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Old 07-18-2002, 11:36 AM
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Raced a 3000GT-VR4...

Last night I took a ride on the highway by my house. A 3000gt came rollin up and I didnt get to see what kind of model it before we raced up top but it had all these gauges and stuff and exhaust...I raced him from 60 to about 95 and we were dead even...i figured it was a sl...I get up alittle bit and they roll next to me and ask me if Im supercharged...I said nah only an intake and part of my exhaust...I let him roll by me to see what model it was and it was a VR4...we were trying to get a light, I knew I was going to lose really bad but I really didnt care...We got to a light finally and I was talkin to him...I asked him if he was turboed and he said two. he said my car sounded really good. by then the ligth turned green and I got a pretty good launch at 3K...I jumped ahead and by about top end 2nd, 50, I hear his turbo's spool up and gone...GOD DAMN<<<<those things are sick...I really dont know what he had done but I felt like I was standing still...I even looked down top see if my car was still reving..sick fast man

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60 to 95 and you were dead even with a VR4? You sure he wasn't just playing around with you? VR4's are fast as heck. He should have left you way behind from the start on the street too. I don't know maybe the guy can't drive?
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Re: Raced a 3000GT-VR4...

Originally posted by matty
Last night I took a ride on the highway by my house. A 3000gt came rollin up and I didnt get to see what kind of model it before we raced up top but it had all these gauges and stuff and exhaust...I raced him from 60 to about 95 and we were dead even...i figured it was a sl...I get up alittle bit and they roll next to me and ask me if Im supercharged...I said nah only an intake and part of my exhaust...I let him roll by me to see what model it was and it was a VR4...we were trying to get a light, I knew I was going to lose really bad but I really didnt care...We got to a light finally and I was talkin to him...I asked him if he was turboed and he said two. he said my car sounded really good. by then the ligth turned green and I got a pretty good launch at 3K...I jumped ahead and by about top end 2nd, 50, I hear his turbo's spool up and gone...GOD DAMN<<<<those things are sick...I really dont know what he had done but I felt like I was standing still...I even looked down top see if my car was still reving..sick fast man

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Yeah VR-4's are totally deadly....my friend bought a '92 VR-4 last year and all he's done to it is custom exhaust, which gave him about 40 hp. They took out the cats and its basically two straight pipes back to these huge mufflers...its so loud and sooo fast.

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Old 07-18-2002, 11:57 AM
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he must of had his parking break on
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Re: Re: Raced a 3000GT-VR4...

40 horses? From a cat-back system? Odd.....
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Re: Re: Re: Raced a 3000GT-VR4...

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40 horses? From a cat-back system? Odd.....
Yeah that is odd for a catback!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Raced a 3000GT-VR4...

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Yeah that is odd for a catback!
Its not a cat back...they removed some (or all?) of the cats. What's so odd about it?

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Its odd cuz 40 HP is a LOT for just two straight pipes....
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Old 07-18-2002, 01:20 PM
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yup 40 hp is a lot just from removing two cat's.
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Old 07-18-2002, 01:39 PM
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a few of my supra friends said they could get around 40 hp from a single downpipe. i dont know if they meant NA T or TT..
 
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Originally posted by D-sta
yup 40 hp is a lot just from removing two cat's.
He didn't just remove the cats...the stock restrictive exhaust system was removed and replaced with a free-er flowing exhaust. Turbocharged cars like his can get big gains from exhaust.

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ya exactly....and with 2 BIG turbos....its only more restrictive, so when you free it up....HP gains are
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Old 07-18-2002, 02:47 PM
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Boosted cars react much better to mods

