Vibration when accellerating
12-02-2002, 12:39 AM
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Vibration when accellerating
Drove to Phoenix and back recently -
During the trip back, I noticed my car was vibrating a little when cruising.
When I accellerate (from any speed), the steering wheel shakes violently, and the vibration feels alot worse.
I have a bad CV Joint on the passenger side causing the "click-click-click" when I turn left.
I have brand new, balanced tires as of 3 days ago, and the problem still exists - tried moving front wheels to the back with no difference.
Is it the CV Joint? Or do these symptoms dictate something else?
Thanks,
IanS
During the trip back, I noticed my car was vibrating a little when cruising.
When I accellerate (from any speed), the steering wheel shakes violently, and the vibration feels alot worse.
I have a bad CV Joint on the passenger side causing the "click-click-click" when I turn left.
I have brand new, balanced tires as of 3 days ago, and the problem still exists - tried moving front wheels to the back with no difference.
Is it the CV Joint? Or do these symptoms dictate something else?
Thanks,
IanS
12-03-2002, 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by iansw
er...."been"
heh.
Seriously, could a CV Joint cause this or am I smoking crack?
er...."been"
heh.
Seriously, could a CV Joint cause this or am I smoking crack?
12-21-2002, 07:47 PM
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Dammit! It's still there!
So far I have bought:
4 new tires
2 bent rims fixed
bad CV Joint/axle replaced (done today)
camber bolts (installed today)
alignment (done today)
The vibration is still there! It's not bad until I hit 40, but if I accellerate while over 40mph, the car shakes pretty bad, getting worse and worse the harder I acellerate.
When cruising at any speed, there is no vibration - only when accellerating. - even cruising at 80mph - no vibration.
And here's the strange part - It almost sounds like the vibration is in tune with the sound of my exhaust - or maybe not.
I had a dealership check the engine mounts also, and they said they were fine.
So I've just spent $1100, (tires included) - and it's still happening!
Anyone? Anyone?
4 new tires
2 bent rims fixed
bad CV Joint/axle replaced (done today)
camber bolts (installed today)
alignment (done today)
The vibration is still there! It's not bad until I hit 40, but if I accellerate while over 40mph, the car shakes pretty bad, getting worse and worse the harder I acellerate.
When cruising at any speed, there is no vibration - only when accellerating. - even cruising at 80mph - no vibration.
And here's the strange part - It almost sounds like the vibration is in tune with the sound of my exhaust - or maybe not.
I had a dealership check the engine mounts also, and they said they were fine.
So I've just spent $1100, (tires included) - and it's still happening!
Anyone? Anyone?
12-21-2002, 09:57 PM
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Re: Dammit! It's still there!
i would really look into engine mounts, i had exactly the same symptoms, i changed the front mount and saw huge improvement,
but since the dealership checked it I dont know.
may be the other side axle is bad,
i would also go check the ball joints and the tie rods.
good luck
but since the dealership checked it I dont know.
may be the other side axle is bad,
i would also go check the ball joints and the tie rods.
good luck
12-22-2002, 01:02 AM
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Re: Dammit! It's still there!
Originally posted by iansw
So far I have bought:
4 new tires
2 bent rims fixed
bad CV Joint/axle replaced (done today)
camber bolts (installed today)
alignment (done today)
The vibration is still there! It's not bad until I hit 40, but if I accellerate while over 40mph, the car shakes pretty bad, getting worse and worse the harder I acellerate.
When cruising at any speed, there is no vibration - only when accellerating. - even cruising at 80mph - no vibration.
And here's the strange part - It almost sounds like the vibration is in tune with the sound of my exhaust - or maybe not.
I had a dealership check the engine mounts also, and they said they were fine.
So I've just spent $1100, (tires included) - and it's still happening!
Anyone? Anyone?
So far I have bought:
4 new tires
2 bent rims fixed
bad CV Joint/axle replaced (done today)
camber bolts (installed today)
alignment (done today)
The vibration is still there! It's not bad until I hit 40, but if I accellerate while over 40mph, the car shakes pretty bad, getting worse and worse the harder I acellerate.
When cruising at any speed, there is no vibration - only when accellerating. - even cruising at 80mph - no vibration.
And here's the strange part - It almost sounds like the vibration is in tune with the sound of my exhaust - or maybe not.
I had a dealership check the engine mounts also, and they said they were fine.
So I've just spent $1100, (tires included) - and it's still happening!
Anyone? Anyone?
12-22-2002, 06:28 AM
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Misfire - my A/F maps and Dynos look pretty good. But I'll change my plugs soon anyway - Also, my EGT's are perfect - if I was having a misfire, I think it would feel different.
Automatic Tranny - The shaking isn't that bad, just annoying - I hope to god it's not that.
Other Axle - That's a possibility - I'll look into that, but you think either the guy at the rim shop or the alighnment shop would have noticed.
Motor mount - well, the guys at the dealership were morons, somewhat - they wanted to charge me $650 for an axle (parts only). I'll just have to take a closer look at it when I have time.
