Intake theory...
Intake theory...
After reading a bunch on intakes and the like, I have learned this:
POP intake = high end gains because of shorter intake piping
CAI intake = low end gains because of denser air, but a loss of high end gains due to turbulence in the long intake piping
In my case, I have a VG, which has plenty of low end for me, but the top end clearly needs work. So, a POP intake would be good for me, but I don't like the price for the POP ($100 for a filter and adapter). So here is what I am going to do. I am planning on buying the Warpspeed CAI ($155) and using it as a POP intake. This way I get a POP intake, plus the S-shaped piping from the intake plenum to the MAF senson. I could just buy the upper intake piping ($75), but then I need an adapter ($15) and a K&N filter ($35). I would end up spending almost as much as the CAI kit itself. By buying the CAI kit, I don't have to destroy my stock intake system in order to remove the resonator and if I don't like the setup, I can always just install the rest of the CAI kit and make it a true CAI. Any comments on my proposed setup?
POP intake = high end gains because of shorter intake piping
CAI intake = low end gains because of denser air, but a loss of high end gains due to turbulence in the long intake piping
In my case, I have a VG, which has plenty of low end for me, but the top end clearly needs work. So, a POP intake would be good for me, but I don't like the price for the POP ($100 for a filter and adapter). So here is what I am going to do. I am planning on buying the Warpspeed CAI ($155) and using it as a POP intake. This way I get a POP intake, plus the S-shaped piping from the intake plenum to the MAF senson. I could just buy the upper intake piping ($75), but then I need an adapter ($15) and a K&N filter ($35). I would end up spending almost as much as the CAI kit itself. By buying the CAI kit, I don't have to destroy my stock intake system in order to remove the resonator and if I don't like the setup, I can always just install the rest of the CAI kit and make it a true CAI. Any comments on my proposed setup?
Re: Intake theory...
Originally posted by Cincy94Max
After reading a bunch on intakes and the like, I have learned this:
POP intake = high end gains because of shorter intake piping
CAI intake = low end gains because of denser air, but a loss of high end gains due to turbulence in the long intake piping
In my case, I have a VG, which has plenty of low end for me, but the top end clearly needs work. So, a POP intake would be good for me, but I don't like the price for the POP ($100 for a filter and adapter). So here is what I am going to do. I am planning on buying the Warpspeed CAI ($155) and using it as a POP intake. This way I get a POP intake, plus the S-shaped piping from the intake plenum to the MAF senson. I could just buy the upper intake piping ($75), but then I need an adapter ($15) and a K&N filter ($35). I would end up spending almost as much as the CAI kit itself. By buying the CAI kit, I don't have to destroy my stock intake system in order to remove the resonator and if I don't like the setup, I can always just install the rest of the CAI kit and make it a true CAI. Any comments on my proposed setup?
After reading a bunch on intakes and the like, I have learned this:
POP intake = high end gains because of shorter intake piping
CAI intake = low end gains because of denser air, but a loss of high end gains due to turbulence in the long intake piping
In my case, I have a VG, which has plenty of low end for me, but the top end clearly needs work. So, a POP intake would be good for me, but I don't like the price for the POP ($100 for a filter and adapter). So here is what I am going to do. I am planning on buying the Warpspeed CAI ($155) and using it as a POP intake. This way I get a POP intake, plus the S-shaped piping from the intake plenum to the MAF senson. I could just buy the upper intake piping ($75), but then I need an adapter ($15) and a K&N filter ($35). I would end up spending almost as much as the CAI kit itself. By buying the CAI kit, I don't have to destroy my stock intake system in order to remove the resonator and if I don't like the setup, I can always just install the rest of the CAI kit and make it a true CAI. Any comments on my proposed setup?
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i got mine from dohccivicna1250. he uses real k&n filters. he also sells fstb. (5th gen fstb fits a 3rd gen VE.)
im using the intake piping and filter from a 90-93 accord, runs just like the stock but with the poilshed piping, you'll need an adapter too, or you could modify the brass one in your airbox.
i paid $35 on ebay for it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1819197277
oooorrrrr, you could buy the wsp cai, and if you dont want the extended pipe...you could sell it to me
i paid $35 on ebay for it.
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oooorrrrr, you could buy the wsp cai, and if you dont want the extended pipe...you could sell it to me
Re: Intake theory...
