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Old 08-13-2002, 06:46 PM
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Gauging Interest: 97-99 Red/Clear Outer Tails that match the Inners

I know there are alot of red/clear tails, but they all have the florescent office light diffusers and they do not match the inside reverse lights at all. The reverse lights have a certain square pattern to them, where the florescent covers are more diamond shaped, and do not match.

The ones I may be able to get will match the inner tails for a better look. Price should be around $200 per pair. Any interest?
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you can open up the inner ones as well and do the samething to them.
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I would have been interested before I got the flourescent clears...too much bother now...so I would think others with the orange lenses would be interested.
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Originally posted by 96MAXIMAGXE
you can open up the inner ones as well and do the samething to them.
Yes, I have done this on my car, however I do not like the exposed bulbs look. Also if you use florescent material twice I still do not think it looks as good as the pattern of the OEM diffusers.
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Old 08-13-2002, 08:42 PM
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how about 95/96 red/clears at a decent price? ($100 ?)
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Old 08-13-2002, 09:15 PM
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Re: Gauging Interest: 97-99 Red/Clear Outer Tails that match the Inners

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I know there are alot of red/clear tails, but they all have the florescent office light diffusers and they do not match the inside reverse lights at all. The reverse lights have a certain square pattern to them, where the florescent covers are more diamond shaped, and do not match.

The ones I may be able to get will match the inner tails for a better look. Price should be around $200 per pair. Any interest?
if you can just sell the inner piece that match, plenty people will buy, i guess. I know I'll buy for sure if the price is reasonable. I guess most people are not willing to spend $200 when they have done the florescent clear tail work after only spending less than $5 dollars and feel good about themself. The clear tails with florescent look good already why bother spend extra $200.
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I might be interested if they looked just like the inner piece and had a real automotive style diffuser. Would you be able to sell just the diffuser? Now that I have red clears that look pretty good it would be hard to drop $200 on one that looked a little better.
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Old 08-13-2002, 10:32 PM
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This all has brought up an excellent point. I'll probably just see to getting the diffusers made by themselves.
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Old 08-14-2002, 05:14 AM
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ill buy a pair of just the diffuser if they get made separate
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Old 08-14-2002, 05:41 AM
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ill buy a pair of just the diffuser if they get made separate
Me too. As long as they are not $200
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Old 08-14-2002, 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by Axra


Me too. As long as they are not $200
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Old 08-15-2002, 03:10 PM
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Were you planning on getting entire tails made or just the diffusers? Once you pay for molding/development cost the diffusers should be very cheap to make (I think). If you consider how much labor goes into getting a piece of floresent light cover perfect it is probably cheaper to have pre made diffusers.

I was thinking about getting diffusers made and putting them into tails myself to sell but I really don't have time and would not know where to start. I found taking the tails apart to be very easy, it was cutting the light cover that was a PITA. If people are willing to pay $200 for tail lights with floresent light cover in it then they should be willing to pay that for tails with a real diffuser.
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Old 08-15-2002, 09:48 PM
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contact a factory and ask them to do is the difficult part, need connection (Made In Taiwan? consider all aftermarket clear bumpers are MIT), need investment money, and need time.

by the way, ericwong, what's the progress so far??

myself think taking the tail out is the most difficult part
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I think the florescent material looks kinda cheesy, but still 100x better than yellow. I would definitely buy OEM-style pieces.
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When I was considering doing the tails the proper way, I took the orange 'inner' and went to an injection molding place. They could definitely make the mold for the piece, but to have the mold and the pieces made in portugal was like $15-20k. A little less in Taiwan, but the quality was not as good. We didn't wanna put that much money into the project because we wouldn't have been able to make a profit. Plus most people would have complained if we charged like $50 just for the pieces, or like $250 for the complete tails. Eric, if you can get some pieces made out of the same material as the orange ones that are white, you will be very popular
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Eric, if you can get some pieces made out of the same material as the orange ones that are white, you will be very popular
Totally a great idea. I'd buy them for sure.
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i think the flourescent light cover looks hot, why don't we just open up the inner tails and do the same thing with the outer tails? they look better than matching the inner tails.
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some people (myself included) do not like the flourescent look
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Originally posted by xsp00kyx
i think the flourescent light cover looks hot, why don't we just open up the inner tails and do the same thing with the outer tails? they look better than matching the inner tails.
they don't reflect light the correct way. You can barely see the turns in the day time.
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so what kind of material is used for the inner tails??
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Old 08-27-2002, 08:29 AM
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Stay tuned, I'm in the "next stage" for getting these developed. As for price, thats the next stage I'm figuring out
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Originally posted by ericdwong
Stay tuned, I'm in the "next stage" for getting these developed. As for price, thats the next stage I'm figuring out

...hook it up!

