To those that hate Sprint springs
#1
To those that hate Sprint springs
It seems on this board, peope either hate, or love Sprint springs. From what I can gather, Sprint offers a very low drop (around 2"). About the only negative comment I can find is people say that it lowers so much that suspension travel becomes insufficient for aggressive driving such as autocross racing.
So for those of you that hate Sprint springs, why do you hate them so much?
So for those of you that hate Sprint springs, why do you hate them so much?
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Re: To those that hate Sprint springs
Originally posted by Sin
it lowers so much that suspension travel becomes insufficient
it lowers so much that suspension travel becomes insufficient
To gain more travel with a 2 inch drop you should be looking at Cattmans new coilovers. The strut/shock is shortened to give back suspension travel. That setup looks like the way to go if your looking for drops around 2 inches or even more.
#4
I love them, but the people that hate them either hate them for:
1. Not enough suspension travel.
2. With a bodykit, you cannot clear ANYTHING.
But if you are not planning to get a bodykit, they looks great. You need to cut a coil in the back for them to sit even though, you might be okay with the uneven drop to begin with but with time you will cut it. I'm going to.
-Cyrus
1. Not enough suspension travel.
2. With a bodykit, you cannot clear ANYTHING.
But if you are not planning to get a bodykit, they looks great. You need to cut a coil in the back for them to sit even though, you might be okay with the uneven drop to begin with but with time you will cut it. I'm going to.
-Cyrus
#5
Re: Re: To those that hate Sprint springs
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
You've answered your own question. The Maxima doesn't have much suspension travel left when you drop it 2 inches. It's the strut and shock travel that limits you.
To gain more travel with a 2 inch drop you should be looking at Cattmans new coilovers. The strut/shock is shortened to give back suspension travel. That setup looks like the way to go if your looking for drops around 2 inches or even more.
You've answered your own question. The Maxima doesn't have much suspension travel left when you drop it 2 inches. It's the strut and shock travel that limits you.
To gain more travel with a 2 inch drop you should be looking at Cattmans new coilovers. The strut/shock is shortened to give back suspension travel. That setup looks like the way to go if your looking for drops around 2 inches or even more.
#6
Re: Re: Re: To those that hate Sprint springs
Originally posted by gtr_rider
What if you run stock shocks?
What if you run stock shocks?
-Cyrus
#7
Originally posted by Vyrus
I love them, but the people that hate them either hate them for:
1. Not enough suspension travel.
2. With a bodykit, you cannot clear ANYTHING.
But if you are not planning to get a bodykit, they looks great. You need to cut a coil in the back for them to sit even though, you might be okay with the uneven drop to begin with but with time you will cut it. I'm going to.
-Cyrus
I love them, but the people that hate them either hate them for:
1. Not enough suspension travel.
2. With a bodykit, you cannot clear ANYTHING.
But if you are not planning to get a bodykit, they looks great. You need to cut a coil in the back for them to sit even though, you might be okay with the uneven drop to begin with but with time you will cut it. I'm going to.
-Cyrus
As for the rear being higher than the front, is it as much of a difference as the rear being lower than the front stock? I've noticed that all 4th gen Maximas seem lower in the rear than in the front. Do Sprint springs basically reverse this? This may not be a bad thing for me, because I have about 100 lbs of stereo equipment in the trunk. Maybe with the stereo equipment it'll run level.
#8
Originally posted by Sin
My previous car was a Volvo 850 Turbo, with lots of work done to it, including a bodykit and lowered suspension with only about 4" clearence at the front lip. I actually measured it, and it was only 4" off the ground. The control arms were only 3" off the ground. Not to mention the overhang on that car is worse than the Maximas. So for all those people scraping, you just have to be more careful.
As for the rear being higher than the front, is it as much of a difference as the rear being lower than the front stock? I've noticed that all 4th gen Maximas seem lower in the rear than in the front. Do Sprint springs basically reverse this? This may not be a bad thing for me, because I have about 100 lbs of stereo equipment in the trunk. Maybe with the stereo equipment it'll run level.
My previous car was a Volvo 850 Turbo, with lots of work done to it, including a bodykit and lowered suspension with only about 4" clearence at the front lip. I actually measured it, and it was only 4" off the ground. The control arms were only 3" off the ground. Not to mention the overhang on that car is worse than the Maximas. So for all those people scraping, you just have to be more careful.
As for the rear being higher than the front, is it as much of a difference as the rear being lower than the front stock? I've noticed that all 4th gen Maximas seem lower in the rear than in the front. Do Sprint springs basically reverse this? This may not be a bad thing for me, because I have about 100 lbs of stereo equipment in the trunk. Maybe with the stereo equipment it'll run level.
