Brake pads
11-26-2002, 12:02 PM
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Brake pads
I'm about to perform a brake job on my 99 maxima SE, and am wondering if anyone knows of the best pads to get a good balance of minimal brake dust, optimum grasp, and MINIMAL squeeling. I've heard Raybestos's quiet stop ceramic pads are good, but have heard that they were nothin but headaches for maximas. Anye feedback?
11-26-2002, 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by nitroz
I have the Qs pads for about 1 year and have had no problems, you do get some dust from them over a longer time but the dust is not as black or thick and is easier to remove from rims than the cheaper pads.
I have the Qs pads for about 1 year and have had no problems, you do get some dust from them over a longer time but the dust is not as black or thick and is easier to remove from rims than the cheaper pads.
where'd you get them from?
11-26-2002, 03:00 PM
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I have tried every brake pad on the market and have them for proof..
EBC green stuff and EBC red stuff are garbage.
Stillen is alright but way to over priced.
nippons are garbage. They do not last.
The best pads you can get on a maxima right now is RAYBESTOS Quiet Stop.
Get them from like pep boys. about 60 bucks but well worth it.
my 2cents.
Trance
EBC green stuff and EBC red stuff are garbage.
Stillen is alright but way to over priced.
nippons are garbage. They do not last.
The best pads you can get on a maxima right now is RAYBESTOS Quiet Stop.
Get them from like pep boys. about 60 bucks but well worth it.
my 2cents.
Trance
11-26-2002, 03:42 PM
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Hmm...no one mentioned Porterfields. The R4S is a really good street pad, IMO. It's carbon kevlar, quiet, excellent grip, but it does dust somewhat. However, I think brake dust should be the least of your concerns because all you need to do is hose down your wheels. The R4S is pretty expensive but you'll get a discount if you call Porterfield and mention the org.
11-26-2002, 10:30 PM
#10
Porterfield R4S are the best pads, bar none, I have used on a Maxima.
Unfortunately they dust like there's no tomorrow.
(I honestly could care less though 
)
Axxis Ultimates are supposed to be just as good or better- the SE-R guys love 'em.
Axxis/Stillen Metal Masters don't dust as much as the Porterfields, but they do squeak sometimes.
If you want less dust, try something other than what's mentioned here, IMHO.
Unfortunately they dust like there's no tomorrow.
(I honestly could care less though )Axxis Ultimates are supposed to be just as good or better- the SE-R guys love 'em.
Axxis/Stillen Metal Masters don't dust as much as the Porterfields, but they do squeak sometimes.
If you want less dust, try something other than what's mentioned here, IMHO.
11-26-2002, 10:56 PM
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Re: Brake pads
Originally posted by J.Daniel
I'm about to perform a brake job on my 99 maxima SE, and am wondering if anyone knows of the best pads to get a good balance of minimal brake dust, optimum grasp, and MINIMAL squeeling. I've heard Raybestos's quiet stop ceramic pads are good, but have heard that they were nothin but headaches for maximas. Anye feedback?
I'm about to perform a brake job on my 99 maxima SE, and am wondering if anyone knows of the best pads to get a good balance of minimal brake dust, optimum grasp, and MINIMAL squeeling. I've heard Raybestos's quiet stop ceramic pads are good, but have heard that they were nothin but headaches for maximas. Anye feedback?
-Sal
11-27-2002, 01:00 AM
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Axxis aren't good for our cars cause they can't handle the load.
If your a normal driver that wants some dust get porterfield.
Performance friction aren't good if you have cross drilled rotors and but then again nothing is good if you have x-drilled.
I still say Raybestos. If you want long pad life, very little to no squeal and get breaking.
I drive like a lunatic so i change pads every 3 months but with raybestos it's now up to 5 to 6 months.
If your a normal driver that wants some dust get porterfield.
Performance friction aren't good if you have cross drilled rotors and but then again nothing is good if you have x-drilled.
I still say Raybestos. If you want long pad life, very little to no squeal and get breaking.
I drive like a lunatic so i change pads every 3 months but with raybestos it's now up to 5 to 6 months.
