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Old 10-20-2002, 09:27 AM
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To those that hate Sprint springs

It seems on this board, peope either hate, or love Sprint springs. From what I can gather, Sprint offers a very low drop (around 2"). About the only negative comment I can find is people say that it lowers so much that suspension travel becomes insufficient for aggressive driving such as autocross racing.

So for those of you that hate Sprint springs, why do you hate them so much?
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Yea, I need to know this as well since im looking to get some very soon.
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Re: To those that hate Sprint springs

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it lowers so much that suspension travel becomes insufficient
You've answered your own question. The Maxima doesn't have much suspension travel left when you drop it 2 inches. It's the strut and shock travel that limits you.

To gain more travel with a 2 inch drop you should be looking at Cattmans new coilovers. The strut/shock is shortened to give back suspension travel. That setup looks like the way to go if your looking for drops around 2 inches or even more.
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I love them, but the people that hate them either hate them for:
1. Not enough suspension travel.
2. With a bodykit, you cannot clear ANYTHING.

But if you are not planning to get a bodykit, they looks great. You need to cut a coil in the back for them to sit even though, you might be okay with the uneven drop to begin with but with time you will cut it. I'm going to.
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Re: Re: To those that hate Sprint springs

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You've answered your own question. The Maxima doesn't have much suspension travel left when you drop it 2 inches. It's the strut and shock travel that limits you.

To gain more travel with a 2 inch drop you should be looking at Cattmans new coilovers. The strut/shock is shortened to give back suspension travel. That setup looks like the way to go if your looking for drops around 2 inches or even more.
What if you run stock shocks?
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Re: Re: Re: To those that hate Sprint springs

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What if you run stock shocks?
Everyone will tell you they will blow. I proved everyone wrong. I've been riding on them for 12+ months and I've had them professionally checked (not just the bounce check) and they're NOT blown. I even hit a pothole so hard I got a bubble in the tire, but the stut was fine. However let me tell you the handling will not improve like they will with struts, so I'm going AGX soon.
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Old 10-20-2002, 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by Vyrus
I love them, but the people that hate them either hate them for:
1. Not enough suspension travel.
2. With a bodykit, you cannot clear ANYTHING.

But if you are not planning to get a bodykit, they looks great. You need to cut a coil in the back for them to sit even though, you might be okay with the uneven drop to begin with but with time you will cut it. I'm going to.
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My previous car was a Volvo 850 Turbo, with lots of work done to it, including a bodykit and lowered suspension with only about 4" clearence at the front lip. I actually measured it, and it was only 4" off the ground. The control arms were only 3" off the ground. Not to mention the overhang on that car is worse than the Maximas. So for all those people scraping, you just have to be more careful.

As for the rear being higher than the front, is it as much of a difference as the rear being lower than the front stock? I've noticed that all 4th gen Maximas seem lower in the rear than in the front. Do Sprint springs basically reverse this? This may not be a bad thing for me, because I have about 100 lbs of stereo equipment in the trunk. Maybe with the stereo equipment it'll run level.
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Originally posted by Sin


My previous car was a Volvo 850 Turbo, with lots of work done to it, including a bodykit and lowered suspension with only about 4" clearence at the front lip. I actually measured it, and it was only 4" off the ground. The control arms were only 3" off the ground. Not to mention the overhang on that car is worse than the Maximas. So for all those people scraping, you just have to be more careful.

As for the rear being higher than the front, is it as much of a difference as the rear being lower than the front stock? I've noticed that all 4th gen Maximas seem lower in the rear than in the front. Do Sprint springs basically reverse this? This may not be a bad thing for me, because I have about 100 lbs of stereo equipment in the trunk. Maybe with the stereo equipment it'll run level.
Yes they will reverse it, and from what I've heard and seen 100lbs will not really change this. Granted it will be lower with the weight in the rear, but because they are so stiff it will be a very little difference. The difference is VERY big, my rear is as high as a stock 4th Gen no kidding (I've measured and I was .3" lower). The front is over 2", when I measured 2.2". So yes it looks wierd, but then rolling the downforce will level it out.
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Originally posted by Vyrus

Yes they will reverse it, and from what I've heard and seen 100lbs will not really change this. Granted it will be lower with the weight in the rear, but because they are so stiff it will be a very little difference. The difference is VERY big, my rear is as high as a stock 4th Gen no kidding (I've measured and I was .3" lower). The front is over 2", when I measured 2.2". So yes it looks wierd, but then rolling the downforce will level it out.
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Strange, I've got Sprints, and they are a perfect 2.1" drop all the way around.



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Old 10-20-2002, 10:19 AM
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Strange, I've got Sprints, and they are a perfect 2.1" drop all the way around.



