Cold Air vs Frankencar
#1
Cold Air vs Frankencar
I just wanted to see what opinions are with the Cold air intakes out there and say like Frankencar and Stillen pop charger. I just put in the Frankencar and I love it. I showed a friend the install, and he said I should have gone with the cold air. I told him that the cold air hurts the top end of the max, and the frankencar is one of the best intakes on the market for the max. he just said he dosent see how the car would get hurt top end, and that I have my stories all wrong. I do notice that after I took out the plastic underbody by the clutch, now it is all open. So I know air is getting into the engine. What I want to know is, is the cold air better for the Max, or should I just keep the Frankencar. Please help, I want to shut him up. He gets on my nerves about cars, he thinks he is the car god. Thanks
#2
your friend is stupid
, your right, frankencar is prolly the best intake out there right now, and will maximize the intake's potential basically to the point where if you could get better flow it wouldn't do much more, i know people who have dyno'd their frankencar to 11-14 + horsepower
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#4
Re: Cold Air vs Frankencar
Originally posted by DUNKEE
I just wanted to see what opinions are with the Cold air intakes out there and say like Frankencar and Stillen pop charger. I just put in the Frankencar and I love it. I showed a friend the install, and he said I should have gone with the cold air. I told him that the cold air hurts the top end of the max, and the frankencar is one of the best intakes on the market for the max. he just said he dosent see how the car would get hurt top end, and that I have my stories all wrong. I do notice that after I took out the plastic underbody by the clutch, now it is all open. So I know air is getting into the engine. What I want to know is, is the cold air better for the Max, or should I just keep the Frankencar. Please help, I want to shut him up. He gets on my nerves about cars, he thinks he is the car god. Thanks
I just wanted to see what opinions are with the Cold air intakes out there and say like Frankencar and Stillen pop charger. I just put in the Frankencar and I love it. I showed a friend the install, and he said I should have gone with the cold air. I told him that the cold air hurts the top end of the max, and the frankencar is one of the best intakes on the market for the max. he just said he dosent see how the car would get hurt top end, and that I have my stories all wrong. I do notice that after I took out the plastic underbody by the clutch, now it is all open. So I know air is getting into the engine. What I want to know is, is the cold air better for the Max, or should I just keep the Frankencar. Please help, I want to shut him up. He gets on my nerves about cars, he thinks he is the car god. Thanks
Cold air allows you engine to produce more power throughout the powerband because its a short intake. The long and twisted CAI's may cause the steep drop in power at high RPM's due to the pipe restrictions (bends and overall length).
#5
i def will be buying a frankencar intake soon and obviously the good thigns that have been said about it, will make me want to buy it even more and soon with the intake and midpipe combo
thanks guy, and other things u can say here would be useful in my decision...
tino
thanks guy, and other things u can say here would be useful in my decision...
tino
#6
Tell your friend to keep smoking the crack pipe, cuz he has no idea what he's talking about! LOL
I haven't heard a bad think about Frankencar, I think they're intakes would be your best bet if you want HAI (or upper intake) - the upper intake seems pretty common for those who just want the "asthma relief" that the stock VQ airbox provides...I have the Place Racing CAI, where the filter is located in the fender well...only differences are that the frankencar takes air from within the engine, which will be hotter than the air inside the fenderwell (which makes for a pretty good airbox IMO)...Deezo is right when he says that colder air is better for your engine... Although, I'm not quite sure about the 11-14hp gain from the frankencar intake on some maximas though, there's really no accurate way of telling what gains you will get from just an intake on the dyno...after all, when I dyno'd my car last, on the first few runs, I shot up by 10hp at the wheels, and topped out at 181.6hp (from a 156.0 stock hp dyno)...
I haven't heard a bad think about Frankencar, I think they're intakes would be your best bet if you want HAI (or upper intake) - the upper intake seems pretty common for those who just want the "asthma relief" that the stock VQ airbox provides...I have the Place Racing CAI, where the filter is located in the fender well...only differences are that the frankencar takes air from within the engine, which will be hotter than the air inside the fenderwell (which makes for a pretty good airbox IMO)...Deezo is right when he says that colder air is better for your engine... Although, I'm not quite sure about the 11-14hp gain from the frankencar intake on some maximas though, there's really no accurate way of telling what gains you will get from just an intake on the dyno...after all, when I dyno'd my car last, on the first few runs, I shot up by 10hp at the wheels, and topped out at 181.6hp (from a 156.0 stock hp dyno)...
#7
Originally posted by TheSoundSoldier
Tell your friend to keep smoking the crack pipe, cuz he has no idea what he's talking about! LOL
I haven't heard a bad think about Frankencar, I think they're intakes would be your best bet if you want HAI (or upper intake) - the upper intake seems pretty common for those who just want the "asthma relief" that the stock VQ airbox provides...I have the Place Racing CAI, where the filter is located in the fender well...only differences are that the frankencar takes air from within the engine, which will be hotter than the air inside the fenderwell (which makes for a pretty good airbox IMO)...Deezo is right when he says that colder air is better for your engine... Although, I'm not quite sure about the 11-14hp gain from the frankencar intake on some maximas though, there's really no accurate way of telling what gains you will get from just an intake on the dyno...after all, when I dyno'd my car last, on the first few runs, I shot up by 10hp at the wheels, and topped out at 181.6hp (from a 156.0 stock hp dyno)...