11-27-2002, 03:40 AM
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Re: Brake pads
Originally posted by J.Daniel
I'm about to perform a brake job on my 99 maxima SE, and am wondering if anyone knows of the best pads to get a good balance of minimal brake dust, optimum grasp, and MINIMAL squeeling. I've heard Raybestos's quiet stop ceramic pads are good, but have heard that they were nothin but headaches for maximas. Anye feedback?
I'm about to perform a brake job on my 99 maxima SE, and am wondering if anyone knows of the best pads to get a good balance of minimal brake dust, optimum grasp, and MINIMAL squeeling. I've heard Raybestos's quiet stop ceramic pads are good, but have heard that they were nothin but headaches for maximas. Anye feedback?
12-11-2002, 04:22 AM
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Re: Re: Brake pads
Originally posted by maximumpower96
PERFORMANCE FRICTION the best ones so far i ever had on my maxima.Sombody mentioned them to me i took his word and went to local autozone and got them for 31.99 plus tax, and man they are good or what.. i mean they really stop the car the brakes are firm no saggy feeling nuffing.. but upto you if you want to spend more money.
-Sal
PERFORMANCE FRICTION the best ones so far i ever had on my maxima.Sombody mentioned them to me i took his word and went to local autozone and got them for 31.99 plus tax, and man they are good or what.. i mean they really stop the car the brakes are firm no saggy feeling nuffing.. but upto you if you want to spend more money.
-Sal
12-11-2002, 08:54 AM
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I have Akebono brake pads right now on brembo blanks for the fronts. And I have Nippon's on rear with stock rear rotors and those are worth ****. Akebono make a lot of the factory OEM pads for the dealers. I think they are decent for just everyday driving but just as good as QS...
Chris
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12-11-2002, 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by NISMOPower
I have Akebono brake pads right now on brembo blanks for the fronts. And I have Nippon's on rear with stock rear rotors and those are worth ****. Akebono make a lot of the factory OEM pads for the dealers. I think they are decent for just everyday driving but just as good as QS...
Chris
I have Akebono brake pads right now on brembo blanks for the fronts. And I have Nippon's on rear with stock rear rotors and those are worth ****. Akebono make a lot of the factory OEM pads for the dealers. I think they are decent for just everyday driving but just as good as QS...
Chris
Also, where can I get these Akebono (doing normal daily driving), and how much are they (front)?
Thanx
Chevonn
12-11-2002, 06:02 PM
#18
Hey don't get crappy brakes for you car at all, It's true the rear does about 15-20 percent of braking which is very little but still, Brakes are your life and i wouldn't do it on my car.
Forget about that nippon and akeboon crap, Get yourself some Raybestos or some stock pads from nissan but i would tell you to get raybestos cause it's worth every penny, alot of people on the org use either raybestos or porterfield.
Make these two be your choice and you will see what we mean by they are the best.
Take it from me, I'm a crazy driveer that changes pads like every 3 months and i have tried EBC red and green crap and porterfield which is ok and i think second best or tied with axxis.
Get raybestos
Forget about that nippon and akeboon crap, Get yourself some Raybestos or some stock pads from nissan but i would tell you to get raybestos cause it's worth every penny, alot of people on the org use either raybestos or porterfield.
Make these two be your choice and you will see what we mean by they are the best.
Take it from me, I'm a crazy driveer that changes pads like every 3 months and i have tried EBC red and green crap and porterfield which is ok and i think second best or tied with axxis.
Get raybestos
12-11-2002, 08:11 PM
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i think KVR carbon fiber pads is the best i have try,wouldn't change for anything,and cost around $60,i drive high speed and stop alots with no problem,have try Raybestos it last but not that good when you do alot of repeat stop,axxis is better but not that good for your stock rotor,just my .02 cent.
12-12-2002, 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by 96_vqmax
i think KVR carbon fiber pads is the best i have try,wouldn't change for anything,and cost around $60,i drive high speed and stop alots with no problem,have try Raybestos it last but not that good when you do alot of repeat stop,axxis is better but not that good for your stock rotor,just my .02 cent.
i think KVR carbon fiber pads is the best i have try,wouldn't change for anything,and cost around $60,i drive high speed and stop alots with no problem,have try Raybestos it last but not that good when you do alot of repeat stop,axxis is better but not that good for your stock rotor,just my .02 cent.
should you run with these? I heard that those raybestos and metal
masters are hard on rotors too. Would brembo blanks be good to use
with any of these pads? Opinions....
