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Old 07-11-2002, 08:56 PM
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2002 Mustang GT, Now I need the "Y"

I have been pretty cocky when it comes to Mustang GT's. I have raced 4 different ones and won each time.
Here is the thing, I never have gone against the newer one. The 94-98 GT's(stock) are the ones I have taken. In 99 they beefed them up to like 260 hp, and I have never gone against one of those.
Well I got a taste of the new GT's, and he walked me pretty good. From a stop till about 60mph I ended up 3 or 4 feet off his back bumper. I was not all that disapointed, Although he was an auto.

I do believe once I get a Y-pipe and cat back I should be able to give the 99+ GT's a run for their money. The auto's shouldn't be a problem. Untill then I will stay away from the newer Mustang GT's.
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If you can drive well, you will give the autos a run for their money or even win by a little. 5speeds will still walk you though. Nothing you can do, they are just faster til you get more mods.
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If you can drive well, you will give the autos a run for their money or even win by a little. 5speeds will still walk you though. Nothing you can do, they are just faster til you get more mods.
Are you serious about this Neal? The 2000+ Auto V8 stangs run low 6's if I am correct 0-60, with a sh!tload of punch off the line. The manuals do it in about 5.6 seconds.

People here underestimate stangs too much. They take to mods ALOT better then us...Mike, just be humble and expect to get raped. If you find a 5spd your toast, and if he's modded it'll be like your standing still.
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the newer GTs with 260hp arent slouchs... i dont mess with them the older ones i have a field day with unless they are mod'd

I'm not stock either
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Are you serious about this Neal? The 2000+ Auto V8 stangs run low 6's if I am correct 0-60, with a sh!tload of punch off the line. The manuals do it in about 5.6 seconds.

People here underestimate stangs too much. They take to mods ALOT better then us...Mike, just be humble and expect to get raped. If you find a 5spd your toast, and if he's modded it'll be like your standing still.
wow someone knows what there talking about.
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wow someone knows what there talking about.
i'd love to run against a newer mustang GT. i really think i can give them a run for the money. sure i'm the underdog, but i know i won't get handed an exhaust unless they have some serious mods. i've run against 13 second cars. that's less than 2 car gap if they trap out at over 100mph.
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unless you become boosted of some sort, with juice or s/c you will not take a newer GT (auto or 5speed) granite mustangs suck, they are built bad and lack a lot. but face the facts 4.6 260hp vs 3.0 190. im not saying it cant be done, but those things are underestimated, even the auto's run very low 14's. some maxes can accomplish that but not to many while staying N/A. although the older model GT's are just toys for us to play with
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Originally posted by Craig Mack


Are you serious about this Neal? The 2000+ Auto V8 stangs run low 6's if I am correct 0-60, with a sh!tload of punch off the line. The manuals do it in about 5.6 seconds.

People here underestimate stangs too much. They take to mods ALOT better then us...Mike, just be humble and expect to get raped. If you find a 5spd your toast, and if he's modded it'll be like your standing still.
Oh, for sure, a 99+ GT with mods will always spank me as long as I am N/A. Intake and Exhaust on a Stang is a whole different thing than on a Nissan/Infiniti. I would like to think when I finish my exhust I could give a STOCK 99+ a run for their money, mainly the autos. Unitll then I won't mess with a GT that was made in the last 3 years.
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i'd love to run against a newer mustang GT. i really think i can give them a run for the money. sure i'm the underdog, but i know i won't get handed an exhaust unless they have some serious mods. i've run against 13 second cars. that's less than 2 car gap if they trap out at over 100mph.
14.3, you would have to catch the stang driver on a bad day to win. You could make it interesting. Those brand new ones can really move.
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Oh, for sure, a 99+ GT with mods will always spank me as long as I am N/A. Intake and Exhaust on a Stang is a whole different thing than on a Nissan/Infiniti. I would like to think when I finish my exhust I could give a STOCK 99+ a run for their money, mainly the autos. Unitll then I won't mess with a GT that was made in the last 3 years.
The sound of a mustang V8 is to die for. If the Maxima was paired with a version of the stangs v8+RWD we'd be SMOKIN' fast, as we are like 200-500lbs. lighter..


