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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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Another AGX Install Completed This Weekend

It's amazing how many suspensions I find that have been put together wrong by somebody else. This time the upper strut perches were both wrong on the front and one set of H&R's were upside down. No wonder the car rode funny and made crazy noises.

I think the Stillen rear stabalizer bar is a waste of $$$. I definately don't like the design at all. It only hangs on the trailing arms and doesn't brace onto the beam like the Addco bar does. How does that stop body roll? It was also installed wrong on this car. It was so far forward it was hitting the floor boards on large bumps limiting the rear suspension travel. The guy that worked on this car prior really knew his stuff.

Well 2-1/2 hours of work later and the car rides tight and quiet again.

Keep your eyes on the org to see who's car it was I did today. I'm sure [hint]she'll[/hint] make a post soon regarding the install.
Old Sep 7, 2002 | 09:36 PM
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hi Tom

Old Sep 7, 2002 | 09:39 PM
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lol, she was the first person i had in my head
Old Sep 7, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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Re: hi Tom

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I guess I have to update the Cotm page now, eh?
Old Sep 7, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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Re: hi Tom

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you have H&Rs? I thought you had GCs? what are those in your sig?
Old Sep 8, 2002 | 12:47 AM
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Re: hi Tom

Angie,

I haven't met you before...or saw your car in person, but I always admire that Pacific Blue Jaguar paint of yours.

Finding you got the springs installed incorrectly was a surprise!

Man, I am glad that Tom helped you out. He also made me realized that I installed the rear struts facing the other side (***** on AGX facing the disc brake.



..but hey! I believe everything else is installed correctly.

Tom, man...you are the MAN!


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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 02:54 AM
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Re: Re: hi Tom

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Tom, man...you are the MAN!


agree!
Old Sep 8, 2002 | 03:21 AM
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Thoughts on RSBs, Addco vs. Stillen

Despite my dislike for the Stillen, I believe it reduces body roll by twisting or increasing torsional stiffness in the rear to equalize lift of the wheels.

Tom, I used to have my RSB very far forward, trying to get as much oversteer as possible. That's why it hoppped and skipped over bumpy roads...it did so much "twisting" that the rear lifted up a lot.
Old Sep 8, 2002 | 04:41 AM
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Ange...you like the AGX's?
Old Sep 8, 2002 | 05:48 AM
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I don't really see the benefit of the rear stabilizer on a beam suspension anyway.
Old Sep 8, 2002 | 06:38 AM
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Re: Re: hi Tom

Originally posted by ardika

Tom, man...you are the MAN!
Old Sep 8, 2002 | 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by TurDz

Tom, I used to have my RSB very far forward, trying to get as much oversteer as possible. That's why it hoppped and skipped over bumpy roads...it did so much "twisting" that the rear lifted up a lot.
Good to know. It is a bigger bar then the Addco one. But what puzzles me is that it's only attached to the trailing arms of the beam. The Addco bar grabs the trailing arm and the beam itself.

Wait a sec.. Now that I think about it, the Addco bar doesn't grab the beam. It grabs the trailing arms in 2 locations. One at the end of the bar (forward) and the other right before the beam where the bar begins to bend and go along the beam. So basically they do sort of work with the same principal in mind.

OK - Makes sense to me now. I have to take a peak under my a$$ end to verify that Addco setup again.
Old Sep 8, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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Nismo: I put together a Ground Control groupdeal a while back for org guys, I didn't buy GC's though. I've always had H&R springs (like on my sig).


ardika: Thank you.

Mitch33x: Love 'em.

Tom's the man alright
Old Sep 8, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd

Good to know. It is a bigger bar then the Addco one. But what puzzles me is that it's only attached to the trailing arms of the beam. The Addco bar grabs the trailing arm and the beam itself.

Wait a sec.. Now that I think about it, the Addco bar doesn't grab the beam. It grabs the trailing arms in 2 locations. One at the end of the bar (forward) and the other right before the beam where the bar begins to bend and go along the beam. So basically they do sort of work with the same principal in mind.

OK - Makes sense to me now. I have to take a peak under my a$$ end to verify that Addco setup again.

Old Sep 8, 2002 | 04:46 PM
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This tom guy sure knows his stuff.

I beleive him when he says he can do these installs in his sleep!

So when's the Y coming Tom?

