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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 03:03 PM
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im lookin at getting an intake, i hear that the frankencar intake is pretty good. i see that with that one i also get the midpipe. is the midpipe good to have too. i seen that some of you guys just put in the cone filter with out putting in the midpipe. so what is the diff in performance is the extra cash for the midpipe worth it.
i drive a 96 automatic max.
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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Re: intake??

Originally posted by genaro
im lookin at getting an intake, i hear that the frankencar intake is pretty good. i see that with that one i also get the midpipe. is the midpipe good to have too. i seen that some of you guys just put in the cone filter with out putting in the midpipe. so what is the diff in performance is the extra cash for the midpipe worth it.
i drive a 96 automatic max.
Never seen a dyno with and without the midpipe but I have had both. No, it's not a big HP difference with a midpipe. It may feel like you got a little low end power back and that the trottle seems a little bit more responsive. But that is just speculative.
It mainly just looks better and sounds a little better.

On a side note, I recomend the apex-i filter if you can afford it.
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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Re: intake??

Originally posted by genaro
im lookin at getting an intake, i hear that the frankencar intake is pretty good. i see that with that one i also get the midpipe. is the midpipe good to have too. i seen that some of you guys just put in the cone filter with out putting in the midpipe. so what is the diff in performance is the extra cash for the midpipe worth it.
i drive a 96 automatic max.
If you want to save money,search you can build your own midpipe for $15.00.Since your are auto,I think the mid help a little low end power.That's what everyone else said.
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 08:22 AM
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Re: Re: intake??

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If you want to save money,search you can build your own midpipe for $15.00.Since your are auto,I think the mid help a little low end power.That's what everyone else said.
How can you build one for $15? What is the real restriction in the stock system, the pre-cats?
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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I have a frankencar midpipe and jwt pop charger intake for sale. the price new for both of these is about $170. i'm selling mine used in very good condition for $125 shipped. if interested, email me.
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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Id suggest a injen cai. i had one on my 97gle. i couldnt have been happier with it and now i have one on my 99 and it performs just as well and not to mention it sounds 10 times better then ne other intake ive heard. ive gotten many compliments on my cai. people that usually knock injen cai's usually have never seen or heard one or have 5th gens. frankencar is better on 5th gen then 4th.
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by slammed'99
Id suggest a injen cai. i had one on my 97gle. i couldnt have been happier with it and now i have one on my 99 and it performs just as well and not to mention it sounds 10 times better then ne other intake ive heard. ive gotten many compliments on my cai. people that usually knock injen cai's usually have never seen or heard one or have 5th gens. frankencar is better on 5th gen then 4th.
Injen is really expensive... i have a regular JWT pop charger on by itself right now.. i wanna add midpipe... was thinkin' gettin' a new popcharger.. stillen or JWT again.. since the one on the car is about 10,000 + miles... what do you think i should do?

don't got a lot of cash either... :-)

thanx!
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 07:22 PM
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the Mid Pipe is definetly worth it, Franken Car Adds 10-15 hp Prooven, Such a cheap price for so cheap, Im gonna order mines today hopefully. The Filter by it self only adds 2-5 hp, Im aslo looking for a bigger TB, Ours is very restricting, Any one know where I can get one for Cheap???
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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Re: OMG

Originally posted by AssyrianRacer
the Mid Pipe is definetly worth it, Franken Car Adds 10-15 hp Prooven, Such a cheap price for so cheap, Im gonna order mines today hopefully. The Filter by it self only adds 2-5 hp, Im aslo looking for a bigger TB, Ours is very restricting, Any one know where I can get one for Cheap???
Please stop posting things that you pull out of your a$$. you claim a filter gives you 3 hp and the whole frankencar gives you 15hp. So you are going to try and tell me that a midpipe will yield 12hp. So according to you a midpipe gains are almost the same a Y-pipe.

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Please stop posting things that you pull out of your a$$. you claim a filter gives you 3 hp and the whole frankencar gives you 15hp. So you are going to try and tell me that a midpipe will yield 12hp. So according to you a midpipe gains are almost the same a Y-pipe.

Old Feb 25, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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Re: Re: Re: intake??

Originally posted by jmichnya

How can you build one for $15? What is the real restriction in the stock system, the pre-cats?
I am talking about midpipe(as the pipe between the MAF and intake manifold)not the y pipe the pre-cats you talking about.
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 09:11 PM
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Re: OMG

Originally posted by AssyrianRacer
the Mid Pipe is definetly worth it, Franken Car Adds 10-15 hp Prooven, Such a cheap price for so cheap, Im gonna order mines today hopefully. The Filter by it self only adds 2-5 hp, Im aslo looking for a bigger TB, Ours is very restricting, Any one know where I can get one for Cheap???
Sorry, you aren't gunna get 15hp from an intake.. however I do suggest you check ebay for an electric supercharger, that'll definatly get you those 15 horses.