Does anyone know the stats for a '95 5.0L Stang? (the one with the newer body style, not the old foxbody) My "friend" has a '95 5.0 automatic COMPLETELY stock, and he says it runs the 1/4th in high 14's - 15.1 I just wanna know if this is true...of course he and his other friend say he can smoke my "weedwacking import".
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once again, mustangs suck
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Originally posted by Craig Mack


Are you serious about this Neal? The 2000+ Auto V8 stangs run low 6's if I am correct 0-60, with a sh!tload of punch off the line. The manuals do it in about 5.6 seconds.

People here underestimate stangs too much. They take to mods ALOT better then us...Mike, just be humble and expect to get raped. If you find a 5spd your toast, and if he's modded it'll be like your standing still.
I agree to a point. The 99+ GTs are significantly quicker, no doubt. The autos are only .3-.4 second slower than the 5 speeds now. On average, the new GTs run low 14s in 5 speed form up to mid to high 14s for the autos. However the new Stangs, like any car, is suceptable to heat and humidity just like any other car. Last Wednesday night, I went to the track and I got to race 2 later model GT 5 speeds (01 and a 02). One was stock and the other had at least mufflers. Conditions were less than ideal (80, 80% humidity, slightly wet track from the earlier rain). With very similiar 60 foots (high 2.3s due to a wet launch pad) and reaction times to the Stangs, the results were quite interesting:

Me 15.1@94mph against the 02 15.1@94mph
Me 15.1@94mph against the 01 15.0@95mph

Yes, these times were pathetic for both the Stangs and myself. I didn't feel to bad after watching two LS1 F-bodies pulling off consistent mid to high 14s at 97-98mph.

Do Stangs suck? No way. I've got a ton of respect for any 87+ Stang. It is entirely too easy to make a Stang extremely fast, especially the 87-93 5.0s. I would love to have a 90-93 LX 5.0 notchback as a project car.


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I agree to a point. The 99+ GTs are significantly quicker, no doubt. The autos are only .3-.4 second slower than the 5 speeds now. On average, the new GTs run low 14s in 5 speed form up to mid to high 14s for the autos. However the new Stangs, like any car, is suceptable to heat and humidity just like any other car. Last Wednesday night, I went to the track and I got to race 2 later model GT 5 speeds (01 and a 02). One was stock and the other had at least mufflers. Conditions were less than ideal (80, 80% humidity, slightly wet track from the earlier rain). With very similiar 60 foots (high 2.3s due to a wet launch pad) and reaction times to the Stangs, the results were quite interesting:

Me 15.1@94mph against the 02 15.1@94mph
Me 15.1@94mph against the 01 15.0@95mph

Yes, these times were pathetic for both the Stangs and myself. I didn't feel to bad after watching two LS1 F-bodies pulling off consistent mid to high 14s at 97-98mph.

Do Stangs suck? No way. I've got a ton of respect for any 87+ Stang. It is entirely too easy to make a Stang extremely fast, especially the 87-93 5.0s. I would love to have a 90-93 LX 5.0 notchback as a project car.


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Of course I was serious... auto GT 99+ stangs are good for mid-high 14s and thats WITH the advantage of RWD launches. Most 5speed 4th gens are good for mid-high 14s as well, and thats WITHOUT the launch advantage. So negating the RWD launch advantage of the RWD stang... a modded 5spd 4th gen will hang very well.
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Originally posted by Nealoc187
Of course I was serious... auto GT 99+ stangs are good for mid-high 14s and thats WITH the advantage of RWD launches. Most 5speed 4th gens are good for mid-high 14s as well, and thats WITHOUT the launch advantage. So negating the RWD launch advantage of the RWD stang... a modded 5spd 4th gen will hang very well.
I agree for the most part...I think if you caught one from a roll you'd walk away from it. Who do you think would take who off the line? He has RWD, but you have a 5spd. ?
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Originally posted by Nealoc187
Of course I was serious... auto GT 99+ stangs are good for mid-high 14s and thats WITH the advantage of RWD launches. Most 5speed 4th gens are good for mid-high 14s as well, and thats WITHOUT the launch advantage. So negating the RWD launch advantage of the RWD stang... a modded 5spd 4th gen will hang very well.
Excellent point. On Wednesday, I had the perfect race with the 02 5 speed. He cut a .490 light and I got a .510 light and we both got 2.3X 60 foots. We were neck and neck from start to finish. He "might" have pulled on me 1-2 feet, but the ETs and MPHs were nearly identical. His 15.18@94.30 to my 15.19@93.90. After the race we chatted. He said he would have never figured my black sedan was going to go toe to toe with him. He even said that the "Japs" know how to make a V6 run. Isn't that the truth.