VR4s are beasts.. I know a guy with one, what a monster, even though it's heavy as hell
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Old 07-18-2002, 09:02 PM
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Because exhaust gasses will flow out of the turbine easier, something as simple as a downpipe or exhaust system will actually allow more boost pressure, without the use of a boost controller, thats why turbo cars gain so much from simple mods. They are bottlenecked, and when the bottleneck is removed, they make a few lbs more boost and thus the huge power gains.
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Old 07-18-2002, 09:28 PM
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i think he was playing with you on the 60-95. vr-4's are sooooo quick. they run mid to low 13's stock and as far as off the line goes, it doesnt matter how long it took his turbos to spool, he is all wheel drive. so i say he is a bad driver and prolly cant handle the cars power. none the less good job
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Old 07-18-2002, 09:56 PM
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i think he got a turbo-back exhaust
those are supposed to give huge gains for turbocharged cars, cause i think there's a ton of air going in and getting stuck with a lot of backpressure, so a turbo-back exhaust i guess makes it less restrictive and the air can flow more freely.
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Well he could of been playin with ya then again he could have been Automatic.
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Old 07-19-2002, 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by AkumaMax
Well he could of been playin with ya then again he could have been Automatic.
they only came in 5-speed....
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Old 07-19-2002, 11:12 AM
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maybe he asked u if you were super charged because if you weren't you had no business trying to race him..........but then again it's always fun to see what some cars can do
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Old 07-24-2002, 02:16 PM
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he was definatley playing with you. and yes 40-60 hp gains with turbo depending on what system you get. mine i put ATR PIT BULL "mandrel bent pipes" 99% of straight pipes. but who said his friedn put straight pipes back from the turbos... your friend is dreaming they gooked up these cars exhaust systems god. the biggest pipe you could get thru there would be 3.5 and then that is even pushing it. the rear X-fer case gets in the way. they split the exhaust after the muffler on the left side into the right side. its not even true dual exhaust.
but i can vouch for the hp gains i ran 14.0 stock and added K&N intake blow off valve and a $1000 exhaust system and then i was seeing 12.9 "i turned up the boost a little too but thats because you can once you remove the restrictive sheot. but i dunno how much torque your max has but you sholdnt have been able to get a good jump on him especially if he was modded. the turbos kick in at around 2000 rpms if you dont have a boost controller. then these bad boys start out with 320 ft/lbs of torque. hmmmmm and 1st gear lasts until 45 mph. so he had to be spooling before that. 2nd gear last until 90 so i know if he was modded he had to be pushing 400+ hp. im at 430. and all i have is; exhaust, boost c., intake, bov, and an afc. so all in all its doable. but some one said they are heavy.... YEAH BABY with me in it the track said it was 4000 pounds... lol
oh well but good that you didnt start ripping on him. i give you props that you respect em. i hate people that rip on my max and then i show em. or if they rip on "JAP CRAP" as my friend have before, i pull out my VR4 (aka ZO6 killer) and show em a thing or two about japanese engineering....
great post
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i'm not oriental or asian, but maybe you should watch the gook comment
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john if you would look up GOOK in the dictionary please....

IM TRUELY sorry if i offended any of my fellow max owners.
it IS a damn shame that a word that orrigiannally meant "screwed up"
can be taken as a racial slur... and to that of an "ORIENTAL or an ASIAN" when the actual slur was meant to be (long ago) twords pacific islanders....

ITS A DAMN SHAME.
we cant speak with out being taken to court by some schmuck (notice i didnt use any slander) looking for a quick dollar.
and others not taking responcibility for their actions.
maybe the N word didnt originally mean what is thought to...
like IGNORANT PERSON....

i give up this world is doomed.
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Will all of you are giving the 3000 gt props. I recall one getting smoked by a Max in a recent video.
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OK I RACED A ZO6 WITH MY MAX AND I WON.... DOES THAT MEAN I SMOKED HIM. OR DOES THAT JUST MEAN HE WASNT TRYING, CUZ WE ALL KNOW HE SHOULD HAVE HANDED ME MY *** ON A PLATE.
BUT THATS ALL RELATIVE, CUZ THERE ARE TOO MANY VARIABLES TO MENTION, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT KINDA STUFF.

OBTW THAT VID ISNT A VR4 ITS A SLOW.....
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Originally posted by NE1 4 69
OK I RACED A ZO6 WITH MY MAX AND I WON.... DOES THAT MEAN I SMOKED HIM. OR DOES THAT JUST MEAN HE WASNT TRYING, CUZ WE ALL KNOW HE SHOULD HAVE HANDED ME MY *** ON A PLATE.
BUT THATS ALL RELATIVE, CUZ THERE ARE TOO MANY VARIABLES TO MENTION, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT KINDA STUFF.

