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Old Aug 4, 2002 | 07:48 AM
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Highest top speed in a max.

Has any one gotten their max faster than 140? Knowing that 140 is rev limited, it has to be someone with a raised rev limiter.
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What?
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umm max's go past 140, 5 gear goes up to i think 155



4th gear in a autotragic goes up to 180 i think


only 4th gens that have limiters are gxe's w/o C&C package and some gle's, other then that, none have a speed limiter
Old Aug 4, 2002 | 08:38 AM
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umm max's go past 140, 5 gear goes up to i think 155



4th gear in a autotragic goes up to 180 i think


only 4th gens that have limiters are gxe's w/o C&C package and some gle's, other then that, none have a speed limiter

They are Rev-limited at 140 the gear might be capable of 155 but unless you remore the rev-limiter it won't go faster than 140.
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this is not exactly topic related but look at the second page of this thread. It's a summary of an intersting article on top speed of the Maxima compared to other cars of the same year


http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....5&pagenumber=2
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They are Rev-limited at 140 the gear might be capable of 155 but unless you remore the rev-limiter it won't go faster than 140.

the rev limiter is at 6550 rpm, when the car is at 140 it is hard for it to push past it because ther are alot of factors stoping it from doing so like the aerodynamics of the car, how much the engine can push the vehicle, ect
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Have a canadian 95 GXE. Has some wierd fuel cutoff at 180 km/h. Sucks... don't even come close to the 140 you guys have.
Old Aug 4, 2002 | 09:13 AM
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lol - not another one of these again........... 4th gen can hit around 140mph+ -, 5th gens get cut off at 133 i believe
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Have a canadian 95 GXE. Has some wierd fuel cutoff at 180 km/h. Sucks... don't even come close to the 140 you guys have.

search for speed limiter removal....
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170+ in a 4th gen SE automatic
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Every person on this thread is wrong. There is NOT a governor at 140, TONS of people have gone faster than 140. Heck Motor Trend got a 95 5spd to 142.1mph. The only governor is at 116, and that is only on certain GXE maximas. With the stock tire size, the 5spd maxima's maximum possible is speed is 158mph, which is redline in 5th gear.
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dude this is all crazy ****.... who the hell would ever wanna do that just to go past 140 ??
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Originally posted by bags533
170+ in a 4th gen SE automatic

ok 170? 180? that seems a little to high. Maybe I cant detect the sarcasim, but anyone have proof? But I wouldnt doubt that the VQ can do like 150
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Originally posted by Nealoc187
Every person on this thread is wrong. There is NOT a governor at 140, TONS of people have gone faster than 140. Heck Motor Trend got a 95 5spd to 142.1mph. The only governor is at 116, and that is only on certain GXE maximas. With the stock tire size, the 5spd maxima's maximum possible is speed is 158mph, which is redline in 5th gear.
Okay maybe my cluch is slipping but when I took mine to 140 it was 100rpm above 6500, and I never said there was a speed limiter at 140, I was figuring in what mine did and not taking into account my clutch slipping or other factors like that. So now I know that if I supercharged my car, replaced the clutch, and upgraded the ecu I could probably have my car at 165 or so.
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Originally posted by FameMax



ok 170? 180? that seems a little to high. Maybe I cant detect the sarcasim, but anyone have proof? But I wouldnt doubt that the VQ can do like 150

Here is MY dyno. PLEASE AVOID THE SPIKES>>>>> SHIFT POINTS

Look at the bottom MPH... proof enough? Would you like a link to the video of it? Being a smarta$$ but yes I have it on video

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check links on the main page...

there is a web page for sleepin99 that shows a 99 GXE going well over 165MPH with 3 passengers and full trunk. look at the first pic.

drive.to/sleepin99

later.
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- I completely agree with Nealoc. Speedometers are virtually useless above 100 mph. To get to a true, RADAR-VERIFIED 170mph, you would need the following:

1. A 5-speed, as the 5th gear is taller than the auto's 4th.
2. Larger diameter wheel/tire package, to effectively make your final drive ratio taller.
3. A butt-load of power, to overcome the aerodynamic resistance and the 4th gen engine's unwillingness to make any real power above 5300rpm.

- If, and only if, you had the preceding requirements, 170mph could be possible. If not, then I can guarantee that you were suffering from speedometer error.
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Originally posted by SleeperSE
- I completely agree with Nealoc. Speedometers are virtually useless above 100 mph. To get to a true, RADAR-VERIFIED 170mph, you would need the following:

1. A 5-speed, as the 5th gear is taller than the auto's 4th.
2. Larger diameter wheel/tire package, to effectively make your final drive ratio taller.
3. A butt-load of power, to overcome the aerodynamic resistance and the 4th gen engine's unwillingness to make any real power above 5300rpm.