To answer genaro's question, the midpipe, as someone already mentioned supposedly helps to get some of the low end back.. it also makes for a nice shiny addition under the hood. I personally have the Injen and im happy with it, it's pretty expensive compared to the others available, but it looks d4mn good.
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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Re: Re: OMG

Originally posted by I30tMikeD


Please stop posting things that you pull out of your a$$. you claim a filter gives you 3 hp and the whole frankencar gives you 15hp. So you are going to try and tell me that a midpipe will yield 12hp. So according to you a midpipe gains are almost the same a Y-pipe.


Old Feb 25, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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Build your own midppipe for $15.00

Check out this site click here ,and enjoy!
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by slammed'99
Id suggest a injen cai. i had one on my 97gle. i couldnt have been happier with it and now i have one on my 99 and it performs just as well and not to mention it sounds 10 times better then ne other intake ive heard. ive gotten many compliments on my cai. people that usually knock injen cai's usually have never seen or heard one or have 5th gens. frankencar is better on 5th gen then 4th.
have you heard the frankencar/jwt combo before? i'm trying to decide if i should keep my midpipe/jwt or sell it and get an injen. i have a 97 gle also, let me know. thanks.
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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Re: intake??

Originally posted by genaro
im lookin at getting an intake, i hear that the frankencar intake is pretty good. i see that with that one i also get the midpipe. is the midpipe good to have too. i seen that some of you guys just put in the cone filter with out putting in the midpipe. so what is the diff in performance is the extra cash for the midpipe worth it.
i drive a 96 automatic max.
stock midpipe is not smooth enough which restrict air flows, gettin a franken or injen midpipe or CAI will help u have better air flow... or u can jus go with K&N popcharger with intake adapter, leave ur stock air ram to get a bit of cold air from the front...

if ur lookin for low end gain get CAI (cold air intake) system, if ur lookin for high end gain get popchargers or short ram... lastly, use K&N filter for any kind of setup...
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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Re: Re: intake??

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stock midpipe is not smooth enough which restrict air flows, gettin a franken or injen midpipe or CAI will help u have better air flow... or u can jus go with K&N popcharger with intake adapter, leave ur stock air ram to get a bit of cold air from the front...

if ur lookin for low end gain get CAI (cold air intake) system, if ur lookin for high end gain get popchargers or short ram... lastly, use K&N filter for any kind of setup...
Man...save money, i made my own intake as the commun webpage instructions says(you can search for that page) and i took me 15 box all, of course i use a APC cone filter(man im broke). I can say my car loud is exactly the same from frankencar and the HP is the same thing...
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 06:29 AM
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Re: Re: Re: intake??

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Man...save money, i made my own intake as the commun webpage instructions says(you can search for that page) and i took me 15 box all, of course i use a APC cone filter(man im broke). I can say my car loud is exactly the same from frankencar and the HP is the same thing...
I had a custom mid-pipe and generic filter for a long time. I recently switched to an apexi filer. Trust me when I say that having a filter with some sort of velocity stack to reduce air turbulance makes a fairly big difference. The mid-pipe is fine, but a regular cone filter is not the same as a stillen or apexi which have a built in funnel to smooth out the air as it enters the TB. My acceleration is much smoother at WOT.
Old Feb 28, 2003 | 10:00 PM
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1. what is a low end back power?

2. does anyone feel the different with the air intake?

3. how much HP is does it offers anyway? 15 or less?
Old Feb 28, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by joew
1. what is a low end back power?

2. does anyone feel the different with the air intake?

3. how much HP is does it offers anyway? 15 or less?
1. a cone or pop charger will cause a little low end power loss. the car won't feel as strong under 3K rpm's or so. The mid-pipe "seems" to restore a little bit of that loss. It is really all just specualtive unless someone does a dyno comparison.

2. Yes. With a hyrid of pop charger there is a noticeable power gain in the upper rpm's.

3. Depending on which set up you go with, anywhere from 3hp-10hp at the most. No, not 15hp
Old Mar 1, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD


1. a cone or pop charger will cause a little low end power loss. the car won't feel as strong under 3K rpm's or so. The mid-pipe "seems" to restore a little bit of that loss. It is really all just specualtive unless someone does a dyno comparison.

2. Yes. With a hyrid of pop charger there is a noticeable power gain in the upper rpm's.

3. Depending on which set up you go with, anywhere from 3hp-10hp at the most. No, not 15hp
How about those intakes from eBay? If you change the filter, won't those give you about the same gains?
Old Mar 1, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by JC96max


How about those intakes from eBay? If you change the filter, won't those give you about the same gains?
Don't know which one's your refering to. As far as filters I believe it's a must to have some sort of velocity stack incoporated into the filter.
Old Mar 1, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD


Don't know which one's your refering to. As far as filters I believe it's a must to have some sort of velocity stack incoporated into the filter.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33621
It's that one. I'm wondering if that will make any difference from the injen or pri intakes.
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