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03-24-2003, 02:30 PM

kerzhulzad

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Tokico Premium Performance Shocks

Anyone has any experience on these shocks? Is there a big difference compared to the KYB AGX shocks other than that the KYBs are adjustable? Thanks.

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03-24-2003, 08:36 PM

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There is a huge difference. The Tokicos are not good for anything but OEM replacement.

they are NOT adequate for use with lowering springs.

03-24-2003, 09:56 PM

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I think they would make a good companion to H&R springs. These struts should be much smoother than the AGXs.

03-25-2003, 03:43 AM

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are you talking about the illuminas?

03-25-2003, 04:21 AM

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are you talking about the illuminas?

"Premuim Performance" is Tokico's name for the blues.

03-25-2003, 04:35 AM

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I ran Tokico's w/H&Rs and they rode like crap...there was a lot of unecessary shaking/vibrating. Since then I have switched to KYB AGXs and the difference is amazing. Car rides great and I have no complaints...Don't waste your money on Tokico's...they are crap

03-25-2003, 04:36 AM

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How do AGX's compare with Koni Adjustables? I know the price is a big difference, but are they worth it? I want to run GC Coilovers with Koni's or AGX's.

03-25-2003, 04:39 AM

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How do AGX's compare with Koni Adjustables? I know the price is a big difference, but are they worth it? I want to run GC Coilovers with Koni's or AGX's.

IMO, the Konis are not worth it.

The AGX are a direct bolt in, front & rear and they are easy to adjust.

For Konis, you must disassemble the OEM front strut and fit the Koni insert into it. The rears bolt in like OEM, but they must be removed for any adjustments to be made. Both of these factors make Konis more trouble than they are worth.

03-25-2003, 04:46 AM

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Hey Juki, since your in VA, I can meet up w/you if you want and you can drive my car and see what the AGXs feel like...let me know if this is something you want to do...

03-25-2003, 04:57 AM

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I had Tokico Blues, and they...blew. Well they were not very stiff, and the rear passenger-side blew out once I started autocrossing.

They are basically like the GR2's, but IMO not as durable, and not good with lowering springs because the dampening isn't sufficient to support a higher spring rate.

03-25-2003, 08:06 AM

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"Premuim Performance" is Tokico's name for the blues.

how ironic

03-25-2003, 08:15 AM

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I have Eibachs and Tokicos and as soon as I get the chance, I'm switching over to AGXs.

03-25-2003, 08:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Lime
I had Tokico Blues, and they...blew. Well they were not very stiff, and the rear passenger-side blew out once I started autocrossing.

They are basically like the GR2's, but IMO not as durable, and not good with lowering springs because the dampening isn't sufficient to support a higher spring rate.

what kind of springs did you have them with?

I have heard that the front tokico struts are good... but the rears aren't stiff enough. Thats why I ordered Tokico in front and GR2's in back.... I am getting them put on in the next week or 2.... ill keep you guys posted.

03-25-2003, 08:27 AM

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My tokicos blues have been paired with Eibachs for over 2yrs and they are still in good condition. No real complaints here.

03-25-2003, 09:53 AM

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My tokicos blues have been paired with Eibachs for over 2yrs and they are still in good condition. No real complaints here.

Have you driven a car with Eibach/AGX? You may not want to because you will hate your Toks after that...

03-25-2003, 10:05 AM

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I'm running Sprint on stock struts. I know that it's not the greatest thing to do but. How much handling will I improve by changing to AGX struts??? Any kind of comparison???

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03-25-2003, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by mzmtg

Have you driven a car with Eibach/AGX? You may not want to because you will hate your Toks after that...

I probably shouldn't because my wallet will end up $350 lighter

I hope people did not think I was saying tok Blue's are superior to AGX, Illuminas, or even GR2's. But they are still going strong for me.

03-25-2003, 10:10 AM

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I never driven one with Eibach and AGXs. Besides my stick 97 SE has 120K miles on the original shocks so I'm guessing that anything will be an improvement. I'm also not looking to wring out every last bit of handling from the car but just to a bit of improvement over what I have without having a kidney jarring ride.

03-25-2003, 11:47 AM

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what kind of springs did you have them with?

H&R springs.

03-25-2003, 11:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by mzmtg

Have you driven a car with Eibach/AGX? You may not want to because you will hate your Toks after that...

in terms of what? ride quality or handling? i would trade handling abilities for ride quality any day, but that's just me. i dont AutoX or anything like that, and the max is my daily driver, so ride quality was a huge deal for me. I have the maxspeed/gr2 combo on my 96 and it is stiff for my taste.

03-25-2003, 01:09 PM

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Kind of beside the point, but if anyone DOES want the Blue Tokicos I have a set that were never installed on my car. I changed my mind and decided to go with the AGX's instead (getting installed next week baby!).