12-12-2002, 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by MaxEffect414
Hey don't get crappy brakes for you car at all, It's true the rear does about 15-20 percent of braking which is very little but still, Brakes are your life and i wouldn't do it on my car.
Forget about that nippon and akeboon crap, Get yourself some Raybestos or some stock pads from nissan but i would tell you to get raybestos cause it's worth every penny, alot of people on the org use either raybestos or porterfield.
Make these two be your choice and you will see what we mean by they are the best.
Take it from me, I'm a crazy driveer that changes pads like every 3 months and i have tried EBC red and green crap and porterfield which is ok and i think second best or tied with axxis.
Get raybestos
Hey don't get crappy brakes for you car at all, It's true the rear does about 15-20 percent of braking which is very little but still, Brakes are your life and i wouldn't do it on my car.
Forget about that nippon and akeboon crap, Get yourself some Raybestos or some stock pads from nissan but i would tell you to get raybestos cause it's worth every penny, alot of people on the org use either raybestos or porterfield.
Make these two be your choice and you will see what we mean by they are the best.
Take it from me, I'm a crazy driveer that changes pads like every 3 months and i have tried EBC red and green crap and porterfield which is ok and i think second best or tied with axxis.
Get raybestos
12-12-2002, 10:49 AM
#23
Originally posted by 975spEEd
So carbon fiber pads are hard on rotors? What kind of rotors would
should you run with these? I heard that those raybestos and metal
masters are hard on rotors too. Would brembo blanks be good to use
with any of these pads? Opinions....
So carbon fiber pads are hard on rotors? What kind of rotors would
should you run with these? I heard that those raybestos and metal
masters are hard on rotors too. Would brembo blanks be good to use
with any of these pads? Opinions....
Metallic, semi-metallic & ceramic compound pads are harder on rotors than carbon/kevlars.
KVR & Porterfield are the best manufacturer options for Carbon/Kevlar compound pads.
12-12-2002, 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by KWheelzSB
NO. Carbon/Kevlar pads are actually gentle on your rotors.
Metallic, semi-metallic & ceramic compound pads are harder on rotors than carbon/kevlars.
KVR & Porterfield are the best manufacturer options for Carbon/Kevlar compound pads.
NO. Carbon/Kevlar pads are actually gentle on your rotors.
Metallic, semi-metallic & ceramic compound pads are harder on rotors than carbon/kevlars.
KVR & Porterfield are the best manufacturer options for Carbon/Kevlar compound pads.
12-12-2002, 11:03 AM
#25
Originally posted by Silviagirl79
Yup, I heard "Organic" was actually the OEM material.
Yup, I heard "Organic" was actually the OEM material.
12-12-2002, 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by KWheelzSB
NO. Carbon/Kevlar pads are actually gentle on your rotors.
Metallic, semi-metallic & ceramic compound pads are harder on rotors than carbon/kevlars.
KVR & Porterfield are the best manufacturer options for Carbon/Kevlar compound pads.
NO. Carbon/Kevlar pads are actually gentle on your rotors.
Metallic, semi-metallic & ceramic compound pads are harder on rotors than carbon/kevlars.
KVR & Porterfield are the best manufacturer options for Carbon/Kevlar compound pads.
would be good with these pads, I heard brembo blanks are very good
or could I use decent rotor from an auto parts store? What kind
of improvement can I expect over stock with, say the brembo's and
carbon kevlars? Also do they work well when cold or do they need to
be warmed up a bit first?
12-12-2002, 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by KWheelzSB
NO. Carbon/Kevlar pads are actually gentle on your rotors.
Metallic, semi-metallic & ceramic compound pads are harder on rotors than carbon/kevlars.
KVR & Porterfield are the best manufacturer options for Carbon/Kevlar compound pads.
NO. Carbon/Kevlar pads are actually gentle on your rotors.
Metallic, semi-metallic & ceramic compound pads are harder on rotors than carbon/kevlars.
KVR & Porterfield are the best manufacturer options for Carbon/Kevlar compound pads.
12-12-2002, 11:33 PM
#28
Originally posted by 975spEEd
So you reccomend carbon/kevlar over Metallic ect.. What rotors
would be good with these pads, I heard brembo blanks are very good
or could I use decent rotor from an auto parts store? What kind
of improvement can I expect over stock with, say the brembo's and
carbon kevlars? Also do they work well when cold or do they need to
be warmed up a bit first?
