buick grandnational??
#1
buick grandnational??
there is this kid at my girls work that drives an old buick grandnational turbo, and the only mods he has on it are mufflers. i hear this kid is pretty race happy and i dislike him, so i would assume that one these days i will run into him. but i have no idea how these things perform. can anyone give me some specs and times, or just personal experience. not sure on year but an older grandnational turbo w/ mufflers. i have a 96' auto with CAI
#3
Re: buick grandnational??
Originally posted by DTR Maxima
there is this kid at my girls work that drives an old buick grandnational turbo, and the only mods he has on it are mufflers. i hear this kid is pretty race happy and i dislike him, so i would assume that one these days i will run into him. but i have no idea how these things perform. can anyone give me some specs and times, or just personal experience. not sure on year but an older grandnational turbo w/ mufflers. i have a 96' auto with CAI
there is this kid at my girls work that drives an old buick grandnational turbo, and the only mods he has on it are mufflers. i hear this kid is pretty race happy and i dislike him, so i would assume that one these days i will run into him. but i have no idea how these things perform. can anyone give me some specs and times, or just personal experience. not sure on year but an older grandnational turbo w/ mufflers. i have a 96' auto with CAI
#4
Re: Re: buick grandnational??
yea man, we were discussing racing against newer mustangs earlier, GNXs are a whole 'nother ball game. be very very afraid. low 13's are common (stock). most of them in my area are easily into the 12's with minimal turbo mods. sometime's i'd pick them over supras; they're that drag race compatible. these cars were the sleepers in their day. they are turbo powered, RWD V6s. today's GTP is nothing like GM had in mind back in the 80's.
#5
Re: buick grandnational??
Originally posted by DTR Maxima
there is this kid at my girls work that drives an old buick grandnational turbo, and the only mods he has on it are mufflers. i hear this kid is pretty race happy and i dislike him, so i would assume that one these days i will run into him. but i have no idea how these things perform. can anyone give me some specs and times, or just personal experience. not sure on year but an older grandnational turbo w/ mufflers. i have a 96' auto with CAI
there is this kid at my girls work that drives an old buick grandnational turbo, and the only mods he has on it are mufflers. i hear this kid is pretty race happy and i dislike him, so i would assume that one these days i will run into him. but i have no idea how these things perform. can anyone give me some specs and times, or just personal experience. not sure on year but an older grandnational turbo w/ mufflers. i have a 96' auto with CAI
#6
Re: Re: buick grandnational??
Originally posted by cuse97
My best friend has a Grand National. Those cars can be extremely fast with very little mods. For instance, his car is completely stock except for an air filter, three inch exhaust and three inch downpipe from the turbo. His best time is a 12.70 and he still had a bad sixty foot in the quarter. You definetly have to watch out for those cars unless you have plenty of nitrous and a supercharger. Even with all your bolt on mods(which would be probably high 14's), a stock GN would run 13.90's to 14.50 in the quarter. If they turn up the boost, forget about it.
My best friend has a Grand National. Those cars can be extremely fast with very little mods. For instance, his car is completely stock except for an air filter, three inch exhaust and three inch downpipe from the turbo. His best time is a 12.70 and he still had a bad sixty foot in the quarter. You definetly have to watch out for those cars unless you have plenty of nitrous and a supercharger. Even with all your bolt on mods(which would be probably high 14's), a stock GN would run 13.90's to 14.50 in the quarter. If they turn up the boost, forget about it.
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My brother had a Buick GN. There's lots of bolt on's which make that car scream. He had upgraded injectors, bigger Turbo, suspension mods, tranny mods.. He was in the [b]low[b] 12 second area at the track with that car. Nothing could touch it on the road. Untill you get in the twisties with it.
#11
It will own you.
I had the distinct pleasure of working on a GN...it was fun. I was supposed to drive it but then, lucky me, he decided to swap motors...again......
I had the distinct pleasure of working on a GN...it was fun. I was supposed to drive it but then, lucky me, he decided to swap motors...again......
#12
DTR Max - man, you must race like, three times a night for money or something. Just in one search on the 4th-gen forum, I've seen you ask about preludes, a couple integras, accords, dakota R/Ts, corvettes, Grand Prix GTPs, Grand Ams, RSXs, Probes, Monte Carlos, Bonnevilles, Camaros, and now Grand Nationals...and those are all from 6/21/02 and newer!!
In the name of anything left on this world that's at least somewhat sacred, if yer gonna street race, either go out there and 'just do it'® , or do some searching on the internet to find out the info you need about the other cars.
