Koni makes adjustable shocks for the Max. If your that serious about handling you may need to invest in some JIC coilovers.

 

I can see why people have been picking on Craigy.

Craig, where are you getting your facts from?????

(Especially the 95-96 vs. 97-99 headlight deal)

 

Spoiler was added for free as part of the deal.

 

And what is that guy talking about that it costs more money to mod an SE? It costs the same. Maybe you mean OEM parts but I don't think there would be much of a difference because it's an SE. The only difference of a stock se and a stock gxe is the suspension, wheels, and some inside features that everyone likes if they have them.

 

And what is that guy talking about that it costs more money to mod an SE? It costs the same. Maybe you mean OEM parts but I don't think there would be much of a difference because it's an SE. The only difference of a stock se and a stock gxe is the suspension, wheels, and some interior features that everyone likes if they have them.

 

it doesn't cost more to mod an SE.. its a waste of money to spend extra for an SE and then put the same mods on a GXE..

lets just say..

97 SE - $10,000 - alloy wheels, sport suspension, bose, (just to name a few)
97 GXE - $7,000

both guys buy:

Sound System - $600
Bigger Wheels - $2500
Springs and Struts - $600
Sway Bar and Strut Bars - $400
Total - $4100

Total Spent

97 SE - $14,100
97 GXE - $11,100

if you think about it.. also.. if you bought a 97 GXE

97 SE - $10,000
97 GXE w/ Supercharger - $10300

now you tell me.. its like i said.. if you are going to mod the car.. buy a GXE.. if you are leaving it stock.. get an SE

think of some of the cars on this forum modded to ****.. MardigrasMax, Jay25, delio, sx7r.. myself.. they are all GXE.. makes you wonder what we were thinkign

 

GXE's definitely get the thumbsup from me - only thing is the speed limiter - but just make sure u get the C&C package ; )

 

ALL 5spd GXE's have limiters

it its not like we havn't gotten around it

 

Add me to that list.

 

hey welcome LOST? hey if u wanna by a 5 speed watch out for the trans on the some peeps on the org. had differential problems (like me!!) but other then that its great!!i just casue wait to do my trans and put my ACT Clutch in . I had my dads (^ Hyundai Accent 5 speed) and blew the trans at 30,000 (1,100 to fix)lol the only reason why it blew was becasue i was still in high skool and me and my boy with a 88 camaro would see who could do the biggest smoke show.peeps at my skool was amzamed want a lil accent did lol. anyways, so u'll love the max make sure u get a 5 speed. don't get me wrong i love hondz my bro has one a 92 accord with a custom paint job dropped and its look nice. but the max is better and his 21 and i got a better car then him im 18

jeff

 

That is correct. The guy at the dealership said you want wheels, Gold package, spoiler I got some plans for this sucker leave it with the hubcaps looks beautful. Waste of money to pay for stock suspension and the price tag on stock wheels is not even funny. The rev limiter I dont care much for I still have not cut my wire, I do have the switch but have not installed it on the car. I raced many cars and rarely go past 120MPH and that includes Mustang GT and Cobra and so on. GXE good bargain for the money.

 

:attention


me too

 

the only thing i wish the gxe came with is the factory fogs.

i can even live w/out the sunroof

 

Deez,

The 95-96 headlights are glass. 97-99 are plastic. The 95-96 are obviously better made being that glass is better then plastic. I never said they were prettier, but I happen to like the look of the 95-96. The black of my car reflects inside of it and it looks pretty neat.

What else do you have beef with??

 

Side by side, you're telling me that there's no such thing as "fog" on the 95-96 headlights?

 

I just bought a 99 SE 5-spd with 33k miles. I didn't get a great deal on it, but it was the price most were going for with 15k more miles =/. Coming from a 93 SE auto is night and day. I think my 93 feels more like a sports car than my 99, but consdering I paid 19k for the 93 brand new, 99 just blows it away, plus the 99 is soooooo friggin nice, I love it!....even after driving faster cars that I "wanted". It's always nice to have a maxima. Other cars I checked in the market were preludes, gsr's, n/a supras, and 240's, but I think I made the best choice. =)

 

Yea, you're right. I am not a fan of the 4th gen rear beam setup.
After owning a 94 G20 and a 92 Civic, I could feel the difference while cornering in the max. Also, the maxima is quite larger than my older cars which isn't too good for cornering. After I installed the proper suspension and handling mods, my car feels more stable then my prior cars. To start off I installed a -front strut bar- and an -ADDCO rear sway bar-. After this I decided on lowering it with -Maxspeed springs- and used -KYB/AGX adjustable shocks/struts- and -Cattman dustboots/shortened bumpstops-. The ride is amazing. Last weekend I rode in my friends unmodded 97 SE, and the difference is like night and day. Cornering is tight and precise with almost no body roll. All around the car feels very tight. Although the max's suspension is a small drawback it can be easily remedied with proper mods!

edit...