Tell your friend to keep smoking the crack pipe, cuz he has no idea what he's talking about! LOL
I haven't heard a bad think about Frankencar, I think they're intakes would be your best bet if you want HAI (or upper intake) - the upper intake seems pretty common for those who just want the "asthma relief" that the stock VQ airbox provides...I have the Place Racing CAI, where the filter is located in the fender well...only differences are that the frankencar takes air from within the engine, which will be hotter than the air inside the fenderwell (which makes for a pretty good airbox IMO)...Deezo is right when he says that colder air is better for your engine... Although, I'm not quite sure about the 11-14hp gain from the frankencar intake on some maximas though, there's really no accurate way of telling what gains you will get from just an intake on the dyno...after all, when I dyno'd my car last, on the first few runs, I shot up by 10hp at the wheels, and topped out at 181.6hp (from a 156.0 stock hp dyno)...
#10
I have a pop-charger now, and I was going to buy one of those cold air-intakes on ebay for like 60-70 dollars. You get the shorty piece and cold-air part, instead just paying $50 for shorty part from Frankencar. That was I can swtich back and forth and see which one is better.
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#11
Originally posted by spanishrice
I have a pop-charger now, and I was going to buy one of those cold air-intakes on ebay for like 60-70 dollars. You get the shorty piece and cold-air part, instead just paying $50 for shorty part from Frankencar. That was I can swtich back and forth and see which one is better.
I have a pop-charger now, and I was going to buy one of those cold air-intakes on ebay for like 60-70 dollars. You get the shorty piece and cold-air part, instead just paying $50 for shorty part from Frankencar. That was I can swtich back and forth and see which one is better.
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I have a short ram now but after doing some experiments with a temperature probe in the intake I see underhood temps do not quickly drop when you start moving like many members of this board think they do. I plan to do a intake temperature test on the CAI after I install it and compare it to the short ram temps. If the CAI temps are close to the outside temps like I suspect they will be, then the CAI will have a 30-40 deg. advantage over the HAI for the first minute or two after a short stop.
Speedtrip did a head to head dyno Hybrid vs CAI, I wish I coud see a head to head dyno with the stock manifold but until then I will use this one for refrence. The numbers where pretty much the same up to about 5700 RPM then the hybrid began to show a HP advantage of ~5-9. But if you don't have a MEVI your shift point is only a couple hundred RPMs past 5700. In the real world the CAIs temp advantage of 30-40 deg is worth about 6-8 HP over the numbers put down on the dyno
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#14
Originally posted by spanishrice
I think all the cold-air intakes on ebay are like the place racing one unless you can shwo me differently.
I think all the cold-air intakes on ebay are like the place racing one unless you can shwo me differently.
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Re: Question for seller -- Item #2402297389
no cutting are require it's under the hood
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> Who makes this intake? Does it require cutting a hole in the fender or is
it the under hood style?
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no cutting are require it's under the hood
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Question for seller -- Item #2402297389
> Who makes this intake? Does it require cutting a hole in the fender or is
it the under hood style?
>
> Thanks, Jim
> --------------------
>
>
> Question from: jimshep
> Title of item: 95 96-99 Nissan Maxima Cold Air Intake Kit
> Seller: xoxoparts
> Starts: Feb-02-03 17:40:36 PST
> Ends: Feb-07-03 17:40:36 PST
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#15
Im also still debating on witch intake to buy, for now i have a getto pop charger put on . I think the cold air intake is garbage , im thinking of getting the frankencar intake soon. And people say that hot air is bad but sense so much air is going in i dont think it matters, as for cold air the piping is to wavey and there is also the risk of taking in water.
#19
I heard that the Apexi Filter also adds like 4hp over the K&N, does anyone know about this gain? Thanks for all the replys, I seen ton of gains over the stock intake. My next mod is hopefully going to be the stillen or cattman ypipe. I need to slam the max. I cant get lucky enough to race some peeps to show em whats up. Thanks again.
#20
Originally posted by DUNKEE
I heard that the Apexi Filter also adds like 4hp over the K&N, does anyone know about this gain? Thanks for all the replys, I seen ton of gains over the stock intake. My next mod is hopefully going to be the stillen or cattman ypipe. I need to slam the max. I cant get lucky enough to race some peeps to show em whats up. Thanks again.
I heard that the Apexi Filter also adds like 4hp over the K&N, does anyone know about this gain? Thanks for all the replys, I seen ton of gains over the stock intake. My next mod is hopefully going to be the stillen or cattman ypipe. I need to slam the max. I cant get lucky enough to race some peeps to show em whats up. Thanks again.
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