- If, and only if, you had the preceding requirements, 170mph could be possible. If not, then I can guarantee that you were suffering from speedometer error.
I could not agree more.
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Originally posted by SleeperSE
- I completely agree with Nealoc. Speedometers are virtually useless above 100 mph. To get to a true, RADAR-VERIFIED 170mph, you would need the following:
So a DYNO is not a TRUE VERIFIED MPH. Might want to check into that

Originally posted by SleeperSE

1. A 5-speed, as the 5th gear is taller than the auto's 4th.
2. Larger diameter wheel/tire package, to effectively make your final drive ratio taller.
You sure a 5 spd has a taller 5th gear than an auto's 4th gear? Your incorrect. Look it up here or in a service manual

Btw.. I have 18's on my ride


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3. A butt-load of power, to overcome the aerodynamic resistance and the 4th gen engine's unwillingness to make any real power above 5300rpm.
Not exactly, if your car is sitting still on a dyno... no aerodynamic resistance to overcome


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- If, and only if, you had the preceding requirements, 170mph could be possible. If not, then I can guarantee that you were suffering from speedometer error.

I had none of them and yes I did 170 MPH on a dyno. And maybe you were talking about doing 170 MPH on a street. BUT you never stated that. Also the thread started asking the top speed.. which again has been discussed alot, BUT a 4th gen SE auto can do 170 MPH.

BTW about 1/2 an inch under 140 your needle will stop moving, you will continue to go faster, but you can't find out how fast using a factory speedo.
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Originally posted by bags533


So a DYNO is not a TRUE VERIFIED MPH. Might want to check into that



You sure a 5 spd has a taller 5th gear than an auto's 4th gear? Your incorrect. Look it up here or in a service manual

Btw.. I have 18's on my ride




Not exactly, if your car is sitting still on a dyno... no aerodynamic resistance to overcome





I had none of them and yes I did 170 MPH on a dyno. And maybe you were talking about doing 170 MPH on a street. BUT you never stated that. Also the thread started asking the top speed.. which again has been discussed alot, BUT a 4th gen SE auto can do 170 MPH.

BTW about 1/2 an inch under 140 your needle will stop moving, you will continue to go faster, but you can't find out how fast using a factory speedo.
My needle was past 140 MPH so I don't think it'll stop moving.
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My needle was past 140 MPH so I don't think it'll stop moving.

Yes it will. I give you my word. Your needle will hit it's "stop"
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Originally posted by SleeperSE
- I completely agree with Nealoc. Speedometers are virtually useless above 100 mph. To get to a true, RADAR-VERIFIED 170mph, you would need the following:

1. A 5-speed, as the 5th gear is taller than the auto's 4th.
2. Larger diameter wheel/tire package, to effectively make your final drive ratio taller.
3. A butt-load of power, to overcome the aerodynamic resistance and the 4th gen engine's unwillingness to make any real power above 5300rpm.

- If, and only if, you had the preceding requirements, 170mph could be possible. If not, then I can guarantee that you were suffering from speedometer error.
You are Wrong
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Joesmax and i hit 130 in 5th gear easily in his 02 MAX 6spd. He still had some left in 5th then all of 6th to go...

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look at the pic...

at this site---> drive.to/sleepin99

the needle is pasted 140MPH and is pegged at the postion which is 160MPH. all maxima needles stop at that point. after that you have to guess how fast you're going. later.
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Do you guys have any idea how much hp is required to run 160-170 mph on the open road?(I don't even know what 170mph on a dyno means)

You would HAVE to do it in the stock car's highest gear(5th or OD in autos). THEN plan on having at least 400hp to even try to overcome the overdrive gear ratio.

Hint. Stock speedos are grossly inaccurate(as previously noted)
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Do you guys have any idea how much hp is required to run 160-170 mph on the open road?(I don't even know what 170mph on a dyno means)

You would HAVE to do it in the stock car's highest gear(5th or OD in autos). THEN plan on having at least 400hp to even try to overcome the overdrive gear ratio.

Hint. Stock speedos are grossly inaccurate(as previously noted)

When i first got my maxima from my cousin, he told me after much research that the speedometer is like 6% or so percent off... so lets say the speedometer says you're driving 100MPH, you're really driving 94MPH. The purpose for this is so Nissan doesn't get in legal trouble w/ ppl sueing them for speedometer error... when pulled over by a cop and given a ticket. It's something like that... anyone else heard of such a thing?
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Do you guys have any idea how much hp is required to run 160-170 mph on the open road?(I don't even know what 170mph on a dyno means)

You would HAVE to do it in the stock car's highest gear(5th or OD in autos). THEN plan on having at least 400hp to even try to overcome the overdrive gear ratio.

