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Old 07-16-2002, 09:11 PM
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could i beat a new se-r?

one of my freinds just got a new se-r 5-speed. i have a 95 maxima Se 5-speed. who would win? would i stand a chance? we are both stock.
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Re: could i beat a new se-r?

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one of my freinds just got a new se-r 5-speed. i have a 95 maxima Se 5-speed. who would win? would i stand a chance? we are both stock.

Is it a spec-v?
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Re: could i beat a new se-r?

Originally posted by bizzy
one of my freinds just got a new se-r 5-speed. i have a 95 maxima Se 5-speed. who would win? would i stand a chance? we are both stock.
Spec-V driven right would beat you
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Old 07-16-2002, 09:16 PM
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yeah its a spec-v
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Re: Re: could i beat a new se-r?

Originally posted by JustTry



Is it a spec-v?
If you can drive good, you can take him, but dont mess up becuase he will be right on your ***..



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the se-r race a 91 supra turbo with 230 hp. and supposly pulled. not sure if i believe it.
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Old 07-16-2002, 09:24 PM
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Re: Re: could i beat a new se-r?

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Spec-V driven right would beat you
a 95 5sp driven right vs. a specV driven right..the max should win

i thought spec-V were 6spds?
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Old 07-16-2002, 09:26 PM
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Re: Re: Re: could i beat a new se-r?

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a 95 5sp driven right vs. a specV driven right..the max should win

i thought spec-V were 6spds?
they are... the 5spd max shoudl aways beat a spec v 6 speed..but it really depends on driver
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opps its a 6-speed. my bad.
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Re: Re: could i beat a new se-r?

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Spec-V driven right would beat you
Haha... try again. The quickest stock Spec Vs run what an average 5spd 4th gen runs.

Unless you are a really poor driver, or your car has a problem, you will beat him easily.
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Old 07-17-2002, 12:26 AM
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Stock I have seen the Spec-v run 15.4 in the 1/4(according to road & track) my best 1/4 run (stock '97 5spd) was 15.3 in hot and humid weather, I have read our cars stock run as good as 14.8 (I'm sure in good cool weather) in the 1/4. A 5spd should have no prob with a 6spd v-spec, there is no match with the low end torque...as far as an auto max, that might be close.
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Old 07-17-2002, 01:26 AM
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Don't forget the mileage you have on your car . If both cars were new, the maxima would have a bigger chance of beating the spec V. I've heard of ppl running 15 flat with their stock 5spd max if weather conditions and driver are good. You have a 95 which is the lightest year, so I think you have the advantage. If you do beat him, it will be by very little, but give it a go and let us know
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Originally posted by JsL
Don't forget the mileage you have on your car . If both cars were new, the maxima would have a bigger chance of beating the spec V. I've heard of ppl running 15 flat with their stock 5spd max if weather conditions and driver are good. You have a 95 which is the lightest year, so I think you have the advantage. If you do beat him, it will be by very little, but give it a go and let us know
Cars generally get faster with age. If you read Car and Driver, you can see that almost all of their long-term test cars are faster at the end of the 40000 mile test.

Stock 4th gen Maxs have run well into the 14s. I ran a 15.2 in my 95 GXE Auto with just a homemade intake.

Dont underestimate the 4th gen in the hands of a good driver.
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Stock for stock I think the max would walk, but it depends on how far you race. Most people shut down before a full quarter-mile on the streets. I'm sure the spec-V with it's nimble size and v-lsd probably launches out in front of the max, but the max eats up the gap later on. But if we're talking mid 15s versus low-to-mid 15s, that gap might not get fully recovered by the max if you only race to say, 60-75mph.

*shrug*...I always say, why post about it in wonderment? Go out there and put it into action, and do it in a way that you can have fun w/o endangering others. And don't let the Spec-v take you into the twisties