-Cyrus
#9
Originally posted by Vyrus
Yes they will reverse it, and from what I've heard and seen 100lbs will not really change this. Granted it will be lower with the weight in the rear, but because they are so stiff it will be a very little difference. The difference is VERY big, my rear is as high as a stock 4th Gen no kidding (I've measured and I was .3" lower). The front is over 2", when I measured 2.2". So yes it looks wierd, but then rolling the downforce will level it out.
-Cyrus
Yes they will reverse it, and from what I've heard and seen 100lbs will not really change this. Granted it will be lower with the weight in the rear, but because they are so stiff it will be a very little difference. The difference is VERY big, my rear is as high as a stock 4th Gen no kidding (I've measured and I was .3" lower). The front is over 2", when I measured 2.2". So yes it looks wierd, but then rolling the downforce will level it out.
-Cyrus
IanS
#13
I modified my suspension for performance, not for looks. This is why I found Sprints to be bad. They compromised suspension travel too much.
If you want to be low, go for it. If you want to have safe, predictable performance that is much better than anything stock, skip them.
If you want to be low, go for it. If you want to have safe, predictable performance that is much better than anything stock, skip them.
#14
Originally posted by mzmtg
I modified my suspension for performance, not for looks. This is why I found Sprints to be bad. They compromised suspension travel too much.
If you want to be low, go for it. If you want to have safe, predictable performance that is much better than anything stock, skip them.
I modified my suspension for performance, not for looks. This is why I found Sprints to be bad. They compromised suspension travel too much.
If you want to be low, go for it. If you want to have safe, predictable performance that is much better than anything stock, skip them.
-Cyrus
#15
I drove Soon2BMaxed's Max with Sprint/AGX for about a 1/4 mile and I could tell huge difference in harshness over my H&Rs. You can feel the car pitching, bobbing, and bouncing a lot even over the smoothest surfaces. You can even watch the car go down the road and see that the suspension is working pretty hard (bouncing etc). That's the price you end up paying for a good looking drop. I had Intrax which give nearly the same drop as the Sprints, but over time I just couldn't handle the limited clearance and the harsher ride over choppy surfaces. Younger guys don't seem to mind the harshness though.
I have a very time believing stock struts could after last with Sprints. The Sprints are so much lower and firmer that the stock struts would be WELL out of their operating range and will fail quickly, especially the rears. The struts won't blow out quickly either, they'll do it slowly and most driver's won't notice the change in ride.
Dave
I have a very time believing stock struts could after last with Sprints. The Sprints are so much lower and firmer that the stock struts would be WELL out of their operating range and will fail quickly, especially the rears. The struts won't blow out quickly either, they'll do it slowly and most driver's won't notice the change in ride.
Dave
#17
I have NEVER bottomed out my sprints, sure i scrape my front lip underneath every now and then...no biggie...its NJ for christs sake. On my 95 SE i have tokico's with eibach pro kit springs...AWESOME handling...hideous drop(in other words no drop)...and they rode rougher than the sprints but then again i have AGX's now which weren't available 2 years ago.
#22
Originally posted by mzmtg
I modified my suspension for performance, not for looks. This is why I found Sprints to be bad. They compromised suspension travel too much.
If you want to be low, go for it. If you want to have safe, predictable performance that is much better than anything stock, skip them.
I modified my suspension for performance, not for looks. This is why I found Sprints to be bad. They compromised suspension travel too much.
If you want to be low, go for it. If you want to have safe, predictable performance that is much better than anything stock, skip them.
#26
Originally posted by Sin
What does width of the tire have to do with making these springs suck so much?
What does width of the tire have to do with making these springs suck so much?
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Originally posted by SprintMax
all i know is.. i tried to do the same thing on my 15's i did with my 18's and i almost lost it around a turn..
all i know is.. i tried to do the same thing on my 15's i did with my 18's and i almost lost it around a turn..
15" = High profile - lots of tire squirm
18" = Low profile - nice and tight
And you, of all people wondered why that happened?
#28
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
15" = High profile - lots of tire squirm
18" = Low profile - nice and tight
And you, of all people wondered why that happened?
15" = High profile - lots of tire squirm
18" = Low profile - nice and tight
And you, of all people wondered why that happened?
#29
I have sprints/AGXs. I love them. They have NEVER bottomed out on me. Even under VERY hard driving. I think the ride is just fine with the AGXs although I never had the sprints with stock struts. Bang for your buck, handling and looks...you can't beat the sprints
#32
Originally posted by raga55
i have 27 000 miles on my car u think i could go wit the sprints and stock struts for a lil while?
i have 27 000 miles on my car u think i could go wit the sprints and stock struts for a lil while?
-Cyrus
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