I mean, no real flamage meant, but what have you got to lose out there on the streets? Just take it for what it is. Have fun, and be safe.
In the name of anything left on this world that's at least somewhat sacred, if yer gonna street race, either go out there and 'just do it'® , or do some searching on the internet to find out the info you need about the other cars.
I mean, no real flamage meant, but what have you got to lose out there on the streets? Just take it for what it is. Have fun, and be safe.
#13
the grand national is plain nasty. i have seen bone stock ones run 14.2's and lightly modified ones run low 13's. these cars are nothing to mess with. personally if i could find one at a decent price i would be all over buying one. of course i would keep the max though!!
#14
good luck.....rode in one about five years ago that had turbo mods and exhaust. once you ride in one you know better than to attemp to race one unless you have a $hit load of mods...including boost.
#15
Re: buick grandnational??
Originally posted by DTR Maxima
there is this kid at my girls work that drives an old buick grandnational turbo, and the only mods he has on it are mufflers. i hear this kid is pretty race happy and i dislike him, so i would assume that one these days i will run into him. but i have no idea how these things perform. can anyone give me some specs and times, or just personal experience. not sure on year but an older grandnational turbo w/ mufflers. i have a 96' auto with CAI
there is this kid at my girls work that drives an old buick grandnational turbo, and the only mods he has on it are mufflers. i hear this kid is pretty race happy and i dislike him, so i would assume that one these days i will run into him. but i have no idea how these things perform. can anyone give me some specs and times, or just personal experience. not sure on year but an older grandnational turbo w/ mufflers. i have a 96' auto with CAI
#16
These cars touted to be the fastest "AMERICAN" production car ever made up until that time.
can you say vet killer?
can you say vet killer?
#18
Originally posted by webboy
These cars touted to be the fastest "AMERICAN" production car ever made up until that time.
can you say vet killer?
These cars touted to be the fastest "AMERICAN" production car ever made up until that time.
can you say vet killer?
#19
Originally posted by blizz20oma
DTR Max - man, you must race like, three times a night for money or something. Just in one search on the 4th-gen forum, I've seen you ask about preludes, a couple integras, accords, dakota R/Ts, corvettes, Grand Prix GTPs, Grand Ams, RSXs, Probes, Monte Carlos, Bonnevilles, Camaros, and now Grand Nationals...and those are all from 6/21/02 and newer!!
In the name of anything left on this world that's at least somewhat sacred, if yer gonna street race, either go out there and 'just do it'® , or do some searching on the internet to find out the info you need about the other cars.
I mean, no real flamage meant, but what have you got to lose out there on the streets? Just take it for what it is. Have fun, and be safe.
DTR Max - man, you must race like, three times a night for money or something. Just in one search on the 4th-gen forum, I've seen you ask about preludes, a couple integras, accords, dakota R/Ts, corvettes, Grand Prix GTPs, Grand Ams, RSXs, Probes, Monte Carlos, Bonnevilles, Camaros, and now Grand Nationals...and those are all from 6/21/02 and newer!!
In the name of anything left on this world that's at least somewhat sacred, if yer gonna street race, either go out there and 'just do it'® , or do some searching on the internet to find out the info you need about the other cars.
I mean, no real flamage meant, but what have you got to lose out there on the streets? Just take it for what it is. Have fun, and be safe.
#20
GN's are always Black, and t-types are always white....most knew the GN's were fast, but few knew of the t-type.
My brother was an engineer at the GM proving grounds near mesa arizona, and an engineer buddy of his had GN that was streetable and was running high 8's! They were running liquid nitrogen through the intercooler, filling it before and draining it immediately after each run. Engineering types that get involved in cars....sheesh!!
My brother was an engineer at the GM proving grounds near mesa arizona, and an engineer buddy of his had GN that was streetable and was running high 8's! They were running liquid nitrogen through the intercooler, filling it before and draining it immediately after each run. Engineering types that get involved in cars....sheesh!!
#22
I had the pleasure of owning an 87 white turbo-t and it would eatup anything in my area including my corvette
i had it easily into the 12's and the wife was afraid to drive it so we sold it.
the guy that bought it has it in the low 11's and is shooting for 10's
don't go near those cars.(they fly even stock)
i had it easily into the 12's and the wife was afraid to drive it so we sold it.
the guy that bought it has it in the low 11's and is shooting for 10's
don't go near those cars.(they fly even stock)
#23
Originally posted by fst96se
GN's are always Black, and t-types are always white....most knew the GN's were fast, but few knew of the t-type.