OBTW THAT VID ISNT A VR4 ITS A SLOW.....
beg to differ:
http://www.sx7r.com/sx7rvids/vr4vsSX7R.MPG
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OK SPLAIN WHY YOU THINK ITS A VR4? BESIDES THE BADGING? YOU CANT JUST GO BY THE BADGING.... I KNOW OF THREE SL'S THAT HAVE TAKEN OFF THE SL AND PUT ON A VR4... NAME THE OTHER THREE WAYS YTOU CAN TELL IF ITS A VR4. THAT DOESNT MAKE THEM VR4'S


WAS IT AUTO OR STICK?
HOW FAST WERE YOU GOING AND DID YOU GUYS TRY FROM LIKE ROLLIN 60 OR WHAT?
ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS IS A TRICK QUESTION. JUST FYI
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Originally posted by NE1 4 69
OK SPLAIN WHY YOU THINK ITS A VR4? BESIDES THE BADGING? YOU CANT JUST GO BY THE BADGING.... I KNOW OF THREE SL'S THAT HAVE TAKEN OFF THE SL AND PUT ON A VR4... NAME THE OTHER THREE WAYS YTOU CAN TELL IF ITS A VR4. THAT DOESNT MAKE THEM VR4'S


WAS IT AUTO OR STICK?
HOW FAST WERE YOU GOING AND DID YOU GUYS TRY FROM LIKE ROLLIN 60 OR WHAT?
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Originally posted by NE1 4 69
OK SPLAIN WHY YOU THINK ITS A VR4? BESIDES THE BADGING? YOU CANT JUST GO BY THE BADGING.... I KNOW OF THREE SL'S THAT HAVE TAKEN OFF THE SL AND PUT ON A VR4... NAME THE OTHER THREE WAYS YTOU CAN TELL IF ITS A VR4. THAT DOESNT MAKE THEM VR4'S


WAS IT AUTO OR STICK?
HOW FAST WERE YOU GOING AND DID YOU GUYS TRY FROM LIKE ROLLIN 60 OR WHAT?
explain? because he is my friend. it is manual and that is from a stop, which is why he pulled me off the line and took me till the top of 3rd gear to pull past him. i shifted into 4th while i was passing him, so that would be 0 to 110mph(which is where the video ends).
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yours is a 99?

damn what have you done ta that biznitch???? what are you pullin in the 1/4? i have only seen one other max that takes my gxe and thats because they have the auto speacial (custom) tranny. hmmmm
i would love ta see under your hood, how come you dont list all your mods? i wanna know what ya got. (list performance mods only i dont care about ground effects and other bull sheot...
i want you to get a better video of this cuz i could give my friends a little rubin in there noses cuz there second cars are all fords or chevys. and mines a max. they didnt believe me that if done right i could beat there vr4's
did you do all the work yourself?
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Originally posted by NE1 4 69
yours is a 99?

damn what have you done ta that biznitch???? what are you pullin in the 1/4? i have only seen one other max that takes my gxe and thats because they have the auto speacial (custom) tranny. hmmmm
i would love ta see under your hood, how come you dont list all your mods? i wanna know what ya got. (list performance mods only i dont care about ground effects and other bull sheot...
i want you to get a better video of this cuz i could give my friends a little rubin in there noses cuz there second cars are all fords or chevys. and mines a max. they didnt believe me that if done right i could beat there vr4's
did you do all the work yourself?
at the time i had y-pipe, 2.5" catback, UDP, fuel pump, 100shot on a dry kit.
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your sprayin 100 shot arnt ya worried about throwin somethin?
at leats your using dry. i know someone who used a wet setup... main bearings and three rods later. stupid ***, didnt get the hint.
**** whats your skid path like now? have you had it dynoed yet?
i would love to know what you pushing to the ground.
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Something that might help to explain this is that on the interstate the difference between a 400hp car and a 200hp doesn't look as big as it does out of a light. I can think of Many many times I've run aginst friends in much much faster cars that destroy me out of a light and on the interstate I could almost make the call that we're dead even. Perhaps you rolled on the gas just that instant before him and in the 25 mph race you had (65-90) he wasn't able to make back the difference that you got from that .1 sec advantage you got. Just in my experiecne, VR-4's aren't all that fast It wouldn't surprise me for a max to almost get one.
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Originally posted by NE1 4 69
your sprayin 100 shot arnt ya worried about throwin somethin?
at leats your using dry. i know someone who used a wet setup... main bearings and three rods later. stupid ***, didnt get the hint.
**** whats your skid path like now? have you had it dynoed yet?
i would love to know what you pushing to the ground.
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NICE

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PROPS, i have many questions for you. i havent decided to spray or not i did get the SC, and i have made the bpu's that almost everyone has; cold air, downpipe, custom exhaust(true duel), what else have you done to it? i was thinking about test pipe but i dunno. i have to keep the cats on because there not very big and they have to be on for emmisions when i have to take em and i wont pass. im hitting 280 hp on the dyno, but i need to get it done again to see since i got the exhaust after i had it done. what do you sugest. psi is low as hell im afraid ta turn it up... and i need ta get the UDP also. who did you go to?
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