So you reccomend carbon/kevlar over Metallic ect.. What rotors
would be good with these pads, I heard brembo blanks are very good
or could I use decent rotor from an auto parts store? What kind
of improvement can I expect over stock with, say the brembo's and
carbon kevlars? Also do they work well when cold or do they need to
be warmed up a bit first?
12-13-2002, 01:45 AM
#29
Originally posted by 975spEEd
So you reccomend carbon/kevlar over Metallic ect.. What rotors
would be good with these pads, I heard brembo blanks are very good
or could I use decent rotor from an auto parts store? What kind
of improvement can I expect over stock with, say the brembo's and
carbon kevlars? Also do they work well when cold or do they need to
be warmed up a bit first?
So you reccomend carbon/kevlar over Metallic ect.. What rotors
would be good with these pads, I heard brembo blanks are very good
or could I use decent rotor from an auto parts store? What kind
of improvement can I expect over stock with, say the brembo's and
carbon kevlars? Also do they work well when cold or do they need to
be warmed up a bit first?
I chose these pads because I race auto-x and roadcourse events and wanted a predictable pad that would perform well under heavy, repeated braking. If you only drive on the street, you may not need to spend the $ on Porterfields, but if you do, you WILL see an improvement in braking performance.
I haven't noticed any problems with cold stopping power, whatsoever.
The KVR's are a bit less expensive, but a very strong pad, by several .org members' accounts - worth checking into.
12-13-2002, 07:27 AM
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Ok I'm gonna ask a stupid n00b question <ducks>. I've changed my brakes at least 5 times and i have no idea what caliper pins are. Someone said to be sure and check them so since i don't know what they are that could be bad. Are they the pins that go in your brakes to keep them off the rotor when not in use. FYI i have brough the cheap brakes from pepboys and auto-zone and they both dust like hell, squeel like a french ***** and suck like they squeel. In Jan when i get some money i'm doing a full head to toe on my car cause its gonna be about 150K miles so i really wanna get the best of everything. So in a short answer on top of my other question, which are the best brakes? so far i'm hearing raybestos quick stops the most are they pretty much the consensus? Also i'm glad to hear its not just my brakes that whine all the damn time.
12-13-2002, 11:23 AM
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The performance frictions at autozone are excellent value and the stopping power is great additionally they exhibit great dust control nowhere near the oem's I had on my car, you'll be pleasantly surprised, these pads arem my recommendation.
12-13-2002, 01:02 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TonyGotSkilz
[B]Ok I've changed my brakes at least 5 times and i have no idea what caliper pins are. Someone said to be sure and check them so since i don't know what they are that could be bad. Are they the pins that go in your brakes to keep them off the rotor when not in use.
Yes, they are the pins that the cylinder body slides on. When I changed my brakes at 54k the front ones were really worn (actually grooved), this can cause the pads to bind, stick, etc.. I replaced all 4 front caliper pins, the rear were okay. They were $23.00 for a set of 4 at Auto Zone. I used Synthetic High Temp Brake grease to lubricate them. This is something that is easy to overlook and can cause a lot of unexplained intermittent brake problems.
[B]Ok I've changed my brakes at least 5 times and i have no idea what caliper pins are. Someone said to be sure and check them so since i don't know what they are that could be bad. Are they the pins that go in your brakes to keep them off the rotor when not in use.
Yes, they are the pins that the cylinder body slides on. When I changed my brakes at 54k the front ones were really worn (actually grooved), this can cause the pads to bind, stick, etc.. I replaced all 4 front caliper pins, the rear were okay. They were $23.00 for a set of 4 at Auto Zone. I used Synthetic High Temp Brake grease to lubricate them. This is something that is easy to overlook and can cause a lot of unexplained intermittent brake problems.
10-24-2003, 07:51 AM
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Hawk HPS are my new favorite. I've tried, Axxis Metal Masters, EBC Green Stuff, and the Quiet Stops.