Hint. Stock speedos are grossly inaccurate(as previously noted)
Actually jeff, the only reason I know the top speed of my car is because I needed an all gear pull for a HP/TQ curve of every gear.

I wanted an all gear pull before and after the VI mod. So I can see how much HP or how much broader the HP/TQ curve is.

After talking to the guy who runs the dyno, it basicly mean how much "potential" top speed your car has.

You are very correct. I honestly think you would need about 275 FWHP to get to the 170 mph mark on an open road. And while it sounds exciting, I do not know of a road I would try it on.

So the dyno worked out for me since I was already there and need to run wide open. And it was safer than trying it on the street and I have a thing for going fast...

So it was just a thing for me to do.

So I guess it means I won't go 170 mph unless I am out in nevada trying for the land speed record of a maxima.... HMMM..

Might be worth trying... after the Forced Induction... leather interior and all

anyway... just trying to make some sense of where and why I happen to have this information.

oh yeah +1
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Just a side note guys...in some of the high performance forums(corvetteforum.com) most of the guys use GPS verified numbers. Everything else (excluding radar) is taken second hand. I personally have done 146 with my handheld GPS and my speedometer needle was pointing almost straight down..which I would have mistaken for 150+.
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Originally posted by FameMax



ok 170? 180? that seems a little to high. Maybe I cant detect the sarcasim, but anyone have proof? But I wouldnt doubt that the VQ can do like 150
go down a hill while redlining your final gear
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well why in the hell does my 97 se auto only go 125 mph and 120 mph with my subs in and all of you claim to do 140 and 170 and all this.
Old Aug 5, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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had a tune-up...
Old Aug 5, 2002 | 04:17 PM
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no no tune up for me
would that make that much of a difference?
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Top Speed

I've had mine above 140, and I only shut it down due to a curve coming at me pretty damn fast! It didn't pull very hard, but I might have been able to hit 150 if I had a longer stretch of straight road.

As for the tranny, I had my speedometer verified at 50mph, for about $150 by the NYS Troopers It was accurate at that speed, and I'm almost dead even at 2krpm in 5th at 50mph. Using simple math, I come up with about 162mph as being the top end of my 5th gear (6500 rpm).

I seriously doubt that I could get that high in 5th, though. I certainly would need more mods than I currently have to do it.

I guess my point is: Even if my car had FI, NOS, whatever other mods you can think of, my 5th gear would only allow 162 (without taking it beyond redline).
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Wow after reading all of this I know I need a new clutch. For the past year because of personal experiance I have thought that our 5th gear topped out at 140.
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Somebody here posted a link about a month ago showing his 4th gen doing 170 on a dyno. Can't remember, maybe try searching. But I saw the clip ....pretty impressive!

Originally posted by 96SE5Spd
Wow after reading all of this I know I need a new clutch. For the past year because of personal experiance I have thought that our 5th gear topped out at 140.
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Somebody here posted a link about a month ago showing his 4th gen doing 170 on a dyno. Can't remember, maybe try searching. But I saw the clip ....pretty impressive!

I saw the clip the car sounded great. I think it was bags car, he was talking about it earlier in this thread.
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Yep speedos are inaccurate and get worse the faster you go. Many vehicles have errors of 7% or more at high speeds. So 150 would be 139.5. A gps is the best way to truly tell or you can get a "yellow box" to recalibrate your speedo.

unless you guys have ridiculous mods, After 130 the car barely accelerates (I'm a 5 speed). You'd need a TON of hp and miles of road to hit 170 in a max if you could even hit that with our gearing. Anyone here ever actually gone that fast in a land vehicle? It is damned fast!
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Originally posted by kratz74
Yep speedos are inaccurate and get worse the faster you go. Many vehicles have errors of 7% or more at high speeds. So 150 would be 139.5. A gps is the best way to truly tell or you can get a "yellow box" to recalibrate your speedo.

unless you guys have ridiculous mods, After 130 the car barely accelerates (I'm a 5 speed). You'd need a TON of hp and miles of road to hit 170 in a max if you could even hit that with our gearing. Anyone here ever actually gone that fast in a land vehicle? It is damned fast!

Hah! My top speed (read earlier post) is the same as your trap speed on your Hayabusa. I need a bike!



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