My brother was an engineer at the GM proving grounds near mesa arizona, and an engineer buddy of his had GN that was streetable and was running high 8's! They were running liquid nitrogen through the intercooler, filling it before and draining it immediately after each run. Engineering types that get involved in cars....sheesh!!
GN's are always Black, and t-types are always white....most knew the GN's were fast, but few knew of the t-type.
My brother was an engineer at the GM proving grounds near mesa arizona, and an engineer buddy of his had GN that was streetable and was running high 8's! They were running liquid nitrogen through the intercooler, filling it before and draining it immediately after each run. Engineering types that get involved in cars....sheesh!!
#24
Originally posted by webboy
they came in grey too
they came in grey too
#25
Don't be scared
Originally posted by blizz20oma
DTR Max - man, you must race like, three times a night for money or something. Just in one search on the 4th-gen forum, I've seen you ask about preludes, a couple integras, accords, dakota R/Ts, corvettes, Grand Prix GTPs, Grand Ams, RSXs, Probes, Monte Carlos, Bonnevilles, Camaros, and now Grand Nationals...and those are all from 6/21/02 and newer!!
In the name of anything left on this world that's at least somewhat sacred, if yer gonna street race, either go out there and 'just do it'® , or do some searching on the internet to find out the info you need about the other cars.
I mean, no real flamage meant, but what have you got to lose out there on the streets? Just take it for what it is. Have fun, and be safe.
DTR Max - man, you must race like, three times a night for money or something. Just in one search on the 4th-gen forum, I've seen you ask about preludes, a couple integras, accords, dakota R/Ts, corvettes, Grand Prix GTPs, Grand Ams, RSXs, Probes, Monte Carlos, Bonnevilles, Camaros, and now Grand Nationals...and those are all from 6/21/02 and newer!!
In the name of anything left on this world that's at least somewhat sacred, if yer gonna street race, either go out there and 'just do it'® , or do some searching on the internet to find out the info you need about the other cars.
I mean, no real flamage meant, but what have you got to lose out there on the streets? Just take it for what it is. Have fun, and be safe.
#26
Go and try...but you will get raped hard...those car's were heavily underrated at 245hp, and something like 350lb ft of torque or so...GM had to undderrate them because they didnt want them to look more powerful than their so called high end sports car, the corvette....but they will destroy most corvettes, especially around when they were introduced. If it is a GNX, do not even try...mclaren technology in those things.
#27
Originally posted by kingrukus
If it is a GNX, do not even try...mclaren technology in those things.
If it is a GNX, do not even try...mclaren technology in those things.
Dave
#29
Originally posted by Flanman007
0-60 in about 5 secconds, very fast
0-60 in about 5 secconds, very fast
My buddy has one and it's extremely fast.
#30
I say race him
I say race him and find out. Yes we all know how fast they are. We know they can whoop some ***, but you should race him anyway. First reason to race him: You will see how fast one of things is in real life. I love comparing faster cars and seeing what theyll actually beat me by. second reason: THis kid is probably young and it is a possibility the turbo isnt producing full boost. If thats the case it could be running 15's maybe slower. Depending on the mechanical condition. If you win its a big hell yes I took a grand nat. Oh by the way Ive seen several running 9's at the track and they werent trailered there. Be afraid be very afraid muhuhahahhahahaha.
#31
thanks guys, i think i know more about the GN then this kid does, haha, anyway, are grandnational turbos hard to get, cuz of money, cuz this kid doesnt have a lot. and his car is grey, so is it possible he put turbo emblems on it??? his car says nothing about regal or GN it just says turbo on the back and on his hood there is a bit of a slotted raise and it says turbo along the side, and then his cubic inch engine number. is it possible its not a turbo???
thanks for the help gentlemen
thanks for the help gentlemen
#32
Only one way to find out. If its not turbo you'll kill him. If it is turbo you're going be left. Any one of those with a turbo will literally leave you in blue smoke when the auto shifts to 2nd. It was the world's fastest productsion car during the mid-late eighties. Very unreliable but I'm sure that the ones still running around have had any potential problems remedied and are ready to rock.
#33
Originally posted by fst96se
GN's are always Black, and t-types are always white....most knew the GN's were fast, but few knew of the t-type.
GN's are always Black, and t-types are always white....most knew the GN's were fast, but few knew of the t-type.
#34
Re: buick grandnational??