Originally posted by Cincy94Max
After reading a bunch on intakes and the like, I have learned this:
POP intake = high end gains because of shorter intake piping
CAI intake = low end gains because of denser air, but a loss of high end gains due to turbulence in the long intake piping
In my case, I have a VG, which has plenty of low end for me, but the top end clearly needs work. So, a POP intake would be good for me, but I don't like the price for the POP ($100 for a filter and adapter). So here is what I am going to do. I am planning on buying the Warpspeed CAI ($155) and using it as a POP intake. This way I get a POP intake, plus the S-shaped piping from the intake plenum to the MAF senson. I could just buy the upper intake piping ($75), but then I need an adapter ($15) and a K&N filter ($35). I would end up spending almost as much as the CAI kit itself. By buying the CAI kit, I don't have to destroy my stock intake system in order to remove the resonator and if I don't like the setup, I can always just install the rest of the CAI kit and make it a true CAI. Any comments on my proposed setup?
After reading a bunch on intakes and the like, I have learned this:
POP intake = high end gains because of shorter intake piping
CAI intake = low end gains because of denser air, but a loss of high end gains due to turbulence in the long intake piping
In my case, I have a VG, which has plenty of low end for me, but the top end clearly needs work. So, a POP intake would be good for me, but I don't like the price for the POP ($100 for a filter and adapter). So here is what I am going to do. I am planning on buying the Warpspeed CAI ($155) and using it as a POP intake. This way I get a POP intake, plus the S-shaped piping from the intake plenum to the MAF senson. I could just buy the upper intake piping ($75), but then I need an adapter ($15) and a K&N filter ($35). I would end up spending almost as much as the CAI kit itself. By buying the CAI kit, I don't have to destroy my stock intake system in order to remove the resonator and if I don't like the setup, I can always just install the rest of the CAI kit and make it a true CAI. Any comments on my proposed setup?
Re: Re: Intake theory...
Originally posted by Nismo87SE
Yes just run the CAI pipe from the MAF to the cone filter. No need for the tubing from TB to MAF. I dynoed a gain of 14fwhp/9fwtq average from 4000-5500rpm with a CAI over a cone filter intake on my 87 maxima. Even though your intake manifold is different you should see somewhat simular gains. You could put your theory to the test http://www.dynojet.com/lauto.shtml. Other than myself no one else has dynoed a pop style intake vs CAI on a VG/VE 3rd gen.
Yes just run the CAI pipe from the MAF to the cone filter. No need for the tubing from TB to MAF. I dynoed a gain of 14fwhp/9fwtq average from 4000-5500rpm with a CAI over a cone filter intake on my 87 maxima. Even though your intake manifold is different you should see somewhat simular gains. You could put your theory to the test http://www.dynojet.com/lauto.shtml. Other than myself no one else has dynoed a pop style intake vs CAI on a VG/VE 3rd gen.
holy **** thats a lot of power from just a different intake
Originally posted by skatanic28
they sell the cai without that other pipe i believe for cheaper
check out their site
they sell the cai without that other pipe i believe for cheaper
check out their site
Re: Re: Re: Intake theory...
Originally posted by skatanic28
14 fwhp
holy **** thats a lot of power from just a different intake
14 fwhp
holy **** thats a lot of power from just a different intake
Re: Re: Intake theory...
Originally posted by poorcollegeboy
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i got mine from dohccivicna1250. he uses real k&n filters. he also sells fstb. (5th gen fstb fits a 3rd gen VE.)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=1819154387
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=1819154395
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=1818913107
i got mine from dohccivicna1250. he uses real k&n filters. he also sells fstb. (5th gen fstb fits a 3rd gen VE.)
Thanks
Re: Re: Re: Re: Intake theory...
Originally posted by Nismo87SE
I had pics of it but I lost them but I still have my timeslips. With a cone filter intake +stock timing I dynoed 110fwhp/137fwtq. My baseline dyno with K&N panel and *5 timing advance was 112fwhp/140fwtq. With the cone filter my best at the drag strip was a 17.0 @ 79mph with a 2.5 60ft. With the CAI I ran a 16.7 @ 81mph with a 2.44 60ft. Matter of fact my 1/8 ET was 2 tenths better and 2mph higher.
I had pics of it but I lost them but I still have my timeslips. With a cone filter intake +stock timing I dynoed 110fwhp/137fwtq. My baseline dyno with K&N panel and *5 timing advance was 112fwhp/140fwtq. With the cone filter my best at the drag strip was a 17.0 @ 79mph with a 2.5 60ft. With the CAI I ran a 16.7 @ 81mph with a 2.44 60ft. Matter of fact my 1/8 ET was 2 tenths better and 2mph higher.
my N/A stock intake stock everything i ran 16.56@81+ mph.. i just got pop and yet havent gone to see if i benifited from the pop.. have to go to the track some time and see..
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