OK, I've read through old posts and I've heard different opinions from people I know, but does anyone know if a stock 5spd 4th gen is faster than a stock 5spd 5th gen? Most have (surprisingly) said that the 4th gen is faster, mainly because of its amazing gear ratios. This is all hearsay though so I wanted to come here and see if anyone could verify it. Can anyone help answer this question for me? And if the 4th gen is faster, why?

 

4th gen is faster than 2k-2k1 but not the 2k2+, the reason being, power to weight ratio.

 

Yes the 4th gen 5 speeds are slighty faster than the 5th gen 5 speeds, but the 2002-2003 6 speeds are the fastest.

95-96 5 speed max does the 1/4 in a 15.2
97-99 5 speed max does the 1/4 mile in a 15.5
2000-2001 5 speed max does the 1/4 mile in a 15.6
2002-2003 6 speed max does the 1/4 mile in a 14.7

I know that the 4th gen times are correct but i am not 100% sure on the 2000-2001 times. And also i think that Nealoc ran a 14.7 or a 14.8 in his stock 96 GXE, which is the best time i have ever seen for a stock 4th gen. You can check around the 1/4th mile board to get an idea of what people are running.

Check out this site...
http://www.car-stats.com/stats/default.aspx

 

Go with your feeling and pocket money, see what you like and get that car. IF i had the money for 2003 SE. i would get that car. but i settle with the 99 maxima GLE and got good deal on it. good luck to you.

 

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4th Gen's are slightly faster overall than 3.0 5th Gen's due to...

a) 200 lb less curb weight
b) approx 250lb less unsprung weight (less wheel/tire mass)

But this assumes the 5th Gen had the heavy 17" rims. The early SE's or GXE models that had 16" rims, or GXE's with the 15" steelies have the same or LESS wheel/tire mass than the 4th Gen's and then they're only dealing with the extra weight. This can tip the scale in favor of a 5th Gen if it doesn't have the big rims.

So in summary...

5th Gen w/17" rims: slower than 4th Gen
5th Gen w/16" rims or 15" steelies: dead even or maybe even faster.

 

 

Listen for a second, How much more HP does the 5th Maxima have then the 4th gen, 55. If you add 10-20 hp to the 4th gen maxima you would smoke a 5th gen soo bad its not even funny, The 4th gen is just a way better car, If they raced stock both automagic the 5th gen would only beat it by half a car length, With the 10-20 hp added and put 2 people extra in the 4th gen to make the weight equal to the 5th gen the 4th gen will still win. The Gear Ratios also is a Contributor to this, Remember in real life HP does not matter Performance matters, I know some people will doubt me and call me an idiot but they are dumb, ignorant and stubborn, the technology that went in our engine is dope!!!!

 

What ARE you talking about?

The only Maxima to have 55 more hp than a 4th gen is a 2002 and 2003. It was actually rated at 65 more, but who knows what it really has. The other 5th gens supposedly had 32 more, which is also debatable.

4th gen vs. 2000 and 2001? Pretty much a driver's race, assuming stock cars. Basically you've got 200 extra pounds in the 5th gen, but also a MEVI and variable capacity muffler.

4th gen vs. 2002 or 2003? Take those two people, put them in the new Max, give yourself your "10-20 more hp", and you'll still lose. They run nearly a full second faster in the quarter mile than ANY stock 4th gen.

Man, I wish people had a clue around here.

And "Mag racing" is not bad. It is certainly better and more reliable than..."in real life HP does not matter Performance matters, I know some people will doubt me and call me an idiot but they are dumb, ignorant and stubborn, the technology that went in our engine is dope!!!!"

 

Haha, a second faster, An auto 2k3 runs around 14.9-15.2 a 4th gen auto should run around 15.3-15.6 depnding if it has LSD or not, IS THAT A SECOND, do you know how to add, all a 4th gen Auto Maxima needs to run 14's is 10 hp, Who has a clue now, just because you dont know how to drive, waisted all your money puting all those parts on and still cant run under 14.5

 

NO 4th gen auto will run 15.3 stock. Maybe 15.5 on the right track. And a 2K3 auto will run high 14's all day. And catch what I said..."NEARLY" a second. I don't even need to bother with your other comment...the other folks here know you're wrong. Just like your other thread...take your stupidity and leave.

Who am I to talk, though...the guy claims he beat a Z28 in his '99 GLE automatic with no mods...oh well. That's because he's got PERFORMANCE, which is obviously foreign to those 305-hp Z28 fanboys. Oh yeah, and the technology that went into his engine is dope. That must've been the difference.

I think I'm going to go "waist" some more money on mods. Shedding a half-second off my quarter mile time just hasn't been worth it. It certainly isn't enough to beat this guy and his dope engine with performance.

 

No 4th gen will run 15.3 stock, AHAH go read around and you will see that a 96 5spd ran 14.6

 

Can you not even READ? I said automatic. I don't doubt that a few 5-speeds can crack high 14's. But I have yet to see a 14.6 out of a STOCK 4th gen.

 

dude, just stop. you're not adding to the conversion, and you're sounding like an uninformed fanboy.

theLoon

 

Best 4th Gen manual time stock: 14.7
Best 5th Gen 3.0 manual time stock: 14.8 (might have been a 14.7 also, but not sure)
Best 5th Gen 3.5 manual time stock: 14.2

Best 4th Gen auto time stock: 15.6
Best 5th Gen 3.0 auto time stock: 15.5
Best 5th Gen 3.5 auto time stock: 14.6

Note that TYPICAL times are about a HALF second SLOWER than the times here. The people that can get these times really know how to drive the crap out of their cars.

 

"SOUNDING LIKE" an uninformed fanboy? He's not sounding like, he's not even like...he IS.

Steve, thanks for supporting my claims. Got anything to say now, uninformed fanboy?

 

your 4th gen times are wrong
95-96 is 0.3 seconds faster than 97-99? yeah ok buddy

that would explain the fastest stock 4th gen being a 97 right?

4th gen is more like 15.0 for 5spd

i got a 15.084 with a 2.4 60' and only a couple months of driving experience...

 

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theLoon

 

Yeah, I laughed at that .3 second difference between 95-96 and 97-99 too!! lol

I mean hell, my first time at the track with my stock 98 I ran a 14.9 & 92mph.

.3 a second is couple car lengths....

 

bump, so people know what the I beat a Viper thread is all about.