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yeah, with your stereo mine are the same when my system is in.



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Originally posted by Soon2BMaxed
yeah, with your stereo mine are the same when my system is in.



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Yeha, but my stereo is only 1 10" and 2 amps. Not that much.

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Old 10-20-2002, 10:31 AM
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Body Kit w/ Sprints. & i live in NJ Look at the sig, u can still drive it anywhere just gotta be careful
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Old 10-20-2002, 10:37 AM
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I modified my suspension for performance, not for looks. This is why I found Sprints to be bad. They compromised suspension travel too much.

If you want to be low, go for it. If you want to have safe, predictable performance that is much better than anything stock, skip them.
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Old 10-20-2002, 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by mzmtg
I modified my suspension for performance, not for looks. This is why I found Sprints to be bad. They compromised suspension travel too much.

If you want to be low, go for it. If you want to have safe, predictable performance that is much better than anything stock, skip them.
Oh yeah I forgot to tell you yesterday, the Maxima.Org eMail viruses have a new sender: ben_k_garner
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Old 10-20-2002, 10:42 AM
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I drove Soon2BMaxed's Max with Sprint/AGX for about a 1/4 mile and I could tell huge difference in harshness over my H&Rs. You can feel the car pitching, bobbing, and bouncing a lot even over the smoothest surfaces. You can even watch the car go down the road and see that the suspension is working pretty hard (bouncing etc). That's the price you end up paying for a good looking drop. I had Intrax which give nearly the same drop as the Sprints, but over time I just couldn't handle the limited clearance and the harsher ride over choppy surfaces. Younger guys don't seem to mind the harshness though.

I have a very time believing stock struts could after last with Sprints. The Sprints are so much lower and firmer that the stock struts would be WELL out of their operating range and will fail quickly, especially the rears. The struts won't blow out quickly either, they'll do it slowly and most driver's won't notice the change in ride.


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Has anyone actually bottomed out their suspension while on Sprint springs under hard cornering, and not on a big bump?
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Old 10-20-2002, 11:10 AM
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I have NEVER bottomed out my sprints, sure i scrape my front lip underneath every now and then...no biggie...its NJ for christs sake. On my 95 SE i have tokico's with eibach pro kit springs...AWESOME handling...hideous drop(in other words no drop)...and they rode rougher than the sprints but then again i have AGX's now which weren't available 2 years ago.
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SO im doomed?
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Originally posted by gtr_rider
SO im doomed?
How many miles do you have on your stock struts? If over 100k I wouldn't try it.
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Originally posted by Vyrus

How many miles do you have on your stock struts? If over 100k I wouldn't try it.
160k
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Originally posted by gtr_rider


160k
Just wait and spend $350 for AGXs.
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Originally posted by mzmtg
I modified my suspension for performance, not for looks. This is why I found Sprints to be bad. They compromised suspension travel too much.

If you want to be low, go for it. If you want to have safe, predictable performance that is much better than anything stock, skip them.
SPRINT SPRINGS SUCKS IF YOUR TIRES ARE NOT WIDE ENOUGH
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Originally posted by SprintMax
SPRINT SPRINGS SUCKS IF YOUR TIRES ARE NOT WIDE ENOUGH
I have 225, soon to be 235 would that work?
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yes 18x8 rim with a 235/40/ZR18
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Old 10-20-2002, 03:32 PM
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What does width of the tire have to do with making these springs suck so much?
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Originally posted by Sin
What does width of the tire have to do with making these springs suck so much?
all i know is.. i tried to do the same thing on my 15's i did with my 18's and i almost lost it around a turn..
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Originally posted by SprintMax
all i know is.. i tried to do the same thing on my 15's i did with my 18's and i almost lost it around a turn..

15" = High profile - lots of tire squirm
18" = Low profile - nice and tight

And you, of all people wondered why that happened?
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd


15" = High profile - lots of tire squirm
18" = Low profile - nice and tight

And you, of all people wondered why that happened?
Yah, so then it's not exactly the spring's fault.
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I have sprints/AGXs. I love them. They have NEVER bottomed out on me. Even under VERY hard driving. I think the ride is just fine with the AGXs although I never had the sprints with stock struts. Bang for your buck, handling and looks...you can't beat the sprints
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I don't know aobut sprints but maxspeed <STRONG>SUCK</STRONG>
ride quality = decent
lowness = VERY POOR
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i have 27 000 miles on my car u think i could go wit the sprints and stock struts for a lil while?
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Originally posted by raga55
i have 27 000 miles on my car u think i could go wit the sprints and stock struts for a lil while?
Yes. I had 55k miles when I put mine on, I'm at 65k now and no problems so far.
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