Ange,

Have you figured out which settings you like best so far? I was doing 2/4 but brought it back down to 1/1, still messing with them after three months.

Kevin
Old Sep 8, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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I agree, I pm Tom with various questions regarding my h&r/agx install about a month ago. He reply with great information as if he was right there. Tom is the max suspension expert.
Old Sep 8, 2002 | 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by Kevin
This tom guy sure knows his stuff.

I beleive him when he says he can do these installs in his sleep!

So when's the Y coming Tom?

Ange,

Have you figured out which settings you like best so far? I was doing 2/4 but brought it back down to 1/1, still messing with them after three months.

Kevin
I think 3/4 is good for highway. As you know, local roads around central NJ can be spotty.. I'm in favor of 2/4 (front/rear) in those conditions.
Old Sep 8, 2002 | 08:35 PM
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Welcome to the club

I ride my AGX/B&G setup on 2/4. I tried 3/6 but it just felt too harsh on anything but smooth roads.
Old Sep 9, 2002 | 12:10 AM
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i didn't know u could incorrectly install spring and rsb? sorry *** installers. that's another reason to install things yourself. good to see a member helping another member!
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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 05:49 AM
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Who did the original installs?! Make sure you post about how much they suck, Ange. I'm glad Tom got everything straightened out for ya. Tom, did you use your brother's shop? I need my own shop.
Old Sep 9, 2002 | 05:50 AM
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Originally posted by Kevin

So when's the Y coming Tom?


Kevin
Any day now. Just in time for some nice cool fall weather.

Cool air + Y pipe = FAST MAX!
Old Sep 9, 2002 | 06:54 AM
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Tom, which Y pipe are you getting?
Old Sep 9, 2002 | 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by mikese
Tom, which Y pipe are you getting?
Warpspeed Aluminized

Erica - We did the install at my house. I just read a thread that Deezo got himself H&R's and AGX's. Shall we have another mini suspension meet?
Old Sep 9, 2002 | 07:04 AM
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How long does an aluminized y pipe last? I thought they last like 5 years??
Old Sep 9, 2002 | 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by mikese
How long does an aluminized y pipe last? I thought they last like 5 years??
I think Warpspeed has 4 year rust through warranty on the pipe. I look at it this way. OEM exhause is aluminized. How many of them do you hear about rusting through?
Old Sep 9, 2002 | 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd

I think Warpspeed has 4 year rust through warranty on the pipe. I look at it this way. OEM exhause is aluminized. How many of them do you hear about rusting through?
On my last car the exhaust rusted through, but it was 9 years old. Also since we live in the NorthEast, the winter months with salted roads make it even worse. I would guess an Aluminized pipe could last 10+ yrs in the southern states.
Old Sep 9, 2002 | 08:36 AM
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That's a good way of putting it. I didn't know the oem was made from the same material. Stillen is also aluminized, right???
Old Sep 9, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd

Warpspeed Aluminized

Erica - We did the install at my house. I just read a thread that Deezo got himself H&R's and AGX's. Shall we have another mini suspension meet?
heheh sure...whenever. I'm busy tomorrow night and then my schedule is clean.
Old Sep 9, 2002 | 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd

I think Warpspeed has 4 year rust through warranty on the pipe. I look at it this way. OEM exhause is aluminized. How many of them do you hear about rusting through?
you are the official maxima suspension expert lol. why don't you get the budget ypipe? i heard they're making them with mandrel bends now for the same price.
Old Sep 9, 2002 | 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by VQdriver
why don't you get the budget ypipe?
I researched a ton of threads and Warpspeed seems to be the top choice. No noises or fitment issues.

Every now and then you come across a post regarding Budget with noise & fitment problems. Also I have an SE-L with Cali spec. emissions. Some have had a hard time getting the correct pipe for this particular model. Warpspeed spicifically calls out the pipe for my car.

I think it was the best choise.
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njmaxseltd: you help peeps on this board install suspension parts for free? dang, that's really nice of you ... wish I was still up in Jersey. I wonder if anyone in Atlanta would help me
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Originally posted by Parsec
njmaxseltd: you help peeps on this board install suspension parts for free? dang, that's really nice of you ... wish I was still up in Jersey. I wonder if anyone in Atlanta would help me
nothing is free

right Tom
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