Originally posted by DTR Maxima
there is this kid at my girls work that drives an old buick grandnational turbo, and the only mods he has on it are mufflers. i hear this kid is pretty race happy and i dislike him, so i would assume that one these days i will run into him. but i have no idea how these things perform. can anyone give me some specs and times, or just personal experience. not sure on year but an older grandnational turbo w/ mufflers. i have a 96' auto with CAI
there is this kid at my girls work that drives an old buick grandnational turbo, and the only mods he has on it are mufflers. i hear this kid is pretty race happy and i dislike him, so i would assume that one these days i will run into him. but i have no idea how these things perform. can anyone give me some specs and times, or just personal experience. not sure on year but an older grandnational turbo w/ mufflers. i have a 96' auto with CAI
#36
Originally posted by DTR Maxima
thanks guys, i think i know more about the GN then this kid does, haha, anyway, are grandnational turbos hard to get, cuz of money, cuz this kid doesnt have a lot. and his car is grey, so is it possible he put turbo emblems on it??? his car says nothing about regal or GN it just says turbo on the back and on his hood there is a bit of a slotted raise and it says turbo along the side, and then his cubic inch engine number. is it possible its not a turbo???
thanks for the help gentlemen
thanks guys, i think i know more about the GN then this kid does, haha, anyway, are grandnational turbos hard to get, cuz of money, cuz this kid doesnt have a lot. and his car is grey, so is it possible he put turbo emblems on it??? his car says nothing about regal or GN it just says turbo on the back and on his hood there is a bit of a slotted raise and it says turbo along the side, and then his cubic inch engine number. is it possible its not a turbo???
thanks for the help gentlemen
#37
Re: buick grandnational??
Originally posted by DTR Maxima
there is this kid at my girls work that drives an old buick grandnational turbo, and the only mods he has on it are mufflers. i hear this kid is pretty race happy and i dislike him, so i would assume that one these days i will run into him. but i have no idea how these things perform. can anyone give me some specs and times, or just personal experience. not sure on year but an older grandnational turbo w/ mufflers. i have a 96' auto with CAI
there is this kid at my girls work that drives an old buick grandnational turbo, and the only mods he has on it are mufflers. i hear this kid is pretty race happy and i dislike him, so i would assume that one these days i will run into him. but i have no idea how these things perform. can anyone give me some specs and times, or just personal experience. not sure on year but an older grandnational turbo w/ mufflers. i have a 96' auto with CAI
I own an 87 Grand National and have also owned an 86 T-Type. They are both a lot faster than my 02 Max auto. The 84 and 85 Grand Nationals were slower than the 86 and 87. An 02 6 speed Max and a tired 84-85 Grand National might be a good race. The turbo regals were available in all colors. The Grand National was only in Black.
#38
Re: Re: buick grandnational??
Originally posted by JS02
I own an 87 Grand National and have also owned an 86 T-Type. They are both a lot faster than my 02 Max auto. The 84 and 85 Grand Nationals were slower than the 86 and 87. An 02 6 speed Max and a tired 84-85 Grand National might be a good race. The turbo regals were available in all colors. The Grand National was only in Black.
I own an 87 Grand National and have also owned an 86 T-Type. They are both a lot faster than my 02 Max auto. The 84 and 85 Grand Nationals were slower than the 86 and 87. An 02 6 speed Max and a tired 84-85 Grand National might be a good race. The turbo regals were available in all colors. The Grand National was only in Black.
What a garage! Post it up here in this thread.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=136272
#39
i say race him, do some modding to your car, maybe take out the passenger front seat, the rear replacement tire, and all the junk in the trunk if any. weight reduction would help. Also the GN's have a 3.8L or a 4.1L (3.8 ovebored stock) engine if it says anything else it might be a knock off. the turbo also make a whining sound when it spools if you hear that you'll know. I have a hybrid of that engine in my olds ('89 231cu in. 3.8L V6) and it's a powerful SOB try to get him off the line. I'm thinking that it's not a well maintained car, i know i've put a lot of work into my olds and it is just great. so thinking on that note it would probably put him and you on equal grounds - to let the skills deside the winner. i think it's good to do some research on the guy you'll be racing puts you in an "insider" perspective. D@mn i think my corporate job is finally getting to me.
Be Serious, Give It Everything You've Got, Have Fun, and Smoke Him.
Be Serious, Give It Everything You've Got, Have Fun, and Smoke Him.
#40
The GN was THE fastest production car in 1987.
245 hp stock and the GNX had 276, but they have a top speed of 125 mph, so theoretically you could eventually beat him right What's the top speed for your max? I know mine isn't governed and it will go straight up to around 140 mph.
245 hp stock and the GNX had 276, but they have a top speed of 125 mph, so theoretically you could eventually beat him right What's the top speed for your max? I know mine isn't governed and it will go straight up to around 140 mph.