Thatnks for the ideas - keep em coming!
IanS
Automatic Tranny - The shaking isn't that bad, just annoying - I hope to god it's not that.
Other Axle - That's a possibility - I'll look into that, but you think either the guy at the rim shop or the alighnment shop would have noticed.
Motor mount - well, the guys at the dealership were morons, somewhat - they wanted to charge me $650 for an axle (parts only). I'll just have to take a closer look at it when I have time.
Thatnks for the ideas - keep em coming!
IanS
12-22-2002, 07:11 AM
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Re: Re: nonono
[QUOTE]Originally posted by I30tMikeD
Bad newbie - BAD!
Originally posted by xclo
noo.. you just need a tire realignment! that's cheap to fix
go back and read the thread again.
noo.. you just need a tire realignment! that's cheap to fix
go back and read the thread again.
Bad newbie - BAD!
12-22-2002, 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by cmoe211
NO input,but a question...should i go with injen or pr?
NO input,but a question...should i go with injen or pr?
Please send me PM's if you want to chat about it, but don't post here - I need answers to my problem!
Now - anyone have any useful answers or sugesstions?
12-22-2002, 11:28 PM
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and then i think i am the only one plagued by weird problems.
same thing here, only mine is not violent and the wheel is rock solid (it should be.. after countless rebalances and allignments) yet it vibrates
engine mounts were changed a month ago, tranny is smooth as silk. i am changing some parts tomorrow and will try to plead with the mechanic to look at the bearings so i wont have to waste another day for them too. if it still vibrates i'll trash it in the shop and keep it there till they fix it. whatever it is. i've had this since i had the car so most likely i inherited whatever the previous owner ditched. oh and mine vibrates motly at 60-100mph when the accelerator is in 1/3 or so. flooring it seems to smoothen it out
which might lead to something with the suspension straining under the pressure. go figure.
same thing here, only mine is not violent and the wheel is rock solid (it should be.. after countless rebalances and allignments) yet it vibrates
engine mounts were changed a month ago, tranny is smooth as silk. i am changing some parts tomorrow and will try to plead with the mechanic to look at the bearings so i wont have to waste another day for them too. if it still vibrates i'll trash it in the shop and keep it there till they fix it. whatever it is. i've had this since i had the car so most likely i inherited whatever the previous owner ditched. oh and mine vibrates motly at 60-100mph when the accelerator is in 1/3 or so. flooring it seems to smoothen it out
which might lead to something with the suspension straining under the pressure. go figure.
12-23-2002, 08:22 AM
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Hey Ian,
Since you mentioned that you've got 4 new tires I believe its the balancing on the wheels.
When I got my new rims and tires back in April I got the same symptoms when I hit 70km/hr on the hwy. My steering wheel shuddered like crazy. When I took my car back to the tire shop they rebalanced the fronts and it was fine after that. I'd check that out.
Since you mentioned that you've got 4 new tires I believe its the balancing on the wheels.
When I got my new rims and tires back in April I got the same symptoms when I hit 70km/hr on the hwy. My steering wheel shuddered like crazy. When I took my car back to the tire shop they rebalanced the fronts and it was fine after that. I'd check that out.
12-23-2002, 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by BlackCat
Hey Ian,
Since you mentioned that you've got 4 new tires I believe its the balancing on the wheels.
When I got my new rims and tires back in April I got the same symptoms when I hit 70km/hr on the hwy. My steering wheel shuddered like crazy. When I took my car back to the tire shop they rebalanced the fronts and it was fine after that. I'd check that out.
Hey Ian,
Since you mentioned that you've got 4 new tires I believe its the balancing on the wheels.
When I got my new rims and tires back in April I got the same symptoms when I hit 70km/hr on the hwy. My steering wheel shuddered like crazy. When I took my car back to the tire shop they rebalanced the fronts and it was fine after that. I'd check that out.
So the balance idea seems off - I've also had them rebalanced 3 times since I got the new rubber on with no improvement.
I do know part of it is that my camber was off and now my tires are lightly worn on the inside. Now that I have the camber fixed, it's causing vibrations.
But this vibration is totally seperate from that.
I'm thinking now it's one of 3 things:
1) Motor Mount
2) SC
3) Tranny <----------
How are you liking that 3.33" Pulley?
IanS
12-23-2002, 09:26 AM
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You said that it almost vibrates to the tune of your exhaust, why not check the exhaust, maybe it is rubbing or vibrating under acceleration. Maybe one of the hangers of flanges broke. My $0.02.
12-23-2002, 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by SonicDust187
You said that it almost vibrates to the tune of your exhaust, why not check the exhaust, maybe it is rubbing or vibrating under acceleration. Maybe one of the hangers of flanges broke. My $0.02.
You said that it almost vibrates to the tune of your exhaust, why not check the exhaust, maybe it is rubbing or vibrating under acceleration. Maybe one of the hangers of flanges broke. My $0.02.
It shakes the steering wheel badly - i doubt an exhaust hangar could do that.
The more I think about it, the more I think it's my tranny about to go.
