do some research....why would it have to be rebuilt every time?? as long as he used the proper internals it'll be fine....so you really think just because an engine is small its not as effective in holding high horsepower?? Wow.....you have a lot to learn....

 

I think you should just stop typing. You're making yourself seem less and less credible with each key stroke. Maybe do some research, then come back and talk. Oh by the way. F1 cars used to use 1300 CC engines back in the day. Rules may be different now, but thats how it used to be. But why would you want one of those small engines? Obviously our "big" V6's could destroy them..

 

1500CC 4 cylinder turbos+F1 = 1,000+hp for the duration of the whole race.

Mr2 2.0 liter turbos street driven 400hp+

SR20DETs 2.0 4 cylinder turbos. 200hp stock. 300hp+ easy. 350hp+ possible.

Many Honda turbos running 500hp+ at the race track. 400hp Honda Endyn Sc'd 4 cylinder motors. DAILY DRIVEN!

Merkur 2.4 liter turbo and SVO Mustang turbos. 175-220hp stock. Iron block and head + IC and boost controller = massive hp(300-400hp+)

DSM 2.0 turbos. about 190hp stock. Modded sky is the limit. Try 400hp+

Chrylser 4 cylinder turbos. 2.2 charger/GLH and minivan! Yes Minivan in the 12's. Do the freakin' math on how much hp is needed to get that damn brick into the 12s. He drove it there and then drove it home.

For the love of everything holy in this world, do some research before opening your hatch. If you get owned anymore you gonna have to start making payments!

 

OMG...please stop??? if you're using the same internals with the same specs under the same stresses(ie-driving conditions, boost, etc.)why would one last longer than the other just caue one engine has more liters??

once again WOW ....please do some more research!

 

okay you're right......of course you have no proof, but who needs proof when you're right!!! and you were gonna put together a turbo kit......

 

i think the main reason people try and get hp outta small 4cyl hondas is surprise factor, thats why i bought my maxima. i also was planning on getting a 5th gen civic hatch, gsr swap and boost will get you into the high 12's with only about 250hp. those things weigh just over 2k lbs. you wouldnt need much power to get it moving, but the people who usually get alot of power out of those engines are most of the time rich as hell and fully build the entire motor.

friend here in austin dropped a stock h22 prelude motor in his crx and and is running low 13's....stock.

 

What the hell does that got to do with anything moron!?


Not necessarily. If you knew a lug wrench from a stick in the mud, maybe you would realize that. It's how the engine is built.

You are a bigger idiot that I thought, no wonder the 4th-gen guys booted you from their forum. Again, if you knew ANYTHING about cars, you would know where the cars I was referring to was from. BUT YOU DON'T AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE AN ENGINE, MUST LESS YOU OWN LITTLE PEA-BRAINED HEAD OF YOURS.

WTF did I just say to you? Many of those cars are daily driven. WTF does that mean to you??

Laugh at me?? Right

 

BECAUSE WE KNOW "THEY" CAN DO IT. 500-600HP IN A MAXIMA IS CERTIANLY POSSIBLE. BUT AIN'T NO WAY IT'S COMING FROM YOU IN THE NEXT FEW LIFETIMES!

 

Because it was so PLAINLY clear from the beginning, it hurt my head. Now it's downright irritating!

 

If you have to ask, you are not going to understand my answer. Ponder that.

 

I'm offended! I'm a big red X!

See now instead of considering what I've said, you now just try to flame.

Didn't I tell you you to take about 2 years of classes before considering all this?? Or did that suggestion also fall on deaf ears?