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Excellent point. On Wednesday, I had the perfect race with the 02 5 speed. He cut a .490 light and I got a .510 light and we both got 2.3X 60 foots. We were neck and neck from start to finish. He "might" have pulled on me 1-2 feet, but the ETs and MPHs were nearly identical. His 15.18@94.30 to my 15.19@93.90. After the race we chatted. He said he would have never figured my black sedan was going to go toe to toe with him. He even said that the "Japs" know how to make a V6 run. Isn't that the truth.


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Excellent point. On Wednesday, I had the perfect race with the 02 5 speed. He cut a .490 light and I got a .510 light and we both got 2.3X 60 foots. We were neck and neck from start to finish. He "might" have pulled on me 1-2 feet, but the ETs and MPHs were nearly identical. His 15.18@94.30 to my 15.19@93.90. After the race we chatted. He said he would have never figured my black sedan was going to go toe to toe with him. He even said that the "Japs" know how to make a V6 run. Isn't that the truth.


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What I find impressive is that you stayed with him from a dead stop. It seems like while your tims are about a half second too slow, his are about a full second slower then what GT 5spds usually run. Did you ask him about his driving skills? Did he launch? He must of done something wrong to of run a 15.1....anyways good race Dave.
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What I find impressive is that you stayed with him from a dead stop. It seems like while your tims are about a half second too slow, his are about a full second slower then what GT 5spds usually run. Did you ask him about his driving skills? Did he launch? He must of done something wrong to of run a 15.1....anyways good race Dave.
Well 80 degree temps, 80+% humidity, and a slightly moist track from the earlier rain probably didn't help things. I knew I'd be slow, but I wanted to get some runs done in hot and damp air so I can guage the gains of my VI when I get it installed in 2 weeks. I ran 2 14.9s, 2 15.1s, and one 15.2. All runs were in the 93-94mph with slow 2.3-2.4 60 foots. The 01 and 02 GTs were running consistent 14.9-15.1s@94mph, a Corrado VR6 was hitting 15.8s, two stock/mostly stock LS1 TAs running 14.5-14.7@97-98mph, and my buddies 00 Ram Air 6 speed with headers, cam, catback, and drag radials was hitting 12.9-13.1s (usually runs 12.5s). One friend did run a best though in his 90 Laser turbo with a 16G, FMIC, 104 octane, catback, and 22" tall slicks. He hit a 12.9 with a 1.9 60'.


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Re: 2002 Mustang GT, Now I need the "Y"

hey yo man, anyone with an auto GT stang is a pu$$y. he will still beat any stock 4th GEN but still.....i raced a 94 5.0 conv. and i beat him off the line, he was a 5-speed so he probably would have passed me after 60 mph.....but still i had his ACE!
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Re: Re: 2002 Mustang GT, Now I need the "Y"

Originally posted by I_H8_GXE'S!!
hey yo man, anyone with an auto GT stang is a pu$$y. he will still beat any stock 4th GEN but still.....i raced a 94 5.0 conv. and i beat him off the line, he was a 5-speed so he probably would have passed me after 60 mph.....but still i had his ACE!
stock manual tranny 5.0s are almost outmatched against lightly modded 4th gens. they were running high 14s and low 15s on most days i am at the track.
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