IanS
12-23-2002, 10:14 AM
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I've never heard of that problem = a bad tranny though. But you could be the first. Level okay and the fluid looks okay? You "might" want to take a sample and send it to Blackstone labs and see what they have to say about it.
Originally posted by iansw
It's definately coming from the engine bay/front wheels, not under the car.
It shakes the steering wheel badly - i doubt an exhaust hangar could do that.
The more I think about it, the more I think it's my tranny about to go.
IanS
It's definately coming from the engine bay/front wheels, not under the car.
It shakes the steering wheel badly - i doubt an exhaust hangar could do that.
The more I think about it, the more I think it's my tranny about to go.
IanS
12-23-2002, 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
I've never heard of that problem = a bad tranny though. But you could be the first. Level okay and the fluid looks okay? You "might" want to take a sample and send it to Blackstone labs and see what they have to say about it.
I've never heard of that problem = a bad tranny though. But you could be the first. Level okay and the fluid looks okay? You "might" want to take a sample and send it to Blackstone labs and see what they have to say about it.
Maybe you could diagnose it....
IanS
12-23-2002, 10:20 AM
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Sure. Pm me your numbers and we can try to arrage something. I'm pretty busy until after x-mass. Maybe this Fri after I get done coaching b-ball. It's at Meany middle school(near 23rd and Madison). Maybe we can meet real quick or have a short meet w/ Matt?
Originally posted by iansw
Hey Jeff, you willing sometime later this week to take a quick ride with me (with you driving, so you can feel it more)?
Maybe you could diagnose it....
IanS
Hey Jeff, you willing sometime later this week to take a quick ride with me (with you driving, so you can feel it more)?
Maybe you could diagnose it....
IanS
12-24-2002, 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by xclo
lol yea i'm newb at this sorry.. but my wobbling and shaking DID stop when i got my tires aligned
lol yea i'm newb at this sorry.. but my wobbling and shaking DID stop when i got my tires aligned
12-24-2002, 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by Aznwhitemax
hmmm my steering wheel and my dashboard(i think) starts vibrating after i hit 70 could it b the saem problem?
hmmm my steering wheel and my dashboard(i think) starts vibrating after i hit 70 could it b the saem problem?
Why is it you people have a problem grasping this concept?
Damned newbies.
12-25-2002, 12:56 AM
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i got this prob too after i put in my motor mounts, then we looked at the passenger side axle and the 3 bolts for the intermediate shaft was loose. tightened those and MOST of the vibration went away.
12-25-2002, 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
i got this prob too after i put in my motor mounts, then we looked at the passenger side axle and the 3 bolts for the intermediate shaft was loose. tightened those and MOST of the vibration went away.
i got this prob too after i put in my motor mounts, then we looked at the passenger side axle and the 3 bolts for the intermediate shaft was loose. tightened those and MOST of the vibration went away.
Anyway, like I said, it's fixed already.
12-25-2002, 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by iansw
Problem fixed!
Solution: Tranny Fluid was 1/2 Quart LOW!!!!!
Took her for a test drive across I-90 tonight at blazing accelleration. No shake whatsoever!
Problem fixed!
Solution: Tranny Fluid was 1/2 Quart LOW!!!!!
Took her for a test drive across I-90 tonight at blazing accelleration. No shake whatsoever!
I hope you changed the tranny fluid completely because all the grinding experienced probably left metal shards and deposits in the fluid. Im glad you solved it.
Happy holidays
12-25-2002, 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by maxNYC
Good on you
I hope you changed the tranny fluid completely because all the grinding experienced probably left metal shards and deposits in the fluid. Im glad you solved it.
Happy holidays
Good on you
I hope you changed the tranny fluid completely because all the grinding experienced probably left metal shards and deposits in the fluid. Im glad you solved it.
Happy holidays
12-25-2002, 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by iansw
Problem fixed!
Solution: Tranny Fluid was 1/2 Quart LOW!!!!!
Took her for a test drive across I-90 tonight at blazing accelleration. No shake whatsoever!
Problem fixed!
Solution: Tranny Fluid was 1/2 Quart LOW!!!!!
Took her for a test drive across I-90 tonight at blazing accelleration. No shake whatsoever!
12-26-2002, 12:16 PM
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Went for another drive this morning, and it's back!
Damn.
Although I did notice it only happens when boosting - the more I boost, the worse it is - so I expect it's gone something to do with the SC. I checked it out and the belts and pulleys look great, and the thing is mounted to the engine so tight that when I pull my hardest on it, it doesn't budge.
*@#!*$!!
96_vqmax - Can you link me to that thread about someone having the vibration with the SC? I can't find it.
Thanks,
IanS
Damn.
Although I did notice it only happens when boosting - the more I boost, the worse it is - so I expect it's gone something to do with the SC. I checked it out and the belts and pulleys look great, and the thing is mounted to the engine so tight that when I pull my hardest on it, it doesn't budge.
*@#!*$!!
96_vqmax - Can you link me to that thread about someone having the vibration with the SC? I can't find it.
Thanks,
IanS