Also, don't let you friend race/beat up his ride until *after* the break-in period
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my friend with a 5 speed 99 max 82000 miles with intakes, a apexi muffler and a stillen y-pipe , raced a brand new 6 speed spec V with aem intakes and exhaust and he pulled on him by 4 car lengths.....belive me if u drive right u will take that **** its slow. remember its 175 hp at the fly wheel its only like 145 at the wheels,
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Originally posted by JsL
Don't forget the mileage you have on your car . If both cars were new, the maxima would have a bigger chance of beating the spec V. I've heard of ppl running 15 flat with their stock 5spd max if weather conditions and driver are good. You have a 95 which is the lightest year, so I think you have the advantage. If you do beat him, it will be by very little, but give it a go and let us know
cars usually dont even peak until around 40k miles. actually your not even supposed to race or run your car hard for a while if your buying it pretty new. but all things in consideration i think you could beat him. he may pull of the line but in 2nd i think you will start realing him in. so have fun and race safe
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I ran 14.8 stock in 85 degree weather with high humidity, at 110K miles. VeeTec ran 14.7 in the Alabama heat. I've raced 2 spec Vs and was severely disappointed with how easily I burned them, giving them a severe jump both times. 175hp and 175tq, 6spd LSD and stock 17's are some good stats, but they seem to lack a little bit where the tire hits the road.
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Old 07-17-2002, 11:52 AM
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i think fastest stock 1/4 for the specV so far is 15.1 over at freshalloy.com......pretty quick
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Old 07-17-2002, 02:04 PM
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A FI Spec-V with other appropriate mods/bolt-ons with some smaller drag-friendly tires would be interesting to see, timeslip-wise. You could probably do everything necessary above and still not spend much in the end. $19k new is a good price for a little project fwd 4-banger.
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Old 07-17-2002, 04:14 PM
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Straight from the July 2002 R&T.

SE-R Spec V 6-spd
0-60............ 7.3 sec
1/4 mile........ 15.6 @ 90.3mph
Test weight..... 2940 lbs
HP.............. 175 bhp @ 6k rpm
TQ.............. 180 lb-ft @ 4k rpm

Stock-for-stock and driven well you could take it...
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Old 07-17-2002, 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by exhip95
Straight from the July 2002 R&T.

SE-R Spec V 6-spd
0-60............ 7.3 sec
1/4 mile........ 15.6 @ 90.3mph
Test weight..... 2940 lbs
HP.............. 175 bhp @ 6k rpm
TQ.............. 180 lb-ft @ 4k rpm

Stock-for-stock and driven well you could take it...
a guy at my work just bought one... he claimed a 15.0 with only 900 miles on it. i didn't see the slip, but another guy up here said he witnessed it... ??? who knows?
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Old 07-18-2002, 02:21 PM
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thanks for all the feed back. now all thats left to do is race him.
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Old 07-19-2002, 10:24 AM
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Yep, go race him. I test drove one the other day, and wasn't impressed with its rolling acceleration. My maxima had a lot more pull than the SpecV. It's a nice little car though....
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Old 07-19-2002, 08:01 PM
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what about a 95 325is 5-speed? do you all think this would beat me?
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Old 07-20-2002, 03:33 PM
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B15 SE-R Spec V's usually run 15.0~15.6 stock. A few may tap the 14.8~14.9 range, but those are just like the gen4's who hit 14.8's stock... that is, FREAKS!

I wouldn't worry about outrunning a stock Spec V in a straight line with a stock gen4 5-speed. The turns are another story, though... and bolt-ons are another story, too; the Spec V and the Maxima both benefit greatly from minor bolt ons...
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Old 08-03-2002, 04:24 PM
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In a longer race you should win. In a short race it will depend on the driver and particular car. Even with the HLSD the spec v is very hard to launch, often with inexperienced drivers spinning through all of first and most (if not all) of second gear. I know - I run a 2.4 sec 60ft due to wheel spin and poor launch technique, but finish the 1/4 in 15.5 @ 91.44 mph in my spec (stock). With that trapspeed and a better launch the ET should be at least low 15s.

Some spec people run 15 flat with a couple claiming 14.9, while others run 15.8+. I don't think it is all driver difference. IMO specs are very inconsistent between cars. I test drove some that felt real slow while others felt much faster. One *missed* while idling (at the dealer).

However, your top end is much better than the spec. In a long race or a race on the highway you should crush it. In a short race if the spec driver can not launch well you will beat it. My first time at the track I ran a 16.9 because I spun through 1st, 2nd, and came off the line in 3rd.

If you had a stock automatic though you would *probably* lose. At least in a 1/4 mile race. I have timeslips racing a 4thgen automatic with ECU and y-pipe. I beat him 2 out of 3 times, and even in the 1 loss I had a faster ET.

Let us know how it turns out :-)

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