I'm looking to clear these babies real soon so please let me know what's up.
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Originally posted by ericdwong
This all has brought up an excellent point. I'll probably just see to getting the diffusers made by themselves.


if you make the pieces on the inside ill buy a set.
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how much will they go for??
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If the price is right, I'm there too.
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I dont know. I would be scared to open up the tails for the 2nd time, for fear of moisture leaks. I've had my clear/red tails for more than 3 years now, and it doesnt leak at all. I've opened up some lights on hondas (friends car) and we did a bad job and he has leaks!! haha. I'm usually very picky about very little stuff, but the non matching floures. cover in my tails doesnt bother me at all for some reason.
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Originally posted by hokiemax
I dont know. I would be scared to open up the tails for the 2nd time, for fear of moisture leaks. I've had my clear/red tails for more than 3 years now, and it doesnt leak at all. I've opened up some lights on hondas (friends car) and we did a bad job and he has leaks!! haha. I'm usually very picky about very little stuff, but the non matching floures. cover in my tails doesnt bother me at all for some reason.
Do the ones at custommaxima.com match the inners? Those aren't the flourescent material are they?
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Originally posted by maximised


Do the ones at custommaxima.com match the inners? Those aren't the flourescent material are they?
No and yes, respectively.
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Originally posted by ericdwong


No and yes, respectively.
ooh, yuck...in that case, put me on your list!
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Re: Gauging Interest: 97-99 Red/Clear Outer Tails that match the Inners

How are we coming along?
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Old 08-29-2002, 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by ericdwong
Stay tuned, I'm in the "next stage" for getting these developed. As for price, thats the next stage I'm figuring out
Cool, will these replace both the orange and red piece? Even on a stock max I think that little red light looks totally lost.
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I down for a set too. Keep us posted.
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Originally posted by JeffesonM
some people (myself included) do not like the flourescent look
Agreed. The flourescent look and the fact that it wouldn't match made me decide not to clear my tails. Eric: Good luck and thanks for pursuing this angle.
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Any update yet? I'm waiting to clear out my tails cause of you!
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The chances of it happening are slim IMO. Keep the faith i guess
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You want to make money.. find out how to do it for the Lexus GS series .. because they don't b!tch about prices.. as Nick said before.. after you have this done.. you are still going to have people b!tch and moan about prices.. it would probably even be more profitable for you to do the 95 / 96 .. as long as you can still do something simular for under $5 with the 97 - 99 that product will never sell big and never make you profit..

but i don't want to be a pessimist
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OK I have received word from the plastics molding company. Of course the more that are sold, the cheaper each one gets. I got a quote for 30 pairs of lenses to be made initiall and the price was still out of this world. It wasnt as bad as the $20,000 I was quoted before, but it was still in the neighborhood of $80 EACH lens! NOBODY is gonna buy at that price considering the entire light assembly is cheaper thru the dealers. I am still gonna see if I can do some bargaining. As usual I'll keep you posted.
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Originally posted by ericdwong
OK I have received word from the plastics molding company. Of course the more that are sold, the cheaper each one gets. I got a quote for 30 pairs of lenses to be made initiall and the price was still out of this world. It wasnt as bad as the $20,000 I was quoted before, but it was still in the neighborhood of $80 EACH lens! NOBODY is gonna buy at that price considering the entire light assembly is cheaper thru the dealers. I am still gonna see if I can do some bargaining. As usual I'll keep you posted.
Thanks for the update, keep us posted...
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Old 09-05-2002, 02:35 PM
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yeah, $80 a pair is too much. we need to have more people to get this like the diamond clears. than, we can get like $25 a pair. guess not many people willing to take out the tails. thank you for the effort of trying.
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Originally posted by ericdwong
OK I have received word from the plastics molding company. Of course the more that are sold, the cheaper each one gets. I got a quote for 30 pairs of lenses to be made initiall and the price was still out of this world. It wasnt as bad as the $20,000 I was quoted before, but it was still in the neighborhood of $80 EACH lens! NOBODY is gonna buy at that price considering the entire light assembly is cheaper thru the dealers. I am still gonna see if I can do some bargaining. As usual I'll keep you posted.
So about $5000 total? Are they significantly cheaper after the inital molding is taken care of? Could a much larger amount be made for a minor cost increase? I would think the initial design and molding would be the biggest expense. If sombody has the money up front they could probably make a good profit selling these, but it might take a few months to mak it back. Unfourtunatly at the moment I am not in a financial position to do this . If no one here can swing it maybe someone like Greg (CustomMaxima) would be willing to, I am sure thes would make sombody a profit in the long run.
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