The metal masters dusted like crazy! I still have metal masters on my rear wheels and my rear wheels are a brown rust color because of the dust. The EBCs dust a lot also. But they are a great street pad. Very good initial bite because they are kevlar. They don't last very long though. Quiet Stops felt like OEM pads to me. Which may not be a bad thing. My hawk HPS review may be a bit biased. I put in the HPS pads and cross drilled rotors at the same time. But the HPS seem to fade a lot less than the other brands (maybe because of the drilling). The dusting is managable. I can't complain about the dust after looking at my rear wheels. HPS are quiet, as were the EBCs and Quiet Stops. The Metal Masters groan and squeak sometimes. You have many choices, but if I were to do it again, I would get the HPS again. That's my opinion.
Check out:
www.redlinemax.com
That site is run and owned by a fellow org member.
The metal masters dusted like crazy! I still have metal masters on my rear wheels and my rear wheels are a brown rust color because of the dust. The EBCs dust a lot also. But they are a great street pad. Very good initial bite because they are kevlar. They don't last very long though. Quiet Stops felt like OEM pads to me. Which may not be a bad thing. My hawk HPS review may be a bit biased. I put in the HPS pads and cross drilled rotors at the same time. But the HPS seem to fade a lot less than the other brands (maybe because of the drilling). The dusting is managable. I can't complain about the dust after looking at my rear wheels. HPS are quiet, as were the EBCs and Quiet Stops. The Metal Masters groan and squeak sometimes. You have many choices, but if I were to do it again, I would get the HPS again. That's my opinion.
Check out:
www.redlinemax.com
That site is run and owned by a fellow org member.
Originally Posted by J.Daniel
I'm about to perform a brake job on my 99 maxima SE, and am wondering if anyone knows of the best pads to get a good balance of minimal brake dust, optimum grasp, and MINIMAL squeeling. I've heard Raybestos's quiet stop ceramic pads are good, but have heard that they were nothin but headaches for maximas. Anye feedback?
10-24-2003, 01:15 PM
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I just did Hawk HPS ($65) and Brembo blanks ($80) up front 
Found them in the Group Deal Forum. Also, you may want to replace your shims if they're corroded. The new setup has much better stopping power than OEM. Don't forget to bleed your brakes lines at the same time. I replaced the OEM fluid and the fronts at 90K. The brakes pedal now feels nice and solid. Motorvate has some excellent info on doing the brakes and checking the caliber pin: http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/300 Budget at least 4 hours if you plan on doing it yourself.
Found them in the Group Deal Forum. Also, you may want to replace your shims if they're corroded. The new setup has much better stopping power than OEM. Don't forget to bleed your brakes lines at the same time. I replaced the OEM fluid and the fronts at 90K. The brakes pedal now feels nice and solid. Motorvate has some excellent info on doing the brakes and checking the caliber pin: http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/300 Budget at least 4 hours if you plan on doing it yourself.
Originally Posted by TonyGotSkilz
Ok I'm gonna ask a stupid n00b question
<ducks>. I've changed my brakes at least 5 times and i have no idea what caliper pins are. Someone said to be sure and check them so since i don't know what they are that could be bad. Are they the pins that go in your brakes to keep them off the rotor when not in use. FYI i have brough the cheap brakes from pepboys and auto-zone and they both dust like hell, squeel like a french ***** and suck like they squeel. In Jan when i get some money i'm doing a full head to toe on my car cause its gonna be about 150K miles so i really wanna get the best of everything. So in a short answer on top of my other question, which are the best brakes? so far i'm hearing raybestos quick stops the most are they pretty much the consensus? Also i'm glad to hear its not just my brakes that whine all the damn time.
<ducks>. I've changed my brakes at least 5 times and i have no idea what caliper pins are. Someone said to be sure and check them so since i don't know what they are that could be bad. Are they the pins that go in your brakes to keep them off the rotor when not in use. FYI i have brough the cheap brakes from pepboys and auto-zone and they both dust like hell, squeel like a french ***** and suck like they squeel. In Jan when i get some money i'm doing a full head to toe on my car cause its gonna be about 150K miles so i really wanna get the best of everything. So in a short answer on top of my other question, which are the best brakes? so far i'm hearing raybestos quick stops the most are they pretty much the consensus? Also i'm glad to hear its not just my brakes that whine all the damn time.
10-24-2003, 02:19 PM
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see my post for caliper pins.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=258477
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