Here are some prices for my suspension setup:
$115 for the RSB
$40 for the FSTB
$110 for the Maxspeeds
$340 for the AGX/KYB
$70 for the bumpstops/dustboots
TOTAL: $675 for a fairly complete suspension setup!

 

97-99's are NOT 200lb heavier than the 95-96's.

Maybe TWENTY pounds heavier and some change. Yes, the 97-99's are slightly heavier, but it's nowhere even close to 200lb's.

It is the 5th Gen's (00-03) that are in general, about 200lb heavier than the 4th Gen's (95-99)

I think SprintMax weighed his 97 GXE at the track and it was 28xx lb. With the above incorrect assumption, that would make a 95-96 Maxima 26xx lb, which is lighter than most Honda Civic's!

umm....yea.

 

The rear beam axle is not bad as you guys think. Both tires stay planted to the road in the rear. The problem is the front suspension. It has so much push in stock form its scary. All I did was add wider/stickier tires and that solved my push problem. I do have a drop kit to be installed in the Spring 03 to get more out of my suspension.

 

the suspension is a problem, but it also depends on how crazy you wanna get... with the stillen RSB (which in my opinion is better then the addco one) and the stillen FSTB and stock suspension the car handles decently when you push it hard. The rear beam isnt the greatest, nor is it the worst... its just different.

Parting shot about the lights:
if the 95/96 are much better then the 97/99 how come 97/99 owners dont switch to 95/96.

 

and if that was the case in the weight dept. i'd be running close to a 14.7-14.8 stock.

 

Rear Beam axle will handle better around corners on FLAT ROADS than an IRS car will.. the rear beam acts as a huge sway bar and as deezo says.. keeps the rear planted..

i won't tell you how all the 4th Gen's out handled all the 3rd Gen's coming back from Liberty State Park on Route 15(the Merrit - exteremly windy road) over and over again..

oh ****.. i just did..

when my cousin (GS 400 lowered 1 inch), my friend Andrew (MKIV VW GTI VR6 lowered 1.5 inches), and my friend Jason (Jetta 2.0 lowered 1 inch) all go out.. me and my friend Jason out corner them every time.. time and time again.. and we both have rear beams..

 

Yea, it's probably true that a "well-made" rear beam axel will handle better around corners than IRS (unless taking a sharp turn at insane speeds where one of the back wheels pop up!!! -never happened to me but i remember reading that it happened to someone on the org).

Well my only problem is that in "stock" form, the Maxima isn't the best handler (nor the worst). IMO, the rear suspension could've been better. Even as a more solid rear beam. There is obviously a noticeable amount of flex there, so people go out and get a RSB as one of their 1st mods. If the maxima came from the factory with the same cornering I get with a FSTB and a RSB, I would have no beef. Again it's no big deal, just go out and spend ~$160-$200 for a RSTB + RSB and you're there!!

 

This will happen on IRS also. It would happen to VW Golf and Jetta in the past while doing the slalom test. The inner wheel would come right off the ground which left the car riding on 3 wheels.

 

Get a 97SE 5spd. They look hotter and more refined. Maxima is the only car that you can beat the sh*t out of and not worry about anything breaking. Like 100shot of nos, cruising at 130 on ocean pkwy(u know who u are) weekly drag racing and stock clutch at 100K miles(the blue) 9psi of boost on stock internals etc. What else???

 

 

Not the one who flipped over doing 130.

 

were the 3rd gens on stock suspension? and I am sure the 4th gens were on coilovers with all the suspension goodies, also probably some VG's that didnt have the power to corner.

Damn you sprite! apples to apples.

 

yes donald.. since you were there

actually.. deezo was on stock suspension.. i had springs and struts.. dmbmaxima was on eibachs and stock struts... and 1 of the 3rd gens' was lowered.. didn't your crystal ball tell you all that Donald?

 

Come on down to Cali sprint, I will give you a ride in the twisties. You will be like

 

how about no

 

Dont worry, I got your back!